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Just got back from the movie! It was good.
bye! :D
laracroft8290
24-07-03, 03:30
that...was....cruel... http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/bash.gif
max_payne_99
24-07-03, 03:32
Originally posted by laracroft8290:
that...was....cruel... http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/bash.gif I think she knew that... http://community.the-underdogs.org/smiley/angry/stern.gif
Anti-Polar Bear
24-07-03, 03:34
Originally posted by Trinity34:
It was good. That's all I needed to hear. ;)
Maybe not so cruel.Trinity didn't really like the first film,so if she says this one is good,that's saying a lot! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif
[ 24. July 2003, 04:38: Message edited by: Idgie ]
laracroft8290
24-07-03, 03:43
Originally posted by Deano:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by laracroft8290:
that...was....cruel... http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/bash.gif I think she knew that... http://community.the-underdogs.org/smiley/angry/stern.gif</font>[/QUOTE]http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif
laracroft8290
24-07-03, 03:45
Originally posted by Idgie:
Maybe not so cruel.Trinity didn't really like the first film,so if she says this one is good,that's saying a lot! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif Good point ;)
hehe.
I did like this one but there is a lot to say about it and I am too tired to type everything. This film is a lot different than the first in that it is more violent plus it deals more with Lara's character. I don't know if I totally agree with how violent she is made out to be. It is one area of Lara's life I never really thought about or maybe didn't want to think about..... Lara kills people.
larasfrend
24-07-03, 05:34
Originally posted by Trinity34:
hehe.
I did like this one but there is a lot to say about it and I am too tired to type everything. This film is a lot different than the first in that it is more violent plus it deals more with Lara's character. I don't know if I totally agree with how violent she is made out to be. It is one area of Lara's life I never really thought about or maybe didn't want to think about..... Lara kills people.ever played tr2? :D http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif
Lara kills lots of people.....mostly bad of course ;)
Oh c'mon guys!! Lara is a VERY violent character! That's why she totes grenade launchers, Desert Eagle 50 caliber pistols, MP-5's, M-16's, .44 Magnums, assault shotgun, rocket launchers. Shall I go on? That's why at the end of every level you are told how many kills you have and how much ammo you expended!
She deals with some extremely malevolent characters and thus she must meet violence with violence! They are hellbent on KILLING her!
I am happy to hear that Lara (om my gosh!) KILLS people! The people - and animals, for that matter, that she kills must die. If not, then our heroine would die at their hands, or teeth and claws as the case may be.
Oh c'mon guys!! Lara is a VERY violent character! That's why she totes grenade launchers, Desert Eagle 50 caliber pistols, MP-5's, M-16's, .44 Magnums, assault shotgun, rocket launchers. Shall I go on? That's why at the end of every level you are told how many kills you have and how much ammo you expended!
She deals with some extremely malevolent characters and thus she must meet violence with violence! They are hellbent on KILLING her!
I am happy to hear that Lara (om my gosh!) KILLS people! The people - and animals, for that matter, that she kills must die. If not, then our heroine would die at their hands, or teeth and claws as the case may be.
You guys said you wanted my review please don't say I'm stupid for thinking that. YOU haven't even seen the movie yet! :mad:
I agree with Trin....back off!
Sometimes y'all get a little too serious about this....get a grip!
laracroft8290
24-07-03, 15:17
I still want your review... http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/jumper.gif
ok, I'll go write it now. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/jumper.gif
laracroft8290
24-07-03, 15:27
YEA!!!
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If you are referring to me, I didn't say anything about anybody being stupid. I was just trying to point out that Lara has always been a very violent character, that's all.
Ok here it is....
SPOILERS AHEAD ....... READ AT OWN RISK
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Are you ready to play?
For those of you that don't know, I had entered an online contest to win tickets to the Cincinnati premiere of The Cradle of Life and I WON! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif So three of my coworkers went with me last night to see it.
I think everyone knows the locations Lara visits and the main characters are:
Lara Croft....................big surprise
Terry Sheridan............ex-British marine who abandoned hismen and country. He didn't want to live by other people's rules anymore.
Bryce & Hillary........friends of Lara
Reiss.............................bad guy. He is a nobel prize winner scientist that has turned bad. Wants Pandora's Box so he can release a plague on the earth where only he has the antidote to save the people who can afford to buy it. Sound like Mission Impossible 2? http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif
Chen Lo .....................bad guy that recovers the orb from Luna Temple and want to sell to Reiss.
A note before I go on..... this movie is more about Lara stopping the bad guys than it is about tomb raiding. The Luna Temple was the closest thing to tomb raiding in the whole movie. There really wasn't any mystery to the temple at all; no secret chambers or treasures to find, no puzzle solving.
First is the wedding scene in Greece where the earthquake hits. By the way, Lara is not attending the wedding. I think that was reported in the beginning but was not in the movie. The first shot you see of Lara is her coming toward a boat on a jetski. She certainly does have friends all over the place! They dive to find the Luna Temple. Bad guys show up.
Next is Croft Manor.Agents of the Queen show up. Inform Lara of Chen Lo who wants to sell the orb to Reiss. NOTE: Listen carefully to what Lara says about nature always being in balance. ;) Its a reocurring theme through out the movie. Lara says she needs Terry Sheridan to help find the Shay Ling. You find out that Lara and Terry have hd a relationship in the past and you find out more during the movie. They find the Cheng Lo but the orb is already on the way to be handed over to Reiss in Shanghai. There is a fight, Lara does not get the orb but knows its going to Hong Kong. Fight at Reiss' lab. Lara gets the orb, finds a family's fishing boat and connects to their cable TV. Imagine that! hehe. She scans the orb and sends the pictures to Bryce.
MAJOR SPOILER......
The dots on the orb are musical notes and when played activates the the orb to show where the Cradle of Life is located. This is a pretty cool scene, really liked it. As it turns out Reiss was at Croft Manor in Bryce's trailer and saw the whole thing. Lara does not find this out until Reiss arrives in Africa. She realizes the only way to get away from Reiss is to lead them throuh the Petrified Forest and maybe the Shadow Guardians will get them.
This ends my synopsis of the plot, I am not going to tell what happens at the end on the forum. If you want to know, please send me a PM.
Things I liked about the movie:
1. The addition of Terry Sheridan. By bringing him into the movie it gives more insight into Lara's charater and what is important to her. I wish I could go into more details but don't want to spoil things.
2. Action scenes flowed really well. Great locations!
3. Like the storyline.
4. Reiss was a very good bad guy. Felt like he wouldn't hesitate to do anything to get what he wants.
5. The theme of the movie: there is always a balance between good and evil. Wish I could say more.
6. Favorite scenes: I really liked the fight at the lab, petrified forest, Luna Temple.
Things I did not like:
1. The movie does not have very much tomb raiding; no finding secret chambers or puzzle solving. Reminded me to much of the Mission Impossible 2 movie. I agree that Lara has certain "spy" skills but she is supposed to be a tomb raider. I guess I like ancient tombs better than urban cities.
2. Kind of violent....SPOILER..... there is one scene where she is fighting Chen Lo and he is on the ground with her pointing the gun at him. She says she will spare his life if he tells her where the orb is... he tells and she starts to leave and he notices a gun on the ground and shoots at Lara. Misses her but she turns around and throws a knife at Chen Lo and stabs him in the chest killing him. This I did not like at all. Since he missed Lara she could have easily run and got out of there just fine but she decides to kill him instead. This part shows Lara as a cold blooded killer which I do not agree with. This kind of attitude of Lara is seen throughout the movie... where she goes in to situations with hard line attitude.....determined and kind of revengeful. Lara's character and Reiss' character are very much alike in this reguard.
3. The attraction between Lara and Terry could have been brought out a little bit more. Didn't really know if Lara liked him at all, but this might have been what the writer wanted. I guess you could say there wasn't enough balance between the violent side of Lara and the vulnerable side of Lara. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif
Well that's it. If anyone wnats to know more, send me a PM.
Great review Trin, thanks http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif
wow great review http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif cheers! makes me wanna go and see it, anybody any idea when it is showing in the UK?
TombRaiderSweetie
24-07-03, 22:03
For Trinity and anyone else who wants to understand details in relationships, and reasons for Lara's actions...I highly recommend you read the novelization...One more day until I get to see the movie :D
TombRaiderfreaky
24-07-03, 22:16
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Trinity, Good review, but Lara kills Chen Lo because he was the one who killed Gus and the other guy in the Luna Temple at the beginning. I read the novel and they were childhood friends of her. She really loved them alot and vowed for revenge against Chen Lo. that's why she kills him. Hope this clears anything up, because i think this proves that Lara isn't cold blooded. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif
TombRaiderfreaky - wait until you see the movie and see what you think. One doesn't know how upset Lara is unless he/she reads the book ahead of time. In the movie its hard to tell.
TombRaiderfreaky
24-07-03, 22:46
I suppose you are right, did they clear that up in the movie, that Lara and those two guys are really close friends, or they don't mention it at all? http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif
Good review,Trin and I'm glad you enjoyed the movie! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif You raise some very interesting points there.I think that morality in TR would be a good topic to start over here.
Some of the others made references to the novel,and I'll reiterate that.Lara does talk more about revenge in the book,in fact,she's quite consumed with the notion of it.However,I don't agree with calling her bloodthirsty because I think it does a disservice to her character.In the scene with Chen-Lo,it sounds like a clear case of self-defense and that's hardly being bloodthirsty,now is it?
Going back to the revenge motif,I got the impression that Lara blamed herself as much as she did Chen Lo for her friend's deaths.I think she blamed herself for being unable to protect them and much of her anger at her enemies was really anger at herself.Lara is extremely protective over people that she loves(again,we see this with Hilary and Bryce later on in the novel),but even she has limits.
[ 25. July 2003, 00:15: Message edited by: Idgie ]
Hi Idgie. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/wave.gif
It was hard writing the review because I would love to discuss Lara and her relationship with Terry. I will need to read the book now to see how she really feels about him. Couldn't quite tell from the movie.
The end was a shocker too. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/yikes.gif
TombRaiderfreaky
24-07-03, 23:11
Trinity, the book is really good, i found it fantastic!! and i'm not just saying this as a tomb raider fan, since i am an avid novel reader. It will keep you hooked! :D
Angie Girl
25-07-03, 03:32
Where can you get the book and exactally what is it called?
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