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tlr online
16-06-06, 16:03
Eidos Interactive, one of the world’s leading publishers and developers of entertainment software, confirms today that they are developing a special ‘10th Anniversary Edition’ of Tomb Raider.
The new game is being developed by Crystal Dynamics, who recently launched Lara Croft Tomb Raider: Legend on Xbox 360, PS2, Xbox, PC and PSP, with versions on Nintendo DS, GBA and GameCube later in 2006.
“Our ‘10th Anniversary Edition’ of Tomb Raider, is a one-off title to celebrate both Lara and Tomb Raider, it will appeal not only to the loyal fans of the Tomb Raider series but will also attract a totally new audience.” Said Larry Sparks, Head of Brands Management at Eidos.
Tomb Raider™ originally launched in 1996 and is still one of the best selling videogame franchises of all time, with over 30 million copies sold.
The special ‘10th Anniversary Edition’ of Tomb Raider will be available on PlayStation 2, PSP and PC.
This is an official Eidos press release. More information on www.tombraiderchronicles.com shortly.
Thank you for posting.
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Now it all ends! YAYYYYY!
I'm guessing work hasn't JUST started on this, so basically eidos had core making an aniversary edition at the same time as crystal? only to kick core in the ass. That sucks. I can see the classic beign completely ruined...
WhosaidAODwasbad
16-06-06, 16:06
Is it just TR 1 or is it both TR1 and 2 like a lot of the rumors said!?
Lara Lover
16-06-06, 16:06
:eek:
OMG! This has made my day! :D
fondantcookie
16-06-06, 16:06
YEEEEEEESSSSS !!!!!!!!!! CONFIRMATION !!!!
interstellardave
16-06-06, 16:07
Thanks TLR!
I pray CD does a damn good job, or else this forum will become unbearable!
Thank god its being made. Too bad its crystal instead of core but at least we know for certain the remake is being made now. Crystal please dont screw this up. If u make this game right you've regained my faith in you.
Woo-Hoo PS2
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OMFG!!!!111
Sorry for my outspurt of poor grammar and text-speak, but I'm so glad!
So, what does this mean for the Core Design remake that was developed? Are Crystal Dynamics using their efforts, or starting from scratch?!
I'm also glad it's coming out on PS2 and PC, as I'd hate to have to buy a PSP for TR (though I probably would!)...
hate to have to buy a PSP for TR (though I probably would!)...
same here :p
WhosaidAODwasbad
16-06-06, 16:09
So can you post the Toby Gard Interview soon now or you still have to wait TLR!?:)
Id this gonna be a remakes of TR1 and TR2? I sure hope so. :)
Good news :tmb:
Now let's hope this is not just a "leaked internal press release draft". ;)
WhosaidAODwasbad
16-06-06, 16:11
OMFG!!!!111
Sorry for my outspurt of poor grammar and text-speak, but I'm so glad!
So, what does this mean for the Core Design remake that was developed? Are Crystal Dynamics using their efforts, or starting from scratch?!
I'm also glad it's coming out on PS2 and PC, as I'd hate to have to buy a PSP for TR (though I probably would!)...
They probably have been working on it as long as Core Designs was on theres but I can see them using Cores Material at least as a guide or just use exactly what they had sometimes but make it better and more CD like!
I'd rather they concentrate on the original Tomb Raider (although TR2 is great, also), rather than having too much on their plate.
I'd rather they concentrate on the original Tomb Raider (although TR2 is great, also), rather than having too much on their plate.
I'de like TR3 and TR4 remakes as well. The first 4 games were amazing, but after playing Legend the controls of the classics suck big time.
I can see it know....
DISCOVER TOMB RAIDER 1, ALL OVER AGAIN!
THIS TIME WITH:
-SPINNING TARGETS, YAY!!
-ZIP AND ALLISTER TO HELP GUIDE YOUR WAY THROUGH LEVELS :)
-LEVELS HAVE BEEN MADE INTO STRAIGHT LINES TO MAKE IT EASIER!!
-ALL LEVELS NOW HAVE PRESSURE POINTS TO OPEN THE DOORS
Omg On Ps2?!?!?!? Omggg Someone Hug Me! Someone Hold Me! I Gotta Be Dreaming!!!....!!!
fondantcookie
16-06-06, 16:15
Maybe they should release TR1 edition this november....and TR2 anniversary next november... ? Hehe
The thought of the temple of Xian and The Deck in PS2 Graphics just makes me want to SMIIIILLLLEEEE
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And im a little concerned about "our version will attract a new fan base"..... that too me sounds like theyll be changing stuff.. (please please please please please PLEASE dont add ZIP etc....)
But i guess only time wil tell...
...woo...SO excited
illuminati30
16-06-06, 16:15
Excellent news!
But what about next gen consoles :( Ten years have past, and all we have is 1 step up from PSX :(
Can we have a high resolution trailer now? :D :D :D
Omg On Ps2?!?!?!? Omggg Someone Hug Me! Someone Hold Me! I Gotta Be Dreaming!!!....!!!
There ya go :hug: lol.
Sorry guys, i'm just so happy. I really needed a good news.
I can see it know....
DISCOVER TOMB RAIDER 1, ALL OVER AGAIN!
THIS TIME WITH:
-SPINNING TARGETS, YAY!!
-ZIP AND ALLISTER TO HELP GUIDE YOUR WAY THROUGH LEVELS :)
-LEVELS HAVE BEEN MADE INTO STRAIGHT LINES TO MAKE IT EASIER!!
-ALL LEVELS NOW HAVE PRESSURE POINTS TO OPEN THE DOORS
Eww.. God I hope not!
I can see it know....
DISCOVER TOMB RAIDER 1, ALL OVER AGAIN!
THIS TIME WITH:
-SPINNING TARGETS, YAY!!
-ZIP AND ALLISTER TO HELP GUIDE YOUR WAY THROUGH LEVELS :)
-LEVELS HAVE BEEN MADE INTO STRAIGHT LINES TO MAKE IT EASIER!!
-ALL LEVELS NOW HAVE PRESSURE POINTS TO OPEN THE DOORS
I don't know if I like the headset in the classics but, the whole no grid based system...:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
OMFG PC YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!!!! :yah: :yah: http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/huepfen/jumping-smiley-011.gif http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/sehrgrosse/large-smiley-002.gif http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/aktion/action-smiley-078.gif
I doubt Crystal Dynamics would be stupid enough to change things so drastically (including grapple, Zip etc...), but I hope that comment on new fans just refers to people who never played the original back in '96.
I hope that Lara wil move like she did in Legend and not like she did in the Trailer posted before...She ran like she did in old times...and nowadays doesn't feel good.
illuminati30
16-06-06, 16:17
Is it just TR 1 or is it both TR1 and 2 like a lot of the rumors said!?
Both, time permitting i guess.
Both, time permitting i guess.
I hope so, following by TR3 and TR4 remakes. I can just imagine TR4 on PS2:D or better PS3:D:D:D:D:D Egyptian environments:D
OMG! I hope they make Lara's Mansion like the classic one! Oh, and Home Sweet Home level at the end of TR2, I hope NAtla looks good..!!!
illuminati30
16-06-06, 16:21
A question! Would we have this information if the Core video was not leaked. How did that happen? How was it leaked?
OMG! I hope they make Lara's Mansion like the classic one! Oh, and Home Sweet Home level at the end of TR2, I hope NAtla looks good..!!!
I hope so too. Although I think that those are a given.
illuminati30
16-06-06, 16:21
Can we see the Toby Gard interview now tlr? :tea:
Psychopompador
16-06-06, 16:23
thanks for the info TLR, best news I've heard in a while. (not to mentione some of the only 'actual' news)
MellowYellow
16-06-06, 16:23
Can we have a high resolution trailer now? :D :D :D
You can have a high resolution trailer of their version if you ask nicely (not seen it myself). But our version is dead and I dont think we can release anything.
Sorry.
WhosaidAODwasbad
16-06-06, 16:24
Excellent news!
But what about next gen consoles :( Ten years have past, and all we have is 1 step up from PSX :(
Oh don't be sad! PS2 is a big step from PS1 I mean go to wikipedia and they have the evolution. She changed a ton from TR3 to TR5 and looked 5 times better. Now that they've done legend it should look aleast a little bit better they way she looks, and levels should look 100's of times better! Especially since Crystal does a much better side on the technical and graphical side of the game! Yeah, it won't be a PS3 game right now, but it could be later possibly! Plus they are say that PS2 games should look even more smoother and the shaders should make alot of PS2 games look amazing on the PS3 because of its power especially since Xbox and 360 are not as much difference between the two!
You can have a high resolution trailer of their version if you ask nicely (not seen it myself). But our version is dead and I dont think we can release anything.
Sorry.
Not even screenshots? I can give you my email... :D
WhosaidAODwasbad
16-06-06, 16:26
I hope so, following by TR3 and TR4 remakes. I can just imagine TR4 on PS2:D or better PS3:D:D:D:D:D Egyptian environments:D
Both those also derserve remakes some time, but aleast get TR2 a remake it deserves it ! And TR 4 does because just how big and amazing it is. and TR 3 because of the Cannibals! And dinosaurs yeah!
So, can you comment on if there was any collaberation between you two? Are Crystal Dynamics using any of your material at all?
YAY!! for ps2 and pc! :yah: :yah: I'm so happy! let's just hope that they include the original stuff plus some extra stuf. bonus levels. cutscenes .. and not zip...
Night Crawler
16-06-06, 16:28
I feel bad for Core's efforts, the way thier project was dumped in favour of this, but at the same time I'm excited to see what Crystal have done.
I have a feeling the levels will be much much shorter than the originals, I don't know why. I just don't think Crystal are dedicated enough to put in all that effort.
You can imagine all the "The Core Design version looked so much better!" threads that will spring up when the first few screenshots are released. Especially if Crystal leave out things like the Dino's fighting with each other etc.
I hope Natla looks good, I wonder if they'll have the same Voice Actor for Natla, she was awesome!
Both those also derserve remakes some time, but aleast get TR2 a remake it deserves it ! And TR 4 does because just how big and amazing it is. and TR 3 because of the Cannibals! And dinosaurs yeah!
Of course change the ending of TR4 cause started the whole AOD mess. :p
Thanks tlr .
I'm also gutted that Core's project has been brushed away, but there's something comforting in the fact that it's not going to be spread across the console market, solely for PS2 and Pc (as I'd hoped) and I see no fault on Psp either.
Any idea when it might be released? I mean the Legend engine ir ready to use. It shouldn't take as long as Legend did. I hope... Waiting is not my forte :p
MonkeyCrypt
16-06-06, 16:31
I am happy to see that they are indeed making a remake of the original, but why are they not releasing it on Xbox, i have been a loyal fan of the series playing all on both the PC and PS. Unfortunately i am an Xbox owner now and legen was great and all, but why are they only releasing if for those systems, do you think maybe it will come to Xbox and Nintendo systems later as they are doing with Legend, or is it time for me to invest in a PS2 :(. Damn
btw: I am not a new member, i have been around for a long while, just never posted anything
WhosaidAODwasbad
16-06-06, 16:32
Beable to get Screen Shots of Crystals Version yet? They usually always have shots when they annouce a new game!
Tomb Raider Jay
16-06-06, 16:32
Thanks for posting TLR! :D
This has been a very good day for TR fans :jmp:
I feel bad for Core too and I would have bought the re-make if they had made it but alas it's just not happened that way :(
Aww it's not on the Xbox or the 360 oh well I'll have to dust off my old Ps2, hope it still works : )
I am happy to see that they are indeed making a remake of the original, but why are they not releasing it on Xbox, i have been a loyal fan of the series playing all on both the PC and PS. Unfortunately i am an Xbox owner now and legen was great and all, but why are they only releasing if for those systems, do you think maybe it will come to Xbox and Nintendo systems later as they are doing with Legend, or is it time for me to invest in a PS2 :(. Damn
btw: I am not a new member, i have been around for a long while, just never posted anything
can't you get it for PC? Just in case.
Curious. Did i miss seeing anything in a "remake" form? lol.
I just hope it won't be a rerelease with nothing updated.
interstellardave
16-06-06, 16:36
I feel bad for Core's efforts, the way thier project was dumped in favour of this, but at the same time I'm excited to see what Crystal have done.
I have a feeling the levels will be much much shorter than the originals, I don't know why. I just don't think Crystal are dedicated enough to put in all that effort.
You can imagine all the "The Core Design version looked so much better!" threads that will spring up when the first few screenshots are released. Especially if Crystal leave out things like the Dino's fighting with each other etc.
Nah, a remake is just that... everything should be there. If anything they'll add some stuff to surprise the old fans, like was done was Resident Evil Remake. ;)
Is it just TR1 or is it TR1 and TR2?
WhosaidAODwasbad
16-06-06, 16:37
Playstation is what help jump started Tomb Raider so its only fitting that they get the game first or at all! maybe an xbox and Gamecube game in the future, they did that with legend!
Also if it TR 2 also being remade, ahh, imagine legend lara in a wet suit ah paradise!
Thanks TLR!
I pray CD does a damn good job, or else this forum will become unbearable!
Amen to that Dave.
fondantcookie
16-06-06, 16:38
I think its great that its only PC PS2 and PSP !!!!
Its homage back to the original..
Although it was originally released on Sega Saturn...it was really PS1 that got the ball rolling and exploded lara to fame...
Plus she has been a sony (and PC) only girl for many years...
AND...sticking to these three platforms will cut down development time and hopefully get it out for its november release date. Afterall, Legend going multi platform is one of the reasons why Legend was soo unfinished and short....
GREAT decision Eidos :D
Amen to that Dave.
lol thevman will rally a group of users to storm Eidos.
UNDERTAKER
16-06-06, 16:41
Omfg!!!!!!!!!
Yahoo!!!!!!!!
Great news. Now the speculation can end and the fears and anticipation begin. If CD is smart they will adhere very closely to the original story and level design and focus on upgrading the controls and graphics. Then if the remake is well received (sells well, is not crtically panned, and pleases most of the fans ((we know already that they are not going to please everyone))) then we potentially anticipate even more remakes.
It will be released this year?:)
AND...sticking to these three platforms will cut down development time and hopefully get it out for its november release date.
Yeah, hopefully this will contribute to the quality of the game.
I won't lie - I'm not about to go all 'Ohhh thank you Eidos! Thank you!" over this news.
I am still cross at them for taking it from Core, I just don't know whether CD Tr1 remake is better or worse than no remake at all.
Time will tell.
UNDERTAKER
16-06-06, 16:43
Time to dust off my PS2!
Yeah, hopefully this will contribute to the quality of the game.
I won't lie - I'm not about to go all 'Ohhh thank you Eidos! Thank you!" over this news.
I am still cross at them for taking it from Core, I just don't know whether CD Tr1 remake is better or worse than no remake at all.
Time will tell.
agreed.
the 12 year old boy in me is excited to play the game again. i'm just worried about the content.
AND...sticking to these three platforms will cut down development time and hopefully get it out for its november release date. Afterall, Legend going multi platform is one of the reasons why Legend was soo unfinished and short....
GREAT decision Eidos :D
I agree 100% November :D:D:D:D:D My birthday. The best gift ever. well second best actually. The best would be a car :tea:
UNDERTAKER
16-06-06, 16:45
Hopefully, CD will learn a thing or two when developing this remake. This is how you make a Tomb Raider game!!!
I just thought about the grapple. I really hope it is NOT in the remake. I didn't like it that much and it wasn't in the classic. I hope it's not there. Not sure how I feel about the headset in the remake though... :o
Maybe that's why Eidos want CD to make it. They want to give them experience of what a proper Tomb Raider game is?
Yahoo! For PC too!!! I'm so relieved it is not only for PSP. This is defenitely going onto the shelve with the others :)
But is it confirmed that Core was working on this? So far I could see on the trailer it was all Legend style, graphics and movement. Anyway anyone whoe played Soul Reaver knows that Dynamics is good at scenery. There will be no material cut as I'm sure there is no next gen thing going on so more room for a bigger game :)
So its not on the xbox. Guess that means I will ahve to buy a PS2 for Christmas
I just thought about the grapple. I really hope it is NOT in the remake. I didn't like it that much and it wasn't in the classic. I hope it's not there. Not sure how I feel about the headset in the remake though... :o
I don't want anything from legend in TR1, seriously. Graphics, yes: content, no.
Yahoo! For PC too!!! I'm so relieved it is not only for PSP. This is defenitely going onto the shelve with the others :)
But is it confirmed that Core was working on this? So far I could see on the trailer it was all Legend style, graphics and movement. Anyway anyone whoe played Soul Reaver knows that Dynamics is good at scenery. There will be no material cut as I'm sure there is no next gen thing going on so more room for a bigger game :)
The movement was definatley not Legend's. It was like the originals'. Lara's run was just yukky.
it will appeal not only to the loyal fans of the Tomb Raider series but will also attract a totally new audience
The action genre audience that was new to TR with legend by any chance?
I wonder if Lara's Home will contain a garden. I hope it does
UNDERTAKER
16-06-06, 16:50
This remake should have Legend's graphics, controls and mechanics but TR1's puzzles and level design.
We can't possibly return to the grid based system after playing TRL! No way! That's like returning to the stone age!
I don't want anything from legend in TR1, seriously. Graphics, yes: content, no.
Sound like a Legend hater hehe :p
But really. the grapple is just lame and unreal. The headset made it feel a bit
Easy
Zip wouldn't shut up
Lara talking while jumping, swinging, etc... Know what I mean?
Did that make sense?
Yes to binoculars and flares/pls though.
MonkeyCrypt
16-06-06, 16:51
can't you get it for PC? Just in case.
My PC wont be able to handle it i only have a laptop.
Tomb Raider Jay
16-06-06, 16:51
I don't want anything from legend in TR1, seriously. Graphics, yes: content, no.
Ditto to that quote! :p
Rivendell I think you need to change your sig now :D
I hope they do release it for the XBOX. Plz do CD :D
My PC wont be able to handle it i only have a laptop.
I see.
Well in that case I'd recomend PS2 instead of PSP. Graphics better and so are controls I think...
illuminati30
16-06-06, 16:53
Thanks for posting TLR! :D
This has been a very good day for TR fans :jmp:
I feel bad for Core too and I would have bought the re-make if they had made it but alas it's just not happened that way :(
Aww it's not on the Xbox or the 360 oh well I'll have to dust off my old Ps2, hope it still works : )
Bad isnt it! Start a next gen petetion!
I like them releasing it only for PS2/PSP and the PC, just like the original games. :D
Sony and PC Gurl.
I wonder if Lara's Home will contain a garden. I hope it does
I agree. I totally forgot about the mansion. They should make the mansion alot bigger than the original mansion. I think it should basicly be the same as tr2 or 3 mansion.
I agree. I totally forgot about the mansion. They should make the mansion alot bigger than the original mansion. I think it should basicly be the same as tr2 or 3 mansion.
I think they should because they can redeem themselves for the lack of outside in Legend. CD make big big Gardens :D:D:D:D:D:D
Release on as many platforms as you want as long as it's on PS2. And doesn't take for ever to release like Legend did, especially since it took about 5 hrs to beat :hea:
And pls no Grapple and No Headset.
Not entirly no Headset, but only in cut scenes. Let us focus during the game and no hints. we're not stupid, not to mention that we already played and beat this like a million time, which also tells us, add new and really tough puzzles :D
UNDERTAKER
16-06-06, 16:56
I hope they do release it for the XBOX. Plz do CD :D
I think the reason why Xbox or GC isn't seeing a version of this remake has to do with money, not nostalgia or loyalty.
They want to release this remake as fast as possible with maximum profit. Remakes don't usually return blockbuster sales.
Developing on Xbox 360 is too expensive for a remake like this.
Xbox and GameCube gaming is effectively dead now so...
Plus, PS2 and PSP have shared technology so porting the game between them is incredibly easy.
Release on as many platforms as you want as long as it's on PS2.
And pls no Grapple and No Headset.
Not entirly no Headset, but only in cut scenes. Let us focus during the game and no hints. we're not stupid, not to mention that we already played and beat this like a million time, which alos tells us, ass new and really tough puzzles :D
I disagree after playing the classics, I really want them to discard the headset. the atmosphere is simply ruined.
But I do agree release it on more platforms, Plz on the XBOX
illuminati30
16-06-06, 16:57
I think its great that its only PC PS2 and PSP !!!!
Its homage back to the original..
Although it was originally released on Sega Saturn...it was really PS1 that got the ball rolling and exploded lara to fame...
Plus she has been a sony (and PC) only girl for many years...
AND...sticking to these three platforms will cut down development time and hopefully get it out for its november release date. Afterall, Legend going multi platform is one of the reasons why Legend was soo unfinished and short....
GREAT decision Eidos :D
Perhaps it was this remake :D
interstellardave
16-06-06, 16:57
I think the reason why Xbox or GC isn't seeing a version of this remake has to do with money, not nostalgia or loyalty.
They want to release this remake as fast as possible with maximum profit. Remakes don't usually return blockbuster sales.
Developing on Xbox 360 is too expensive for a remake like this.
Xbox and GameCube gaming is effectively dead now so...
Plus, PS2 and PSP have shared technology so porting the game between them is incredibly easy.
I agree... this doesn't bother me at all. If it was PSP-only that would have bothered me!
Urgh...remake...I hoped this wouldnt happen. Id much prefer they worked on TR8....remakes are just lazy.
UNDERTAKER
16-06-06, 16:58
Lucky for PlayStation 3 owners.
If they pick up the PS2 version, it will be backwards compatible so they can play it on their PS3 in hi-defintion!
I disagree after playing the classics, I really want them to discard the headset. the atmosphere is simply ruined.
But I do agree release it on more platforms, Plz on the XBOX
Personally I think that the headset made Legend seem more real. But just was overused. Way overused. So if they want Zip and Alister to chat with Lara during a cut scene(like the one in Peru where Lara was reading that wall) but definatley not during the gameplay.
Psychopompador
16-06-06, 16:59
I hope they add the Gold levels that non-PC gamers never got to play.
I think cd have learnt their lesson from some of the negative feedback from fans over the headset. I have no doubt the headset wont be in it. They also shouldn't include the grapple.
I hope they add the Gold levels that non-PC gamers never got to play.
Well that's a good point, but they wern't apart of the Original so I don't really care for them.
That confirmation is the sweetest thing I've read/heard all week http://www.planetsmilies.com/smilies/happy/happy0064.gif
UNDERTAKER
16-06-06, 17:00
I agree... this doesn't bother me at all. If it was PSP-only that would have bothered me!
Same.
Does you PS2 still work? I've nto tried mine for several months. Hope it's still kicking!
Of course I wouldn't say no to a 360 version, I'm sure you'll agree!
marcocatena
16-06-06, 17:01
WOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
So core was makin a !0th Ani edition as well as CD?
Thats y they canceled it!
:D
I played Legend on the 360 but my understanding is that Legend on the PS2 looked really great and pushed the capabilities of that console to the max. That argues that the remake will also look good.
Anyone play legend on the PS2. How did it play and look?
Oh God!!!! I really hope the mansion isn't anything like the one from Legend.
That one just Blows, bring back the classic gym and gardens with assault course and race track. Insert some vehicles in TR1 as well.
Also, if a door is opened in the mension, when I reload it, I'd like to see it closed again.
In few words, just bring back the old mansion. Lara's real home. Just because the one from Legend was named Croft Manor, it didn't have the mansion feeling to me.
WhosaidAODwasbad
16-06-06, 17:02
I really doubt that there will be Zip or Alister or the grapple none of those are TR1. And even say there is a grapple they would have to make lots of puzzls and areas to put it to use!
I see a graphical update some new areas that don't mess with the original levels or story line! updated puzzles and new harder puzzles! Maybe the infultration of Natla Technologies, motorcycle ride in Egypt, and maybe even before the whole thing starts that you actually get to stomp out Bigfoot like the news tabloid shows at the beginng cutscene! They could do alot of things to make it a new and memorialbe experience the only things that could mess it you is alister zip and grapple(unless they make use of it, but only for new areas!)
Same.
Does you PS2 still work? I've nto tried mine for several months. Hope it's still kicking!
Of course I wouldn't say no to a 360 version, I'm sure you'll agree!
I haven't played my PS2 in months I just tried it and mine works. I've had it for about 4 years now.
The Bulky PS2 (Not the thin one) seems to last longer, my friend got the smaller one and it broke after a year.
I hope they add the Gold levels that non-PC gamers never got to play.
Me too. I never got the chance to play the Unfinished Business and Golden Mask levels :(
UNDERTAKER
16-06-06, 17:04
Can't wait to see Natla and the T-rex again!
Oh I'm so pumped up for this!
tombraiderluka
16-06-06, 17:04
Thanks for the info :yah:
Can't wait to see Natla and the T-rex again!
Oh I'm so pumped up for this!
Well you're not the only one :p as you can probably imagine :p
Way to go Eidos. I <3 you.
:tea::tea::tea::tea::tea::tea::tea:
I hope Natla looks good, I don't want them changing her too much. I really hope she has the same voice.
Psychopompador
16-06-06, 17:05
Oh God!!!! I really hope the mansion isn't anything like the one from Legend.
That one just Blows, bring back the classic gym and gardens with assault course and race track. Insert some vehicles in TR1 as well.
Also, if a door is opened in the mension, when I reload it, I'd like to see it closed again.
In few words, just bring back the old mansion. Lara's real home. Just because the one from Legend was named Croft Manor, it didn't have the mansion feeling to me.
never thought of that- i wonder if it will be the old mansion.
I'm looking forward to all the little niblets of info and screenshots (like the ones that trickled in over time for TRL) That was the best part of these forums for me- opening it up one morning and seeing a sticky from TLR with a new screenshot.
I hope Natla looks good, I don't want them changing her too much. I really hope she has the same voice.
I hope so too. I think they will only add more facial and body details like they did with Legend Lara. If you look closely, she still looks liek classic Lara.
interstellardave
16-06-06, 17:07
Same.
Does you PS2 still work? I've nto tried mine for several months. Hope it's still kicking!
Of course I wouldn't say no to a 360 version, I'm sure you'll agree!
I have some games that I still have to play on my PS2, like Shadow of the Colossus. I know It still works because whenever my friend Scott comes over we wear out Smackdown vrs Raw 2006! :D
I can just see it now.. "Seal it Larson!"
PirateRose
16-06-06, 17:09
New fan base! Heck yeah, the other day at work, these 10 year olds were talking about TRL like it was the best thing in the world. Oh, may I add they were girls too. Rememinded me of when I was 13 and playing TR3. ^.^
Remaking the first Tomb Raider I'm sure will bring lots of new fan base with the youngings who wouldn't play TR1 because of it being 10 years old and bad graphics. XD
New Graphics, New moves, More elaborated tombs, The same puzzles only more difficult, all that good stuff of the first one only updated and better.
They wouldn't dare add something like Zip and Alister, just as much as they wouldn't dare add Kurtis. If they do dare, we should storm CD and burn the building to the ground because then Tomb Raider will really be dead. It'll be like Classic TR fans verse New TR fans. AOD and TRL fans will have to unite temporarly, and there will be this huge war! XD
I played Legend on the 360 but my understanding is that Legend on the PS2 looked really great and pushed the capabilities of that console to the max. That argues that the remake will also look good.
Anyone play legend on the PS2. How did it play and look?
It looked far better on the 360 (I played the entire game through both versions), but the PS2 was exceptional. I have no doubts that the re-release will be stunning :D
Psychopompador
16-06-06, 17:10
I can just see it now.. "Seal it Larson!"
ahhh... mammories. oops- memories! hehe
I imagine to keep it "real"- they'll just use the old voices and install them in the newer game. there was never anything wrong with the voice acting.
never thought of that- i wonder if it will be the old mansion.
I'm looking forward to all the little niblets of info and screenshots (like the ones that trickled in over time for TRL) That was the best part of these forums for me- opening it up one morning and seeing a sticky from TLR with a new screenshot.
i'll try not to watch too much media though. I know it's a remake but the new graphics, the gamplay, the sound of the guns and all those other little things. + new puzzles I hope. I won't spoil it like I did with Legend.
I'm just looking forward to the info though, like Lara can shoot two targets at a time with here dual guns and stuff like that. :D
I bought Legend to give CD a chance..........they fukt up.
SO if they are doing this remake, I am not buying it.
New fan base! Heck yeah, the other day at work, these 10 year olds were talking about TRL like it was the best thing in the world. Oh, may I add they were girls too. Rememinded me of when I was 13 and playing TR3. ^.^
Remaking the first Tomb Raider I'm sure will bring lots of new fan base with the youngings who wouldn't play TR1 because of it being 10 years old and bad graphics. XD
New Graphics, New moves, More elaborated tombs, The same puzzles only more difficult, all that good stuff of the first one only updated and better.
They wouldn't dare add something like Zip and Alister, just as much as they wouldn't dare add Kurtis. If they do dare, we should storm CD and burn the building to the ground because then Tomb Raider will really be dead. It'll be like Classic TR fans verse New TR fans. AOD and TRL fans will have to unite temporarly, and there will be this huge war! XD
Agreed 100% :tmb:
Please,make it with the option of turning off/on the mummies :D!
I'll be waiting for it :)!
Oh, bring back the old Main Menu System(Ring inventory) too with "Story So Far..." feature...
Or the way the cinematics were handled in Legend, however insert a "Play All" feature this time.
And also Lara's closet and ability to change her clothing during the game. That was good :D And also change her outfit depending on the level.
Example TR1 Lara in Peru will have to wear winter wera other wise she'll freeze to death. you know what I mean.
Please,make it with the option of turning off/on the mummies :D!
But they're one of the reasons the game was so great. Playing for hours, late at night, then BAM, out come the undead!! Brilliant!!!
Just imagine them in next-gen :cln:
WhosaidAODwasbad
16-06-06, 17:19
Lucky for PlayStation 3 owners.
If they pick up the PS2 version, it will be backwards compatible so they can play it on their PS3 in hi-defintion!
exactly, I think when that comes out though I'll have to work over time for a month!
They wouldn't dare add something like Zip and Alister, just as much as they wouldn't dare add Kurtis. If they do dare, we should storm CD and burn the building to the ground because then Tomb Raider will really be dead. It'll be like Classic TR fans verse New TR fans. AOD and TRL fans will have to unite temporarly, and there will be this huge war! XD
Hurrah PirateRose, now you're talking :tmb:
Reading through this thread I can't help but get the nausiating thoughts of
'Headset/Grapple/Spinning Targets/New combat/Zip and Alister/New Mansion/New music/timetrials/costumes/three foot jumps/ and Yes, even 'new engine'.
I have a scary feeling they're going to really legendise this game, - ok ok I'll give them a chance, but I'm Really not holding my breath.
EDIT:
Oh god, I forgot about the blackouts! Say goodbye to jumping off that platform in Great Pyramid folks http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j307/RivendellHylia/blownose.gif
Make me eat my words CD, Make me. Please.
Thanks, TLR! This is great news. Although I would have liked to see Core Design develop it, I'm willing to give Crystal Design a chance. Let's face it - if they bugger it up, the TR fans won't let them get away with it, will they?
I REALLY hope they're not going to change Lara's background to coincidence with Legend's. And I'd really hate to see the targets make a return. Ditto Alister and Zip - although I enjoyed hearing them in Legend, they have no place in the classic.
I agree that they should use the TRII or TRIII mansion (I vote TRIII)...if they use the Cornwall mansion instead, I think I may cry. :(
I also would like to see the orginal voice actors return. And I can't wait to see Larson! :D
I'm willing to give Crystal Design a chance. Let's face it - if they bugger it up, the TR fans won't let them get away with it, will they?
I hope not.
Lara's Boy
16-06-06, 17:23
I am SOOO glad Eidos finally released a statement, hopefully all the hostilities will quiet down here, lol! I am glad there will be a 10th anniversary, if nothing more than to show the people who thought the cancellation of a TR remake by CORE meant Lara wouldn't 'have a game to celebrate her birthday' that Eidos isn't some cold and heartless entity. Thank you Eidos, and CD, make me proud with this one!!!!
As always, thanks TLR for delivering straight forward news that can be relied upon. :wve:
TombRaiderRulz
16-06-06, 17:28
I thought the remake was cancelled?
If they do plan to remake it they should add a little of each classic game.
Catlantean
16-06-06, 17:29
Yay! And for PC too? :yah:
Great news :tmb:
illuminati30
16-06-06, 17:29
Can we have the unlimited back pack back please?
Try saying that fast :tea:
I thought the remake was cancelled?
If they do plan to remake it they should add a little of each classic game.
The Core remake was cancelled, despite being 80% complete. Eidos decided to let Crystal Dynamics design the game instead, seeing how Crystal Dynamics have such a long, successful history with Tomb Raider...</sarcasm>
Still, shouldn't moan. At least we're getting a remake. And I suppose this means I can buy Hitman Blood Money now. I just wish I'd know this before I'd gone shopping today! ;)
Can we have the unlimited back pack back please?
OMG YES! And they have to bring back the ring menu. And none of this "less is more realistic" crap. Who wants realism in a video game, FFS? ;)
I would like to see some weather effects like snow, rain, sand storms 'n' stuff :)
Can we have the unlimited back pack back please?
Try saying that fast :tea:
Wha....? No way. I want the items the way they were handled in LEGEND. Same goes for the weapons. No more finding ammo in temples, but finding a weapon next to a corpse of a previous Tomb raider would be good (Like Lara found the backpack in TR4)
Lleonard Pler
16-06-06, 17:34
Good news!!!
I just knew that the project was cancelled with Core, not with Crystal Dynamics. Eidos wouldn't let such a great opportunity to make money pass them by.
Now let's hope that Crystal Dynamics enhance the controls and the graphics, but remain faithful to the original level and puzzle designs.
I had lost hope after the recent announcement by the Core employees. Great to know it's still going to be released.
Like others have mentioned, I hope they stay as true to the original as possible with improved graphics and control. HopefullyTRAE on the PC will have a next gen graphics option. Drooling at the thought of how amazing the sphinx could look with updated visuals. ;)
Any idea when it will be released? November would make sense but it would be nice to know for sure.:tea:
Clara [CA]
16-06-06, 17:35
Yup, great news indeed ! Thanks tlr ! :jmp:
Can we have the unlimited back pack back please?
God yes, that was one thing I did actually 'hate' about legend.
In previous TR games you found your weapons and you kept hold of them, developing a special 'relationship' with them if you will, knowing what's best for taking out certain enemies.
In legend you get a couple of weapons, and you'll use it for a few minutes before picking up another one. < No thank you, I'd rather 'know' what I'm using instead of having a 'quick fling' with them, if you get me.
WhosaidAODwasbad
16-06-06, 17:44
Level the Remake the same as the original just Add-on things that won't mess with the intigrity of the game or story, Idon't mind extra levels just make them make sense! Also update, update, update!!!! don't mind older puzzles they should be the same but maybe add some new ones or modernize the ones that are already there!
I've played TR one alot so hopefully I can get stumped once in a while and they need to add some evil little things that otherwise we would not know about! Maybe even add one or two more keys and puzzles in the ST. FRanicis Folly level that would be cool!
WhosaidAODwasbad
16-06-06, 17:46
God yes, that was one thing I did actually 'hate' about legend.
In previous TR games you found your weapons and you kept hold of them, developing a special 'relationship' with them if you will, knowing what's best for taking out certain enemies.
In legend you get a couple of weapons, and you'll use it for a few minutes before picking up another one. < No thank you, I'd rather 'know' what I'm using instead of having a 'quick fling' with them, if you get me.
If anything I want at least 3 weapons total if not all and be able to keep them all the time so if we don't have the magnums I would be fine! Maybe there will be an extra where you can play the whole game exactly like the original! ultimated back pack, controls, everything just graphically better! So you can play CD's version and then say naw I'll turn on the ultimated back pack cheat or this or that!
Oh God!!!! I really hope the mansion isn't anything like the one from Legend.
That one just Blows, bring back the classic gym and gardens with assault course and race track. Insert some vehicles in TR1 as well.
Also, if a door is opened in the mension, when I reload it, I'd like to see it closed again.
In few words, just bring back the old mansion. Lara's real home. Just because the one from Legend was named Croft Manor, it didn't have the mansion feeling to me.
I completely agre. Croft Manor didnt feel like home, it didnt even feel like it was in England. Bring back Old Mansion With the classic red bricking.
Raider-Boy
16-06-06, 17:55
Woah this thread has grown fast! I haven't played TR1 yet. Do you think I should play the original or wait for the remake? It makes sense to play the classic Tomb-Raider game that sparked the whole franchise, but if the remake is made faithfully then the graphics will be worth the extra money. What do you think? :D
Lara's Boy
16-06-06, 17:57
Woah this thread has grown fast! I haven't played TR1 yet. Do you think I should play the original or wait for the remake? It makes sense to play the classic Tomb-Raider game that sparked the whole franchise, but if the remake is made faithfully then the graphics will be worth the extra money. What do you think? :D
Play the original first.
:wve:
The original, definitely play the original first.
pedrokas23
16-06-06, 17:58
Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I suppose I'll have to take back everything I said and buy this game. I love Lara and I suppose I'll support her by buying the games ^^
Atlantean Natla
16-06-06, 18:01
The new Croft Manor sucked. I mean; I wanted there to be a trophy room with the old Artifacts... At least some memory of games that passed.
And I think, if they are just going to make CD work on the remake, to just cancel it. CD ruins everything. I'd hate to see Natla become a half-naked street slut because CD said she was.
Can we have the unlimited back pack back please?
In my opinion the unlimited back pack makes the game too easy. Lara carries a veritable arsenal around on her back and you just piece the piece of artillery your want for the situation. It becomes a real challenge if you have to chose between a shot gun or Uzis for close in combat or an assault rifle if you are going hang back or a sniper rifle for long distance work.
It is kind of amusing to see those would pointed out how easy TRL was arguing for an unlimited back pack.
Lara's Boy
16-06-06, 18:05
In my opinion the unlimited back pack makes the game too easy. Lara carries a veritable arsenal around on her back and you just piece the piece of artillery your want for the situation. It becomes a real challenge if you have to chose between a shot gun or Uzis for close in combat or an assault rifle if you are going hang back or a sniper rifle for long distance work.
It is kind of amusing to see those would pointed out how easy TRL was arguing for an unlimited back pack.
I don't think whether the backpack is unlimited or not determines the difficulty of the games....I think it is about going back to form, and reliving the classic elements. TRL was WAY easier than the others, and I only used my pistols for the entire game. ALL of the originals were much more difficult (in terms of enemy combatants), and I NEEDED every weapon in my possession; even that did not determine success on several occasions, lol
:wve:
illuminati30
16-06-06, 18:05
Dont forger the TR1 mansion was tiny!
I hope we get the jump forward, jump backward .... cheats back =)
this is fantastic news! and there wont be too long to wait either!, so the natla crates at the end of legend were a clue then?? how cool is that? :D
Psychopompador
16-06-06, 18:15
I hope we get the jump forward, jump backward .... cheats back =)
forward back forward back- step left- step right- turn around three times- then jump backwards!!! I can't believe I remeber that. (maybe that one makes her explode though)
To be a true revisit- they would HAVE to keep that.
It'll only make her explode if you use it in TR2 :P
those were the days!
Dont forger the TR1 mansion was tiny!
Oh god please let them expand it!!!
forward back forward back- step left- step right- turn around three times- then jump backwards!!! I can't believe I remeber that. (maybe that one makes her explode though)
To be a true revisit- they would HAVE to keep that.
Hahah , tell me about it - I still remember a TR3 cheat from Years ago on PS1-
L2 R2 L2 L2 R2 L2 R2 L2 R2 L2 L2 L2 L2 R2L2 R2 R2 R2 R2 L2
:eek:
Hahah , tell me about it - I still remember a TR3 cheat from Years ago on PS1-
L2 R2 L2 L2 R2 L2 R2 L2 R2 L2 L2 L2 L2 R2L2 R2 R2 R2 R2 L2
:eek:
The good old days :):D:p
Brother Rumblebottoms
16-06-06, 18:30
http://www.copy-n-print.com/yay.gif
I'm so happy it will be on PC too, what wonderful news!
Woooooohooooooooooooooooo:jmp::jmp::jmp:
Psychopompador
16-06-06, 18:33
I also want a Piggyback guide for the update version! (prima sucks in comparison to piggyback)
Do you guys think there will be save crystals again? I hope so, that was the best save feature in a tr yet.
Psychopompador
16-06-06, 18:39
Do you guys think there will be save crystals again? I hope so, that was the best save feature in a tr yet.
wouldn't be a proper remake with out all the defining game elemnts of the original.
PC! Whoohoooo! :D ^_^
Anything about NextGen content?
wouldn't be a proper remake with out all the defining game elemnts of the original.
Which is why I'm worrying :o I'd love save crystals to be back personally!
is it possible that Legend was rushed so CD could work on the Remake? and that's why Legend was so ... Legendy...?
interstellardave
16-06-06, 19:00
Which is why I'm worrying :o I'd love save crystals to be back personally!
You have to be more optimistic! The fact that it would be bad to do something shouldn't automatically make you think CD will do it! :p
interstellardave
16-06-06, 19:01
is it possible that Legend was rushed so CD could work on the Remake? and that's why Legend was so ... Legendy...?
I think the problem with Legend was that they were too stressed making the same game for 9 different systems! Add 'em up and that's what it is... they're still working on Gamecube, DS, GBA, and Mobile versions!
I'm just afraid we're not gonna be able to grab or slide any ledge we want, but we'll be convicted to that ridiculous linear form.. I mean really, come on. It was all about Lara vs the Environment... Impossible jumps, last minute grabs, climbing ladders till your sweaty fingers fall of.
I don't think they'll put their best effort in this remake. The easiest thing would be to use the Legend engine, but it has it's flaws (look up :D), and that's exactly what they'll do. Make it like Legend. In more aspects than just graphic, I'm afraid.
It's not just the bullet time or music that were problems with Legend. It strayed from the classic and perfect gameplay with more than just minor problems.
Tomb Raider Jay
16-06-06, 19:05
I wonder when we will get the first explosion of media for the game - like screens, interviews, trailers and such? :confused:
I think it'll be pretty soon, maybe something during the summer?
I hope it's soon, I want to see how the game looks and find out what features it will have :jmp:
wait. Legend had how many levels? TR1 had how many levels?
didn't they use up all space for the PS2 version... the disc was full right?
how are they going to make huge levels and many of them with higher graphics and the like?
unless they just took the material core was working on and are modding it.
interstellardave
16-06-06, 19:08
I'm just afraid we're not gonna be able to grab or slide any ledge we want, but we'll be convicted to that ridiculous linear form.. I mean really, come on. It was all about Lara vs the Environment... Impossible jumps, last minute grabs, climbing ladders till your sweaty fingers fall of.
I don't think they'll put their best effort in this remake. The easiest thing would be to use the Legend engine, but it has it's flaws (look up :D), and that's exactly what they'll do. Make it like Legends. In more aspects than just graphic, I'm afraid.
It's not just the bullet time or music that were problems with Legend. It strayed from the classic and perfect gameplay with more than just minor problems.
The problem with Legend wasn't really the engine though--it was the environments they created with it and told you to play in with it. The controls were fine they just seemed to make the game too easy because the game was too easy. Bigger areas, more treacherous jumps, more traps, all would have upped the difficulty--without needing to change back the controls or anything. That's why there's always hope for TR8!
kewlkyle64
16-06-06, 19:12
Aww man I'm glad their making it but I wish they had it on Xbox 360.
WhosaidAODwasbad
16-06-06, 19:13
The problem with Legend wasn't really the engine though--it was the environments they created with it and told you to play in with it. The controls were fine they just seemed to make the game too easy because the game was too easy. Bigger areas, more treacherous jumps, more traps, all would have upped the difficulty--without needing to change back the controls or anything. That's why there's always hope for TR8!
Exactly controls should be easy and fun to use, unlike past tomb raiders, although I am used to yet legend has much better controls, but legend is easy like interstellardave said because its easy not because of the controls!
Tomb Raider Jay
16-06-06, 19:14
wait. Legend had how many levels? TR1 had how many levels?
didn't they use up all space for the PS2 version... the disc was full right?
how are they going to make huge levels and many of them with higher graphics and the like?
unless they just took the material core was working on and are modding it.
They could always release the game on 2 - Discs edition, that would be a special one-off if you like - to go along with the anniversary :)
There's no way they'd fit everything in a Re-made Tomb Raider onto one PS2 disc is there?
TombRaiderLover
16-06-06, 19:16
For some strange reason, I don't care whether or not it's being made by Core. I'm just happy there's going to be a remake.
YAY!!!! Oh, and I hope they definitely remake TR2.
I am sooo happy it is coming on PC.
Thanks for the info.
TRhistorian
16-06-06, 19:52
"...it will appeal not only to the loyal fans of the Tomb Raider series but will also attract a totally new audience."
Not to me. I refuse to play or buy it and I cannot believe that once again the money hungry fools go through with another plot just to make money. I cannot believe they would re-make it when it is Core's game. Count me out, I refuse to spend money on a game that isn't even CD's place to touch.:mad:
Mr FANTASTIC
16-06-06, 20:05
They could always release the game on 2 - Discs edition, that would be a special one-off if you like - to go along with the anniversary :)
There's no way they'd fit everything in a Re-made Tomb Raider onto one PS2 disc is there?
Double layered-disks are the answer. Also, I highly doubt the TRL disk was full.
They could always release the game on 2 - Discs edition, that would be a special one-off if you like - to go along with the anniversary :)
There's no way they'd fit everything in a Re-made Tomb Raider onto one PS2 disc is there?
agreed :tmb:
black_sheepa
16-06-06, 20:15
never thought of that- i wonder if it will be the old mansion.
I'm looking forward to all the little niblets of info and screenshots (like the ones that trickled in over time for TRL) That was the best part of these forums for me- opening it up one morning and seeing a sticky from TLR with a new screenshot.
Oh, yes, the mansion. But not only "a mansion"! I think we all want a mansion with a thousend of puzzels, not like in legend "a few" (i think they was four)
Not to me. I refuse to play or buy it and I cannot believe that once again the money hungry fools go through with another plot just to make money. I cannot believe they would re-make it when it is Core's game. Count me out, I refuse to spend money on a game that isn't even CD's place to touch.:mad:
talk about overreacting..
i'm just glad there will be a remake.. and if it sucks, it will only proof the classics are indeed classic :)
Wait...it's not going to be the last Tomb Raider game ever is it? I mean...just a 10th Anniversary edition right?
Wait...it's not going to be the last Tomb Raider game ever is it? I mean...just a 10th Anniversary edition right?
I hope so, besides, Legend still needs to be finished.
kewlkyle64
16-06-06, 20:30
I am sooo happy it is coming on PC.
If you'll recall, every TR game that has ever even existed was on the PC, from TR1 to Legend.
http://websmileys.com/sm/crazy/1087.gifDuh.
If you'll recall, every TR game that has ever even existed was on the PC, from TR1 to Legend.
http://websmileys.com/sm/crazy/1087.gifDuh.
At first it was said that it was just for PSP, I think :confused:
Lone Raider
16-06-06, 20:36
Holy ***- I've had a bad day today and just came in and discovered this.
You guys don't honestly think that Eidos and Crystal D are going to read any of this and consider what you want?
My guess:
spinning targets, grapple hook, constant Zipping, and the Dinos as a fmv.
I'm not surprised... really. I'm surprised, if anything, that Core did work on a Remake at all. I would like to know why there are two versions by two companies. I would also like to agree with TRHistorian, and express my anger a bit more, but I don't think I'll bother.
Well we'll see how it all turns out and this is a good place to come to and see what everyone thinks about it once it's out.
wow all thease threads on the subject are now closed im so happy and that its not just on psp im so happy thats for the info!!!!!!!!!! :gki:
jamieoliver22
16-06-06, 21:04
This has made my day!! :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:jmp::jmp::jmp::jmp:
It is on PC aswel :D
Laras Backpack
16-06-06, 21:23
:yah: *does a happy dance*
I wonder when we will get the first explosion of media for the game - like screens, interviews, trailers and such? :confused:
I think it'll be pretty soon, maybe something during the summer?
I hope it's soon, I want to see how the game looks and find out what features it will have :jmp:
Well it's bieng released in November so I hope very soon!
The new game is being developed by Crystal Dynamics, .
OMG http://209.85.12.234/3811/147/emo/shock2.gif HOW COULD THEY?!?!?!?!
So, it wasnt enough to those money greedy b******ds to ruin Tomb Raider, they have to ruin the classics too.
So are they going to take the original game code and alter it. Or are they going to create the re-make from scratch? :confused:
But I am glad they are definately doing the re-make, now I have to choose between PSP or PS2 :D
Erm just a thought. CD have got five months to make this re-make or so I pressume. Kind of impossible don't cha think?
If you'll recall, every TR game that has ever even existed was on the PC, from TR1 to Legend.
http://websmileys.com/sm/crazy/1087.gifDuh.
At first it was said that it was just for PSP, I think :confused:
Yes that is why I said "yay" to it coming to the pc.
Depends.. We don't know how long CD have actually been working on it.
thepetemaster
16-06-06, 21:51
Why wait for the butchered remake - just enjoy the old games - its never gonna be as great as the old games - especially if CD have anything to do with them.
Psychopompador
16-06-06, 21:56
why do some people assume it is gonna get butchered. Do you have any info that can validate your claim?
I'm so gutted that it's not on Xbox or Xbox 360. I would have loved it. Guess I'll have to get it for PC.:(
MelikeLara
16-06-06, 22:03
well said psychopompador!
let's just wait and see guys, i hope some people have to eat their words
sebastian_z0
16-06-06, 22:06
Oh!!! Yeesss! Old/New Tomb Raider
well said psychopompador!
let's just wait and see guys, i hope some people have to eat their words
Me to, I want to be proven wrong, I really REALLY do. Hence what I've said in another of my posts in Big Bold Striking letters: Make me eat my words CD, please, Make me.
thepetemaster
16-06-06, 22:28
"Do you have any info that can validate your claim?"
Hmm psycho, did you play trl at all ? If TR remake ends up vaguely like that - it may as well not get made.
There are alot of problems with this remake. Trl control system and engine will not work if applied to this game. Swimming for example is now stupid. The old game had great underwater movement. Hold down one button and swim in the direction you want to go - so easy. Some people have complained how old Lara was a "tank" - well the new Lara was like a bloody submarine.
The grid system was a significant part of the old games. Now CD has eradicated this, the old level designs are not going to play out the same way at all. It will definitely have a drastic impact on the gameplay.
The capabilities of the ps1 back in the day also contributed to the make-up of the enviroments. The draw distance lent an atmosphere to the levels. If you get to that Sphinx level in the new game - and you can see the entire level - it is going to suck. The gloominess that the dark added was brilliant - its going to be very tricky to capture all of this once again.
I really would love to eat my words - and have this be the best TR ever - but I am fearing the worst now. They are too short on time and are focussing on too many formats again. I would rather they just concentrated on just one system and pushed it as far as they could.
The problem with remakes is that people like to want to put their own stamp on it. CD have already done this with TRL. I didnt like the direction they took the series. There is just too many areas that they can trip up making this game - and only one way to get it right. I remain non-plussed.
Oh god please let them expand it!!!
If they dont expand it then there really wouldnt be no point in putting it in because u can only explore the Libary, Music room, Main Hall, Gym and swimming pool. So they would have to make t bigger
I hope they completely revamp it, just keep the same story. :)
OMG!
I'm speechless
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
Looking forward to put my hands on that!!!!
The special '10th Anniversary Edition' of Tomb Raider will be available on PlayStation 2, PSP and PC.
PC...
:yah: :yah: :yah:
Thanks TLR :wve: That's a great news :tmb:
That's great, thanks for the info tlr! :tmb:
I would rather see they spend their efforts on a complete new game than on a remake. It would feel rediculous to do the same adventures.
But maybe it will be a new game... yeah i guess it will be. Hmm, good news! :)
Wowww, 21 pages :yah:
Thanks for the info!
Hey guys you have to remember that one of the Core guys said the game was 80% finished so to say that Crystal will make the game like Legend is going a little overboard. Can't wait to play it. :)
lol thevman will rally a group of users to storm Eidos.
Trust me, the sign up will begin the night of the release... if they screw this up! :ton:
MY GAWD! IT TOOK ME FOREVER TO CATCH UP WITH THIS THREAD!!!
Lots of good stuff here, I will join in your optimism... for now. Hopefully they will do this right. PLEASE!!!
I would rather see they spend their efforts on a complete new game than on a remake. It would feel rediculous to do the same adventures.
But maybe it will be a new game... yeah i guess it will be. Hmm, good news! :)
I know where you're coming from on this. But like someone else posted earlier, look at it this way, maybe if they remake TR1 they'll (CD) see what makes a proper TR game and TR8 will be better too! (hides doubts behind smilie face) :D
remake!! SQUEE!!!
yay!
other words of joy!
yay!
fondantcookie
17-06-06, 01:36
I would rather see they spend their efforts on a complete new game than on a remake. It would feel rediculous to do the same adventures.
But maybe it will be a new game... yeah i guess it will be. Hmm, good news! :)
Woah i think thats the first negative comment Ive read directly related to the remakes announcement....
And i wouldnt worry, some one mentioned earlier that CD are a big company....so they've no doubt partitioned the projects...
I mean, some CD staff must still be working on the GC port of Legend :S
And I agree with thevman and interstella dave...this remake will show CD what a REAL Tomb Raider game is like.... only positive if you ask me :D:D:D:D:D
WhosaidAODwasbad
17-06-06, 01:46
Most definitly it can only be postive. Also maybe even CD can show what they can do when they are in this sort of situation! They do have a line to follow with the original, but there are so many things you could do with it to make it better and almost new game, such as cool interactive sequences, more areas, and controls, so new platforming areas. No doubt it is in good hands, plus CD has always made great platforming games, legend was a bit disappointing but come on soul Reaver has awesome atmosphere and puzzles!
Can we see the Toby Gard interview now tlr? :tea:
:vlol:
OMG! Can't wait to play it. :jmp:
such as cool interactive sequences!
ooooooooooooooooh noooooooooooooooooo....please no.....:(
fondantcookie
17-06-06, 02:07
Most definitly it can only be postive. Also maybe even CD can show what they can do when they are in this sort of situation! They do have a line to follow with the original, but there are so many things you could do with it to make it better and almost new game, such as cool interactive sequences, more areas, and controls, so new platforming areas. No doubt it is in good hands, plus CD has always made great platforming games, legend was a bit disappointing but come on soul Reaver has awesome atmosphere and puzzles!
I just vomited all over my laptop...thankyou very much...
....hehehe
WhosaidAODwasbad
17-06-06, 02:35
I just vomited all over my laptop...thankyou very much...
....hehehe
Hey the interactive cutscenes were fun, but not difficult enough! I do not want areas that you could fully play before have them. But maybe something like the fight with the t-rex have an interactive scene and you fight him fully just to make it more epic. If not I don't mind, but I think legend was on to something there with those interactive cutscenes, not as cool as RE4 but defintly cool! Let me ask you would you like them if they were as good as RE4! or you just don't like them?
The only things they could make interactive would be the FMV's and that would be kind of lame. Lara has to cut elevator cable, press action, lara has to ride motorcycle, just push left and right at the right moment, lara has to hop off motorcycle, press action, lara has to hop down to save guide, press action, lara has to defend herself against wolves, press shoot. Meh... :rolleyes:
WhosaidAODwasbad
17-06-06, 02:48
The only things they could make interactive would be the FMV's and that would be kind of lame. Lara has to cut elevator cable, press action, lara has to ride motorcycle, just push left and right at the right moment, lara has to hop off motorcycle, press action, lara has to hop down to save guide, press action, lara has to defend herself against wolves, press shoot. Meh... :rolleyes:
Have you played god of War I am not saying something as extensive and unreal but nothing something more like that than legend. So maybe you shoot the T-Rex it begins to Tire so you get close to it press TRiangle silde under it from the back side then climb up the T-Rexs back side Try to tango with it ala Shadow of Coluosos (Can't spell) then hang on and shoot it on top of the head to take it out other wise you have to restart! it will try to bite you and shake you off while you are on top! I am not saying they have to but! I think TR's boss battles are really bland especially Legends! back then yeah that was cool, I don't mind doing that but add something that makes it more epic, like mounting it or shooting something so it will fall on it, like a puzzle within the boss! As I said Shadow of Colussos or God of WAR. Something that looks cool and lara like nothing extensive or fancy like Kratos would do!
fondantcookie
17-06-06, 02:54
Have you played god of War I am not saying something as extensive and unreal but nothing something more like that than legend. So maybe you shoot the T-Rex it begins to Tire so you get close to it press TRiangle silde under it from the back side then climb up the T-Rexs back side Try to tango with it ala Shadow of Coluosos (Can't spell) then hang on and shoot it on top of the head to take it out other wise you have to restart! it will try to bite you and shake you off while you are on top! I am not saying they have to but! I think TR's boss battles are really bland especially Legends! back then yeah that was cool, I don't mind doing that but add something that makes it more epic, like mounting it or shooting something so it will fall on it, like a puzzle within the boss! As I said Shadow of Colussos or God of WAR. Something that looks cool and lara like nothing extensive or fancy like Kratos would do!
That sounds great....but just NOT for tomb raider...
As i mentioned in a previous post....TR1 didnt really have a great emphasis on combat....
And additions like these would in my opinion turn it into an action game like legend and would destroy the classic atmosphere....
Its okay for TR8....but CD have a huge traditionalist fan base to please with this remake....and additions like this sound waay too drastic and waay too hollywood. Its straying TOO far from the original forumula and there would inevitably be severe backlash following release...
TR is a precious game. CD no doubt know this and dont want to ruin the experience for old and new fans alike....
WhosaidAODwasbad
17-06-06, 03:00
Oh yeah I am not saying make more enemies and its like World War II out there of course I want the classic feel, but I what I am really say is that when you encounter the giant Atlantian and T-Rex, they should add some sort of puzzle around them or interaction you could otherwise not pull of ala God of WAr! I am not saying for every enemy like God of WAr there is a finish move! I just think more interactive boss battles would be more fun than just shooting the big enemies, Yeah, I don't mind either way, i do like jumping around and back fliping, but what if you pushed an a button and she could slide under the T-rex without getting bit. even something as subtle or easy I would like you know to spice up the big battles everynow and then! I diffently don't want god of Lara but I would like something more bland than just jumping left and right! Wouldn't you?
WOW this thread went to page 23 ALREADY?!?! WOOW..I gotta read all this:)
WHAT.... WHAT!!!!
HOLY ****!!!!
I didnt expect to cme home to see this!!!!!This is ****IN AWESOME.....
Lost_Raider
17-06-06, 05:11
I don't know...it just scream cash run for me...I'll sit tight and watch how things got turned out...
I still can't shake off the sour taste from C&C Frst Decade Edition...
DUAL UZIS!!
DUAL UZIS!!
DUAL UZIS!!!
DUAL UZIS!!!!
DUAL UZIS!!!!!!....
.......
whoa.........................sorry about that......(clears throat)
I think what were going to see with this remake is that the basic designs of the levels will be kept intact, but they will be altered to fit the "Legend" style of gameplay.......I think we'el see the the grapple used, and some of the puzzles will be physical just like the ones in Legend......
Regardless of whether CD is planning on keeping the headset for TR8, i DOUBT we will see it in this remake.......although i support the headset, you kinda gotta drop it if your gunna "re-make" the original TR1.....It would just seem more "classic if Lara went-it-alone for this one.....
....fighting Pierre Dupont on my PS2 :jmp:
.....Trex and the lost valley on my PS2 :jmp: :jmp:
......Atlantis and that big ugly legless guy on my PS2 :eek:
.....Final battle with Natla re-done on my PS2!!!!!! :yik:
Dual Uzis Rule!!! http://forum.fbodyowners.com/forum/images/smilies/super2.gif
I wonder if lara will slap larson in the opening FMV when he's hitting on her... wink, wink, nudge, nudge... :tea:
So are they going to take the original game code and alter it. Or are they going to create the re-make from scratch? :confused:
Knowing Crystal Dynamics' way, they will take the old Legacy of Kain code from who knows what year (1998-9 in my knowledge) and build the remake on top of that. ... cause thats how they built TR Legend.
I wonder when people start to question if their LOK engine is too old. I mean, it sure doesnt work on Tomb Raider. Lara used to have smooth moves but now she's moving like a monkey... so she is not just DOING a monkey swing, she IS a monkey :mad:
Erm just a thought. CD have got five months to make this re-make or so I pressume. Kind of impossible don't cha think?
Well, not actually. Its like building TRLE custom levels. Good builder does a new set of levels in 5 months. They, CrystalD, have many builders and i'm 100% sure they are not gonna make anything completely new, just use their old stuff like in Legend, so 5 months is not that short time.
There are alot of problems with this remake. Trl control system and engine will not work if applied to this game. Swimming for example is now stupid. The old game had great underwater movement. Hold down one button and swim in the direction you want to go - so easy. Some people have complained how old Lara was a "tank" - well the new Lara was like a bloody submarine.
EXACTLY http://209.85.12.234/3811/147/emo/up.gif
I never learned to swim with this Crystal Dynamics Lara, and im glad there were so few underwater (and water in general) parts in it. Which i think was because Crystal didnt quite know how to make the swimming... I mean how hard it is to use ONE button for swimming and direction keys for directions??? They couldnt even code it so that you could use MOUSE to direction. ... why make mouse controlling game if you cant use it in all direction purposes??? like moving opjects, swimming, swinging poles etc. (we all know how the mouse somehow got STUCK when Lara was moving objects, or used the grabble... it was just USELESS).
They really should have asked Core Desing how the swimming is supposed to be done. :mad:
And yes thepetemaster, she is now more like submarine with malfunctioning steering system.
Hey the interactive cutscenes were fun,
What was your age again? They were the stupidest and the most childish thing i have ever seen in Tomb Raider.
You couldnt even enjoy what happened in those stupid cut scenes cause you had to be pay attention to those stupid instructions on screen and be ready to push what ever buottons they decided to put on the screen.
ALL the on screen instructions, where they tell you what you are supposed to do are NOT Tomb Raider. They are for childrens's games.
MellowYellow
17-06-06, 08:37
Hey guys you have to remember that one of the Core guys said the game was 80% finished so to say that Crystal will make the game like Legend is going a little overboard. Can't wait to play it. :)
Hi Sweat_pea,
I've just posted this on another thread so i'll recap. Our game has stopped development. As far as i know we have not given our game out. CD's version will be all of their own creation and not based on ours. Dont worry, i'm sure its in good hands with CD.
tlr online
17-06-06, 08:38
Morning Mellow :wve: Did Eidos bankroll your project or was it financed in-house?
*feels very confused*...
On one hand... yay, original TR with a graphical update *drools at the thought of all those beautiful locations and enemies with a modern update*
On the other... *feels very nervous and worried*. I hope the original is treated with respect. I hope CD and Eidos don't decide to do their 'old TRs are crap and must be replaced by new stuff' turn on this one. If this remake is dumbed down to Legend levels, there will be no limit to my anguish and fury. Legend I can kind of forgive - it was a new game after all... but the remake? If this goes all 'Atomic Kitten covers Pink Floyd', I'm out of here. Hell hath no fury like a TR fan scorned and all that...
HOPEFULLY this will be a good learning exercise for CD on how to make a good, challenging and atmospheric TR game. HOPEFULLY they will at least take on board the opinions / reactions of the fans. HOPEFULLY they will have the sense to respect the original and produce a remake that can be held up proudly as a shining example of how it *should* be done.
If they add in that bloody headset and those sodding interactive cutscenes, though... :cen: :cen: :cen: :cen: :cen:
Still feel sorry for the Core boys, though... *sniffs* Their version looked so special, and we certainly wouldn't have to be reminding them / hoping that they would have the sense to respect the original...
By Zeus sir, I admire your optimitic attitude Mellow!! :tmb:
:D :D :D :D :jmp: :jmp: :jmp: :jmp: :jmp: :jmp: :jmp:
goddamn, i really hope its NOT a remake... bring us a NEW one, those old ones are classic, don't **** them up!!!!!!! it's like remaking your altime best movie, would you like the remake above the original? no way! goddamn
illuminati30
17-06-06, 08:51
*feels very confused*...
On one hand... yay, original TR with a graphical update *drools at the thought of all those beautiful locations and enemies with a modern update*
On the other... *feels very nervous and worried*. I hope the original is treated with respect. I hope CD and Eidos don't decide to do their 'old TRs are crap and must be replaced by new stuff' turn on this one. If this remake is dumbed down to Legend levels, there will be no limit to my anguish and fury. Legend I can kind of forgive - it was a new game after all... but the remake? If this goes all 'Atomic Kitten covers Pink Floyd', I'm out of here. Hell hath no fury like a TR fan scorned and all that...
HOPEFULLY this will be a good learning exercise for CD on how to make a good, challenging and atmospheric TR game. HOPEFULLY they will at least take on board the opinions / reactions of the fans. HOPEFULLY they will have the sense to respect the original and produce a remake that can be held up proudly as a shining example of how it *should* be done.
If they add in that bloody headset and those sodding interactive cutscenes, though... :cen: :cen: :cen: :cen: :cen:
Still feel sorry for the Core boys, though... *sniffs* Their version looked so special, and we certainly wouldn't have to be reminding them / hoping that they would have the sense to respect the original...
I agree, its simply a mixed bag of feelings. I just hope they do it right, and stay true to the original game.
*feels very confused*...
On one hand... yay, original TR with a graphical update *drools at the thought of all those beautiful locations and enemies with a modern update*
On the other... *feels very nervous and worried*. I hope the original is treated with respect. I hope CD and Eidos don't decide to do their 'old TRs are crap and must be replaced by new stuff' turn on this one. If this remake is dumbed down to Legend levels, there will be no limit to my anguish and fury. Legend I can kind of forgive - it was a new game after all... but the remake? If this goes all 'Atomic Kitten covers Pink Floyd', I'm out of here. Hell hath no fury like a TR fan scorned and all that...
HOPEFULLY this will be a good learning exercise for CD on how to make a good, challenging and atmospheric TR game. HOPEFULLY they will at least take on board the opinions / reactions of the fans. HOPEFULLY they will have the sense to respect the original and produce a remake that can be held up proudly as a shining example of how it *should* be done.
If they add in that bloody headset and those sodding interactive cutscenes, though... :cen: :cen: :cen: :cen: :cen:
Still feel sorry for the Core boys, though... *sniffs* Their version looked so special, and we certainly wouldn't have to be reminding them / hoping that they would have the sense to respect the original...
There, there elysia, don't worry, if they (CD) mess it up I WILL be forming a lynch mob... :cen:
http://uk.psp.ign.com/articles/712/712999p1.html
here's ign's article
Ooooh... :( :( :( ...
*Loves TR1 so much it hurts... Confusion! Confusion! Wants update to modern graphics so badly... doesn't want modern prediliction for dumbing down things to appeal to the lowest common denominator... wants TR:AE to be a success and bring it forward to the new milennium... doesn't want TR:AE to be linear, homgeonised mess that disrespects the original's complexity in any way...*
So many conflicting emotions!
CuteKittenlol
17-06-06, 09:57
:yah: this is great :D
Ooooh... :( :( :( ...
*Loves TR1 so much it hurts... Confusion! Confusion! Wants update to modern graphics so badly... doesn't want modern prediliction for dumbing down things to appeal to the lowest common denominator... wants TR:AE to be a success and bring it forward to the new milennium... doesn't want TR:AE to be linear, homgeonised mess that disrespects the original's complexity in any way...*
So many conflicting emotions!
I know a solution to your conflicting emotions, elysia... but I can't say it in mixed company! :cln:
I agree, its simply a mixed bag of feelings. I just hope they do it right, and stay true to the original game.
EXACTLY how I'm feeling.
There, there elysia, don't worry, if they (CD) mess it up I WILL be forming a lynch mob... :cen:
I think you can count both me and Elysia in on that one, and probably some others.. Fondant', TR Freak, Mattster - though he hasn't played TR1 I'm sure he'd be angry ;)
TombRaiderLover
17-06-06, 10:29
I hope this game will be good!!!!
AnthonyShock1515
17-06-06, 10:30
Oh
My God
I cant beleve it, is there any info on what it is, a remake or what?
I ant belive it, its an excellent suprise for me to have just woken up to!
ChineseDragon
17-06-06, 10:35
Oh
My God
I cant beleve it, is there any info on what it is, a remake or what?
I ant belive it, its an excellent suprise for me to have just woken up to!
It's a remake of TR1, hopefully also TR2.
It's a remake of TR1, hopefully also TR2.
Hopefully. Figers crossed :D:D:D:D
Dont worry, i'm sure its in good hands with CD.
Like Legend was? Sorry but no. I dont want another Tomb Raider from them thank you. :mad:
Like Legend was? Sorry but no. I dont want another Tomb Raider from them thank you. :mad:
äh.. en minäkää.. mut saa nähä.. ainaki ne nyt kuuntelee tarkasti mitä me halutaa :)
ChineseDragon
17-06-06, 12:02
Like Legend was? Sorry but no. I dont want another Tomb Raider from them thank you. :mad:
Then don't buy it. ;)
Like Legend was? Sorry but no. I dont want another Tomb Raider from them thank you. :mad:
Looks like Tomb Raider franchise just lost a buyer. :(
Looks like Tomb Raider franchise just lost a buyer. :(
...and they will probably loose a lot more if this game doesnt meet up to expectations. A LOT more.
Looks like people can't understand that Crystal Dynamics has never made games like Tomb Raider before Legend. With all criticism i'm pretty sure they can do better. People should wait until the 10th anniversary edition is released before they start complaining. Legend was an awesome game for being thier first attempt to make a Tomb Raider game.
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