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conorcroft2001
17-06-06, 00:31
Peeps,
I got a feeling that the TR:AE story will tie into Legend's story, maybe even just after it!
You never know!
:yah: :tmb: :jmp: :jmp: :jmp: :jmp: :hug: :hug: :hug: :yah: :tmb::yah: :tmb::yah: :tmb:
Conor
fondantcookie
17-06-06, 00:35
I hope not....
They changed too much of Laras past for my likeing...
mind you...maybe this is there way to finally put the last nail in the coffin to old lara....
no that wouldnt make sence i dont think lol
" oh sod u mother i dont care if ya trapped in avalon i'm off to find a scion for natla"
:D
no that wouldnt make sence i dont think lol
" oh sod u mother i dont care if ya trapped in avalon i'm off to find a scion for natla"
:D
He, he! :vlol:
WhosaidAODwasbad
17-06-06, 01:50
Mostlikely, No but if anything it would be subtle and nothing too drastic!
change the backstory? Heavens no! Thats on my list of 'things I dont want to see in the remake'. Besides, it wouldnt be true to the original then, would it?
fondantcookie
17-06-06, 01:57
I wonder if they'll rewrite her biography slightly to incorporate TRs 1 and 2...
In my opinion, it was silly to change it in the first place...especailly given the popularity of the classics...
And if this/these remake/s are successful....chances there are there'll be incentive to remake number three also...
In which case...the initial re-write is unnecessary !!!
..just a thought...
PirateRose
17-06-06, 01:59
Just out of curiousty, what did they change with Lara's history? I mean, yeah so they went all the way back to the start and added a new adventure. Lara writes numerous books on her adventures, and don't you think she's had more adventures then the ones in 1-6?
Please, just tell me what they changed because I can't seem to find it or see it or something.
WhosaidAODwasbad
17-06-06, 03:20
Well nothing really changed, she did crash in the himilayas in both except in the original she was like 18-20 years old not sure and her husband died in the crash! Instead of her mother and lara being like 10 years old! or whatever!
Moon-Safari
17-06-06, 03:26
her fiance died in the plane in the comic books only. i think thats what got people confused. but in the origional booklett it doesnt say her fiance was in the plane.
WhosaidAODwasbad
17-06-06, 03:30
her fiance died in the plane in the comic books only. i think thats what got people confused. but in the origional booklett it doesnt say her fiance was in the plane.
You probably right I'll go read it again!
Well for sure...they shouldn't change anything else in the audio department..they're fine as they are and pure original...and the beautiful soundtrack too...
WhosaidAODwasbad
17-06-06, 03:44
Introduction from TR 1 booklet from Core Designs LTD. and Eidos Interactive
Lara Croft, daughter of Lord Henshingly Croft, was raised to be an aristrocrat from birth. After attending finishing school at the age of 21, Lara's marriage into wealth had seemed assured, but on her way home from a skiing trip her chartered plane had crashed deep in the heart of the Himalayas. The only survivor, Lara learned how to depend on her wits to stay alive in hostile conditions a world away from her sheltered upbringing. 2 weeks later when she walked into the villiage of Tokakeriby her experiences had had a profound effect on her. Unable to stand the claustrophobic suffocating atmosphere of upper-class British society, she realized that she was only ruly alive when she was travelling alone. Over the 8 following years she acquired an intimate knowledge of ancient civilizations across the globe. Her family soon disowned their prodigal daughter, and she turned to writing to fun her trips. Famed for discovering several ancient sites of profound archaeological interest she made a name for herself by publishing travel books and detailed journals of her exploits.
THE END
Maybe the timeline will be:
TR7
TR8
TR1
TR2
Good find! And daddy wasn't originally an acheologist, that changed in the movies. Seems legend continued with that as lara refers to him being right about his finding, etc. And was at "his" dig sites... The whole mommy story and finding her is what all her expeditions have been about is a new twist to legend too. Not in any of the previous 6 was lara's tomb raiding about finding out what happened to mommy. It was just a plot supporter in legend alone.
VonCroy360
17-06-06, 06:52
I know... we will find out that Natla is actually Lara's mother! :D
Anyway, not good idea - never mix tr1 with trl...
Actually they could tie in. Still keeping Tomb Raider 1 as happening some time in Legend Lara's past, but slightly change maybe the look of the scion, and some of the Atlantean technology we see in the prison FMV and hey presto, you have a connection to certain artifacts we saw in Legend. If the timeline for legend is acknowledged as connecting to the original Tomb Raider 1 then it would explain the Natla crates, and Lara or Amanda could have something to do with Natla Industries in Tomb Raider 8
*shivers*
PLEASE! Don't mention amanda and TR1 in the same breath! :eek: Could you imagine that brainless twit running around in her stupid playful mode in TR1??? :hea:
illuminati30
17-06-06, 08:45
This is possible seeing as TRL was set after one, but i dont want them to change the story like this. After all Lara said 'this is what its always been about' Thats good enough.
Well if they do tie in, who do you think brought the Natla crates to the Bolivia site????? You will not see Amanda in the remake, she has nothing to do with Tomb Raider 1
Well if they do tie in, who do you think brought the Natla crates to the Bolivia site????? You will not see Amanda in the remake, she has nothing to do with Tomb Raider 1
There better not even be a sign of a hair of her's in the game... or I'll be searching for a code to blow her up! :vlol:
I hope they just keep Tr1 as Tr1. I actually dislike the idea of connecting Tr1 and legend in any way, and that's the polite way of saying it.
Well we have the same team doing both games, and we will have Atlantis in both games, as Atlantis will be in Tomb Raider 8 or 9. Now either they are going to make some similarities in the technology of Atlantis in both, or they are going to completely deny that Lara had ever been to Atlantis previously in the Legend time line. Which do you think would be easier, and would please the fans the most? Look at the prison FMV from Tomb Raider 1, really how much change would it take to remind you of the ancient artifacts in Legend, they are going to update the graphics anyway so they can change it to what they like, but it would not take much
O man to even think about this, tieing in with Legend - shouldn't they just LEAVE IT as IT IS?!!? I don't want any connection with LEGEND as for this one!!...it wouldn't truly be an anniversary edition if they add all of what's in Legend...if they only do what they like, that's gonna be harsh for the fans:( ...when they made Legend, they said they backtracked all the games and stuff to see what fans enjoys most about TR and stuff - - was that for Legend or for the planning of the 10th Anniversary edition??
WhosaidAODwasbad
17-06-06, 15:19
Ok this is how they solve the problem, Ok no tie in from the remake to legend! But if they do account for TR 1 in the sequels to legend then maybe she could have flash backs if she goes to atlantis! Then you wouldn't be messing with TR1 story just the Legend sequels. If they tied it in using only the sequels to legend I think it would be cool and better then add to TR 1 to link it to legend it should be the other way around if anything!
They would not need to change anything with the original story, it happened before Legend, it is only the look of certain Atlantean artifacts that need to change slightly, so there is some continuity, obviously none of you bothered to look at the FMV! And you are not capable of grasping the idea, so l will give up
GodOfLight
17-06-06, 19:18
I sometimes wish TRL had never happened. simply because the bio change caused such an enormous rip in the series.
why did CD have to be soooooo stupid? :(
:confused: Don't really get what you mean Aussie, I don't see why they'd have to change the Scion at all.
Plus:
Well we have the same team doing both games, and we will have Atlantis in both games, as Atlantis will be in Tomb Raider 8 or 9.
Don't you mean Avalon? They're two different places.
fondantcookie
17-06-06, 19:23
I sometimes wish TRL had never happened. simply because the bio change caused such an enormous rip in the series.
why did CD have to be soooooo stupid? :(
My sentiments exactly...
I wish the movie had never come along, to be honest. Or, at least, I don't mind it being there, I just hate the fact that Crystal Dynamics have taken it to be canon. It's a hollywood movie, for goodness sake! Hollywoodisms (such as mummy being dead, daddy being dead, family, love, slush, blah. blah. blah.) have no place in the Tomb Raider games. I loved Lara's old past. It was so much more original, and so much more British. :D
Anyway, that wasn't really on topic. I hope your theory isn't true, Conor.
I have the feeling that TR 10th anniversery edition will tie up with TR1 something like POPTTT ties up with POPSOT in the end or tie up Legend with TR1
illuminati30
17-06-06, 21:17
I wish the movie had never come along, to be honest. Or, at least, I don't mind it being there, I just hate the fact that Crystal Dynamics have taken it to be canon. It's a hollywood movie, for goodness sake! Hollywoodisms (such as mummy being dead, daddy being dead, family, love, slush, blah. blah. blah.) have no place in the Tomb Raider games. I loved Lara's old past. It was so much more original, and so much more British. :D
Anyway, that wasn't really on topic. I hope your theory isn't true, Conor.
My thoughts exactly !
http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showthread.php?t=66733
conorcroft2001
17-06-06, 21:46
I personally hope that they all tie together!
I think the games should be linked together!
Conor
thepetemaster
17-06-06, 23:05
The games were all linked together and then CD changed the whole backstory! Tying the remake - the original origin story - into TR8 - now that would be plain silly, all things considered.
The remake has nothing to do with Tomb Raider 8, the original story happened before Tomb Raider Legend, maybe not ten years before in Lara Croft time but it was an earlier adventure
I don't see why they would create a link between the older games and Legend given that they UNNECESSARILY changed key elements of Lara's back story. I don't see why they did it in either the movies or in Legend, but it seems to me like they chanegd the whole back story to fit into a pre-concieved storyline, ratehr than the other way around, which it SHOULD have been.
No - the originals and Legend are two different entities completely.
They changed her back story and motivation - they already burned the bridges.
The games were all linked together and then CD changed the whole backstory! Tying the remake - the original origin story - into TR8 - now that would be plain silly, all things considered.
I don't think the remake is TR 8. TR8 should be Legend's continuation. Maybe thats somewhere in between or TR0 or TR6.5 :D
No - the originals and Legend are two different entities completely.
They changed her back story and motivation - they already burned the bridges.
Exactly. I really hope they don't consider Legend as canon for the remake. Legend could just be a bad dream Lara had one night. ;)
haagen-dazs
18-06-06, 12:15
That won't happen. TR:AE is a 1 off special.
This one comes after the 1st 3 cos' in the book it says about brakin into Area Whatever Its Called.
TRhistorian
18-06-06, 20:50
Peeps,
I got a feeling that the TR:AE story will tie into Legend's story, maybe even just after it!
You never know!
:yah: :tmb: :jmp: :jmp: :jmp: :jmp: :hug: :hug: :hug: :yah: :tmb::yah: :tmb::yah: :tmb:
Conor
If they do, and they even touch the story line, I will never buy anything that says Eidos or Crystal Dynamics on it. I would never forgive them.
Peeps,
I got a feeling that the TR:AE story will tie into Legend's story, maybe even just after it!
You never know!
:yah: :tmb: :jmp: :jmp: :jmp: :jmp: :hug: :hug: :hug: :yah: :tmb::yah: :tmb::yah: :tmb:
Conor
my guess is that at the end of he TRL saga-Lara will probably say something like
"Well boys whats next?"
and Zip will reply
"Well we got a call from Natla technologies...they want to set up a meeting"
I really hope not.. TR1 is unique and has NOTHING to do with Legend, if they change it so it does, I would be mad.
AdamTheInept
18-06-06, 23:41
I really hope not.. TR1 is unique and has NOTHING to do with Legend, if they change it so it does, I would be mad.
Actually... Tomb Raider 1 DOES have something to do with Legend... it contains Lara Croft... and unless all the adventures from each game take place in parallel universes, then they all happened within her life.
I dont see the problem with having a lil tie-in to the other games. It's kind of a nod to the fans who've played through all of them.
And wasnt Legend supposed to take place between 1 and 2?
Actually... Tomb Raider 1 DOES have something to do with Legend... it contains Lara Croft... and unless all the adventures from each game take place in parallel universes, then they all happened within her life.
I dont see the problem with having a lil tie-in to the other games. It's kind of a nod to the fans who've played through all of them.
And wasnt Legend supposed to take place between 1 and 2?
I meant it has nothing to do with Legend's storyline, but then again, Legend Lara is nothing like the TR1 Lara, she's way too emotional and way too peppy. And Legend has no place at all between TR1-TR6, it's just there.
conorcroft2001
18-06-06, 23:50
I certainly hope they kinda implement the stories together - a bit like Legacy Of Kain!
Conor
I meant it has nothing to do with Legend's storyline, but then again, Legend Lara is nothing like the TR1 Lara, she's way too emotional and way too peppy. And Legend has no place at all between TR1-TR6, it's just there.
maybe what happens at the end of the TRL story turns her into the super-***** we all know and love! and i believe that Legend takes place BEFORE TR1
conorcroft2001
18-06-06, 23:52
I agree with you Genocide!
Conor
maybe what happens at the end of the TRL story turns her into the super-***** we all know and love! and i believe that Legend takes place BEFORE TR1
Exactly. :tmb: I said no place "in between" TR1-TR6. :p
Exactly. :tmb: I said no place "in between" TR1-TR6. :p
but they could eventually make it tie in with the original game...it wouldnt surprise me if they tried
Lara Croft!
19-06-06, 00:00
I hope not....
They changed too much of Laras past for my likeing...
Yep...I agree...
Btw...The thread title prepared me for an apocalypse....But....:D
WhosaidAODwasbad
19-06-06, 00:36
To do so they would have to rewrite Tomb Raider Legends history again to link it! It is very unlikely especially since her original bio says that her family shunned her including good ole mom and dad! And its her own house not the family mansion she lives in. If they do though hopefully its a tie in from legend to TR1 not from the remake of TR1 to legend that would really screw up the original story. If they tie it in using the new TRL story though it wouldn't mess with the old!
Hmm, I wonder if Paramont cut a deal with Eidos to gear legend more towards the "movie" theme....for the upcoming movie3 [if they do it]. They may have cut a deal, for a hefty price of course. :p
The mansion did kinda linked up in the game...but maybe that was only for the house sake (but then again...in Cradle of Life, Lara croft did had instant communication between herself and the Manor...
To do so they would have to rewrite Tomb Raider Legends history again to link it! It is very unlikely especially since her original bio says that her family shunned her including good ole mom and dad!
But Lara's history changed when TR:TLR was released-in the original game manual it said she was shunned because she wanted to pursue a career in archeology, after she realised she preferred bieng on an adventure rather than bieng a good girl and getting married etc.
And yet in TR:TLR she demands to go on an archeological...adventure with Von Croy and her father has no problem with it.
If the story were to remain the same throughout the series then her father would have had no problem with her lifestyle change after her crash in the Himalayas that was told to us in the TR1 manual
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I hope to god that made sense
It does make sense - that bit always confused me and I was actually quite angry when I read the introduction to that game.
But that can still be worked into the original story (even though it's a bit of a stretch) - the storyline in Legend is just too much of a departure that it would have to be seriously contrived to make a link - it just wouldn't be worth it IMHO.
The storyline in Legend doesn't need TR1 to exist - it doesn't even acknowledge anything about it - it follows the movie storyline instead (right down to the fact that they changed her father's name and who he was).
It annoys me so much because I'm such a completist, but we just have to accept the fact that the originals and the movies/Legend are two separate universes and it would just add another level of confusion to try and link the two, as ONE of them would have to be changed. This wouldn't be a good idea for either given that original Tomb Raider fans would be angry that they tampered with TR1's storyline, and it would be too confusing for Legend fans to change the storyline only months after the game was released.
knightgames
19-06-06, 12:26
my guess is that at the end of he TRL saga-Lara will probably say something like
"Well boys whats next?"
and Zip will reply
"Well we got a call from Natla technologies...they want to set up a meeting"
BWAAHAHAHA Ha Ha Ha Ha!!!!!!!! FUNNY....
Meet this guy named Lars at the local coffee shoppe, and he'll give you further instructions from Miss Natla. I've done a search on Natla industries. They're BIG into genetics and bio-engineering. They have multi-national billion dollar contracts. They seem clean, but I don't know, Lara. Be careful.
knightgames
19-06-06, 12:32
I just watched TR on DVD the other night. I was taken aback by how much her mansion resembles the one in TRL. It even had the glass enclosed area where the 'annoying one' works his computer magic.
I was actually mentally mapping the room to see the main doors and the two side doors (the ones that dont open).....the glass wall and the staircase, and the 2nd floor hallways.
If CD was really trying to copy it, "not too shabby guys."
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