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raiderfun
27-09-06, 14:44
In this thread, we will talk about the graphics concerning the games , especially next gen games ! :)
If anyone has a question , he's/she's the welcome :)
I'll ask the first question :
Do you think that the wii can display graphics such the PS3 ???? :confused:


Personally , i say no .
See this !


This is a game called "wii sports" , it will be released with the wii ! :)
http://images.elotrolado.net/news2/110506105158_2big.jpg
And this is a game called afrika which will be released on the PS3 :
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/7088/afrip3003ad1.jpg







Of course , the difference is huge and amazing , that's why i ask this question .
Post your answers and opinions please :)

K.J
27-09-06, 14:47
Of course Wii will not have graphics like PS3 and X360, but that's not what Nintendo is focusing on.

Legend of Lara
27-09-06, 14:47
No worries, Wii will have awesome graphics. Wii Sports just isn't the ideal game to showcase it's power. :wve: (I never thought I'd post those two sentences :p)

Autolycus
27-09-06, 15:00
I'll have to say i'll have to sit on the fence regarding this matter :D

raiderfun
27-09-06, 15:04
@K.J :if nintendo was focusing on this , they won't create games with low graphics ! All the games , which i saw have the same problem . Except sadness , which we don't know the game exactly !
@legend : All the PS3 games are great graphicly , and like i mentionned above , there's no game with high graphics available on the wii ! :wve:

Cochrane
27-09-06, 15:05
The Wii is a powerful machine, and it should be able to outperform Xbox 1 and PlayStation 2, but Nintendo has no chance (and does not seem to be interested in) competing with Microsoft's current and Sony's next generation on technical terms.

Obviously, if we take that statement word for word, the Wii can display exactly the same cool graphics as the PS3 can - only that it has to rely on pre-rendered movies.

raiderfun
27-09-06, 15:22
Cochrane, yes the wii is a powerful machine , yes it can outperform the PS2/Xbox1 .

But for this :
the Wii can display exactly the same cool graphics as the PS3
Soory , i cannot agree :(

Betal
27-09-06, 15:32
Cochrane, yes the wii is a powerful machine , yes it can outperform the PS2/Xbox1 .



ERMMM wii is a next generation machine<.< It's mych better graphic then ps2 and xbox. Cause game cube had graphic like ps2 and xbox.......

raiderfun
27-09-06, 15:33
ERMMM wii is a next generation machine<.< It's mych better graphic then ps2 and xbox. Cause game cube had graphic like ps2 and xbox.......
This is right .
But we'll find at least a smalll difference :)

Betal
27-09-06, 15:36
This is right .
But we'll find at least a smalll difference :)


I think I readed wrong. I though you said wii only have graphic like ps2 and xbox:p I'm so bad in english>.<



And maybe this game is just a test
http://images.elotrolado.net/news2/110506105158_2big.jpg

Cause games to wii like the new zelda have MUCH better graphic

raiderfun
27-09-06, 15:40
I think I readed wrong. I though you said wii only have graphic like ps2 and xbox:p I'm so bad in english>.<



And maybe this game is just a test
http://images.elotrolado.net/news2/110506105158_2big.jpg

Cause games to wii like the new zelda have MUCH better graphic
surely !!! ;) ;) ;)
This is not a test ! This is game (a gift) when you buy the wii !
Zelda is very nice graphicly !
BTW , don't forget betal , to read is an irregular verb ! ;) :wve:

Alive_and_Funky
27-09-06, 15:42
Apparently, the graphics of the Wii will be closer to the first Xbox's graphics. :)

raiderfun
27-09-06, 15:45
Apparently, the graphics of the Wii will be closer to the first Xbox's graphics. :)
Exactly ! And a little better than the NGC and the PS2 !
Personnaly, nintendo was able to do better than this :whi: :whi: :whi:

Alive_and_Funky
27-09-06, 15:49
Exactly ! And a little better than the NGC and the PS2 !
Personnaly, nintendo was able to do better than this :whi: :whi: :whi:
Well, they were obviously working on the controller and not the graphical capabilities. Judging by the success of the DS, I predict that the Wii shall be popular among gamers and non-gamers alike.

raiderfun
27-09-06, 15:51
Well, they were obviously working on the controller and not the graphical capabilities. Judging by the success of the DS, I predict that the Wii shall be popular among gamers and non-gamers alike.
the controller is incredible !!!! and yes the wii shall be popular , that's right ! :)

da tomb raider!
27-09-06, 16:00
I think the the Wii's graphics will not be bad, and will certainly be better than the PSOne's graphics, but I can't imagine it being any better than a PS2 or X-Box's graphics. Although it's a Next-Gen console, Nintendo don't seem to be focusing on that good graphics right now.

Mad Tony
27-09-06, 16:00
Well, they were obviously working on the controller and not the graphical capabilities. Judging by the success of the DS, I predict that the Wii shall be popular among gamers and non-gamers alike.
Yeah.
It's more like virtual simulation machine than a gaming console! :D

raiderfun
27-09-06, 16:02
I think the the Wii's graphics will not be bad, and will certainly be better than the PSOne's graphics.
I loved this jesse :vlol: :vlol: :vlol:

Alive_and_Funky
27-09-06, 16:02
Yeah.
It's more like virtual simulation machine than a gaming console! :D
R.I.P Gametrak. LOL

interstellardave
27-09-06, 16:44
Wii graphics WILL be quite a bit better than PS2, Xbox or Gamecube. People saying it will be about the same as the Xbox are forgetting that in many ways the Gamecubes' graphics were the equal of the Xbox--and were certainly better than the PS2. At the same time Wii graphics will fall quite a bit short of the PS3 and Xbox 360. As many correctly state that's not what Nintendo is aiming for--and it's why their console will be the most affordable. If you compare the graphics of the DS to the PSP it's laughable at times; yet the DS is really kicking the PSP's butt sales-wise. Nintendo knows what they're doing...

badboy70
27-09-06, 17:01
and Red Steel for the Wii will have awesome graphics too :D

Alive_and_Funky
27-09-06, 18:12
Wii graphics WILL be quite a bit better than PS2, Xbox or Gamecube. People saying it will be about the same as the Xbox are forgetting that in many ways the Gamecubes' graphics were the equal of the Xbox--and were certainly better than the PS2. At the same time Wii graphics will fall quite a bit short of the PS3 and Xbox 360. As many correctly state that's not what Nintendo is aiming for--and it's why their console will be the most affordable. If you compare the graphics of the DS to the PSP it's laughable at times; yet the DS is really kicking the PSP's butt sales-wise. Nintendo knows what they're doing...
I heard from this thing called GameCentral which is on Teletext in the UK (I'm not sure if other countries get Teletext) that the graphics would be closer to the Xbox's graphics than to the PS3 and Xbox 360's. I'm not sure how close though.
I agree that the GameCube's graphics were better than the PS2's. I have both consoles and the graphics on Super Mario Sunshine are drop-dead gorgeous.

Mad Tony
27-09-06, 18:14
I heard from this thing called GameCentral which is on Teletext in the UK (I'm not sure if other countries get Teletext) that the graphics would be closer to the Xbox's graphics than to the PS3 and Xbox 360's. I'm not sure how close though.
I agree that the GameCube's graphics were better than the PS2's. I have both consoles and the graphics on Super Mario Sunshine are drop-dead gorgeous.
You're saying the graphics on Gamecube is better than PS2?

Alive_and_Funky
27-09-06, 18:16
You're saying the graphics on Gamecube is better than PS2?
In general, but you get bad-looking games on either console. Super Mario Sunshine's graphics are much more gorgeous than any PS2 graphics I've seen though.

Mad Tony
27-09-06, 18:18
In general, but you get bad-looking games on either console. Super Mario Sunshine's graphics are much more gorgeous than any PS2 graphics I've seen though.
I beg to differ.
It may be just that game that has better graphics.
The graphics for most games look relatively the same between the consoles.

Night Crawler
27-09-06, 18:18
You're saying the graphics on Gamecube is better than PS2?
They are. All you have to do is compare the PS2 version of Resident Evil 4 to the GC version..

Mad Tony
27-09-06, 18:18
They are. All you have to do is compare the PS2 version of Resident Evil 4 to the GC version..
But that's just one game.

Alive_and_Funky
27-09-06, 18:19
I beg to differ.
It may just that gamr that has better graphics.
The graphics for most games look relatively the same between the consoles.
Have you actually played Super Mario Sunshine though? It might not look better in screenshots, but when you've seen it in action for itself it looks wonderful.

Night Crawler
27-09-06, 18:20
But that's just one game.
So?

It's been proven time and again that the GC is more superior, graphic-wise than the PS2.

Mad Tony
27-09-06, 18:20
Have you actually played Super Mario Sunshine though? It might not look better in screenshots, but when you've seen it in action for itself it looks wonderful.
That's what I said.
It may just be Mario that has better graphics.

@NC: Like when?

Night Crawler
27-09-06, 18:23
@NC: Like when? Try googling the hardware specs or something, I can't be bothered to run around gathering sources of information.

It's a fact that PS2 is the weakest of all last gen systems, with Xbox being the most powerful.

Alive_and_Funky
27-09-06, 18:26
That's what I said.
It may just be Mario that has better graphics.
There are many other games too, such as WWE Day of Reckoning 2 and Star Wars Rogue Leader: Rebel Strike.

UNDERTAKER
27-09-06, 18:26
Order of power

1. Xbox
2. Gamecube
3. PS2

Mad Tony
27-09-06, 18:26
Try googling the hardware specs or something, I can't be bothered to run around gathering sources of information.

It's a fact that PS2 is the weakest of all last gen systems, with Xbox being the most powerful.
I knew Xbox was most powerful.
I'll look it up.
But not all games have better graphics on the Gamecube.

Alive_and_Funky
27-09-06, 18:28
I knew Xbox was most powerful.
I'll look it up.
But not all games have better graphics on the Gamecube.
That's true. Metal Gear Solid 2's graphics are better than Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes's, even though the prior was released first.

Night Crawler
27-09-06, 18:28
I knew Xbox was most powerful.
I'll look it up.
But not all games have better graphics on the Gamecube.But most of them do because the Gamecube is capable of better graphics than the PS2. Of course there are some crappy looking games, all consoles have them.

VonCroy360
27-09-06, 18:29
Wii isn't next gen when considering the graphics. They are better then the GameCube ones, but not like the PS3's...

I think Wii is only considered next-gen with 360 and PS3 because of its, lets say revolutionary controlling. :)

interstellardave
27-09-06, 18:43
I knew Xbox was most powerful.
I'll look it up.
But not all games have better graphics on the Gamecube.

Overall, Gamecube graphics are better than PS2's though. The best graphics on the PS2 are eclipsed by games on the Cube and Xbox...

Mad Tony
27-09-06, 18:45
Overall, Gamecube graphics are better than PS2's though. The best graphics on the PS2 are eclipsed by games on the Cube and Xbox...
What about Metal Gear Solid 3?
That has awesome graphics.

interstellardave
27-09-06, 18:49
What about Metal Gear Solid 3?
That has awesome graphics.

Last I heard RE 4 on the Gamecube was regarded as the best graphics for any game. The PS2 version (although it looks great) is actually noticably lacking in many areas. This may have changed (RE 4 being the best graphics) but developers have all said that the Cube is nearly as capable as the XBox and, in terms of actual games, it shows. PS2 games suffer in comparison although, when looked at by themselves, can be quite beautiful. I have all 3 systems, BTW. ;)

EDIT: Obviously I haven't played every game, but to me the best PS2 graphics were God Of War... my personal choice from games I've played on the system. It's gorgeous in 480p!

raiderfun
27-09-06, 23:36
Ok , i'm back :)
After , all , the xbox1 is the best one in graphics for the current consoles , and the Ngc follow it , after it's the turn of the PS2
And now , things has been changed !
it's the PS3 the first , and then xbox360 and finally the NGC , ninteno could done better , but they're really instead of the gameplay , they prefer the gameplay than the graphics.
And yes RE on GC is better graphicly than ps version ;)

Cochrane
28-09-06, 08:20
Cochrane, yes the wii is a powerful machine , yes it can outperform the PS2/Xbox1 .

But for this :

Soory , i cannot agree :(

What I meant is: Make a movie of the PS3's graphics, put that on a disc that the Wii can read, then it will display the same graphics. Only not in real time.

By the way, I think that Nintendo is not only focusing on "anything but graphics" because they want to, I'm quite certain that they simply cannot risk spending the kind of money that Sony and Microsoft put in their respective consoles.

Winston_the_butler
28-09-06, 12:03
i find it funny that, the PS3 is about to flip their location on that list. power-wise

1. PS3
2. Xbox 360
3. Wii

Samsdad
28-09-06, 13:38
Now that microsoft has announced that the 360 will run 1080p then the difference between it and the PS3 is going to be negligiable(sp?)

UNDERTAKER
28-09-06, 14:20
I can remember at E3 2005, Ken Kutaragi said that the PS3 was 2x the power of the Xbox 360! LMAO! We all know that just aint true. PS3 is more powerful yes, but the difference is marginal according to developers.

Obviously just an attempt to stop folks from buying the 360...

Alive_and_Funky
28-09-06, 16:06
I can remember at E3 2005, Ken Kutaragi said that the PS3 was 2x the power of the Xbox 360! LMAO! We all know that just aint true. PS3 is more powerful yes, but the difference is marginal according to developers.

Obviously just an attempt to stop folks from buying the 360...
I have also heard that Ken Kutaragi said that the PS3 would be 4D. :vlol:

HELLOfromRUSSIA)
28-09-06, 16:27
PS3<Xbox360

MGS4 (PS3) :vlol: - PS2 forever:vlol: Like Kill Switch PS2 version:vlol:
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/8563/8990002cq4.th.jpg (http://img62.imageshack.us/my.php?image=8990002cq4.jpg)http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/66/4144142006092207155316biggy8.th.jpg (http://img181.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4144142006092207155316biggy8.jpg)
Heavenly Sword (PS3) - this is the best PS3 graphics
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/8383/6440002ak0.th.jpg (http://img147.imageshack.us/my.php?image=6440002ak0.jpg)


Kane and Lynch Dead Man:) (Xbox360/PC)
http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/6898/screen5pm8.th.jpg (http://img157.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screen5pm8.jpg)http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/8379/screen1sm2.th.jpg (http://img157.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screen1sm2.jpg)
BioShock (Xbox360/PC)
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/4476/5yw4.th.jpg (http://img181.imageshack.us/my.php?image=5yw4.jpg)http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/816/92491920060509screen002wr4.th.jpg (http://img71.imageshack.us/my.php?image=92491920060509screen002wr4.jpg)

UNDERTAKER
28-09-06, 16:29
I have also heard that Ken Kutaragi said that the PS3 would be 4D. :vlol:

He also said PS3 could run games at 120fps.... :D

HELLOfromRUSSIA)
28-09-06, 17:16
http://www.thisiswaiting.com/x2.jpg
:vlol:
Sorry, But PS3 looks like the most biggest next-gen persecution 2006, especially bad graphics, empty GT HD(full PS3 network cars/tracks downlod~360$), 4 launch games(Three from them - multiplatform) and 600 euro :vlol:
P.S Start of the console will be only in America and Japan - the Europe, wait still a 0,5 of year

raiderfun
28-09-06, 23:46
Who can speaks japaness here , emmm , i'm confused :confused: :confused: :confused:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJ4-P068cZ0

Mad Tony
29-09-06, 06:03
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/66/4144142006092207155316biggy8.th.jpg (http://img181.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4144142006092207155316biggy8.jpg)

:vlol:
MGS4 is gonna be awesome!

raiderfun
29-09-06, 17:21
:vlol:
MGS4 is gonna be awesome!
SURELY !!!
If you have some game's pics don't forget to post them here :)

The most amazing of course is crysis on PC :
http://www.gamemag.ru/pics/13328-crysis_tech_demo3.jpg
http://ve3dmedia.ign.com/ve3d/image/article/699/699011/more-crysis-media-and-info-20060329014433363.jpg
http://files.xboxic.com/xbox-360/crysis/shack-thumb.jpg
AND F.E.A.R on PS3 :cln: :cln: :
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/p3/f/e/fearp3004.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/p3/f/e/fearp3001.jpg


Enjoy !!! :wve:

Mad Tony
29-09-06, 17:38
SURELY !!!
If you have some game's pics don't forget to post them here :)
http://files.xboxic.com/xbox-360/crysis/shack-thumb.jpg



Enjoy !!! :wve:
How comes it says Xbox360 on the image tag?
And Xbox on the picture?

badboy70
29-09-06, 17:40
oh i love Crytek and their engine. just like Far Cry, i love. i must have Crysis :D

Samsdad
29-09-06, 17:45
How comes it says Xbox360 on the image tag?
And Xbox on the picture?

I think that is from the site he got that pictures from. Crysis is a PC only game right now and Crytex hasn't even started looking at ports to consoles yet.

Mad Tony
29-09-06, 17:50
I think that is from the site he got that pictures from. Crysis is a PC only game right now and Crytex hasn't even started looking at ports to consoles yet.
But the graphics are amazing.
You're gonna need a damn good computer to run it like that.

badboy70
29-09-06, 20:01
But the graphics are amazing.
You're gonna need a damn good computer to run it like that.yeah,i bet you need the newest hardware AND vista to run it

illuminati30
29-09-06, 20:32
Graphics are not important! People today are sooo obsessed with how things look! All i wanna do is have some fun. I got a feeling i'm not the only one!

Wii sports is just a fun game, that comes free with the Wii, and that character you play is Mii. Mii is a cartoon representation of yourself, that you make, then play in games.

Have a lookie at some Wii Sports bowling:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=YUlGbOclXZs

and tell me it does not look fun.

The Wii will be 2 X the power of GC. The GC is already a mighty powerful console, graphics wise. Don't believe me? Play Metroid, or Resident Evil remake, Zero, or 4!

The Wii will still be plenty powerful for everything you would ever want it to do.

illuminati30
29-09-06, 20:34
No worries, Wii will have awesome graphics. Wii Sports just isn't the ideal game to showcase it's power. :wve: (I never thought I'd post those two sentences :p)

:yik:

What has happened to you my lad? Did some hand you a DS with Sonic Rush? :tmb: :D

Mad Tony
29-09-06, 20:41
yeah,i bet you need the newest hardware AND vista to run it
Minimum Requirements:

1024mb RAM
3.0Ghz Processor
One of the latest graphics drivers :p
50GB Hard Drive

:p

badboy70
30-09-06, 15:59
Minimum Requirements:

1024mb RAM
3.0Ghz Processor
One of the latest graphics drivers :p
50GB Hard Drive

:p50 GB :o oh well, my PC can handle that :D ihope my graphics car will be good enough :). what about the OS , XP or Vista?
edit :i found this :

Minimum Crysis System Requirements
CPU: Athlon 64 3000+/Intel 2.8ghz
Graphics: Nvidia 6600/X800GTO (SM 2.0)
RAM: 768Mb/1Gb on Windows Vista
HDD: 6GB
Internet: 256k+
Optical Drive: DVD
Software: DX9.0c with Windows XP

Recommended Crysis System Requirements
CPU: Dual-core CPU (Athlon X2/Pentium D)
Graphics: Nvidia 7800GTX/ATI X1800XT (SM 3.0) or DX10 equivalent
RAM: 1.5Gb
HDD: 6GB
Internet: 512k+ (128k+ upstream)
Optical Drive: DVD
Software: DX10 with Windows Vista

i think my plans for cryis are : buy a 15 GB HD for Vista and Crysis ,buy a new graphics card . i think the graphics card will cost the most

Mad Tony
30-09-06, 16:15
50 GB :o oh well, my PC can handle that :D ihope my graphics car will be good enough :). what about the OS , XP or Vista?
edit :i found this :

Minimum Crysis System Requirements
CPU: Athlon 64 3000+/Intel 2.8ghz
Graphics: Nvidia 6600/X800GTO (SM 2.0)
RAM: 768Mb/1Gb on Windows Vista
HDD: 6GB
Internet: 256k+
Optical Drive: DVD
Software: DX9.0c with Windows XP

Recommended Crysis System Requirements
CPU: Dual-core CPU (Athlon X2/Pentium D)
Graphics: Nvidia 7800GTX/ATI X1800XT (SM 3.0) or DX10 equivalent
RAM: 1.5Gb
HDD: 6GB
Internet: 512k+ (128k+ upstream)
Optical Drive: DVD
Software: DX10 with Windows Vista

i think my plans for cryis are : buy a 15 GB for Vista and Crysis buy a new graphics card . i think the graphics card will cost the most

Woah! :eek:
Those are some monster requirements!

badboy70
30-09-06, 16:17
Woah! :eek:
Those are some monster requirements!told you ^.^

Mad Tony
30-09-06, 16:20
told you ^.^
I don't think that game's gonna sell well.

badboy70
30-09-06, 16:24
I don't think that game's gonna sell well.after a few months whenit comes it it might will sell good, because people will have better PC's by then :D

amiro1989
30-09-06, 16:25
Guys you should see the new screens for Red Steel on Nintendo Wii, the graphics have benn optimised, and the result is amazing.

www.generationwii.com

Scroll down a litlle and you find the new screens.

BTW: Those are not CG, they are in game screenshots.

badboy70
30-09-06, 16:33
Guys you should see the new screens for Red Steel on Nintendo Wii, the graphics have benn optimised, and the result is amazing.

www.generationwii.com (http://www.generationwii.com)

Scroll down a litlle and you find the new screens.

BTW: Those are not CG, they are in game screenshots.thanks for posting :D they look nice :)

Winston_the_butler
30-09-06, 16:40
according to Nivida I believe, the PS3 has more trasistors than the other competeing consoles combined. (from Gamespot.) I dont know what they do though. lol

WhosaidAODwasbad
01-10-06, 00:13
My question is now that Games are so amazing looking can you really (360 and PS3, don't get me wrong Wii is cool just not ultra powerful) tell the difference between games especially 360 and PS3? I mean yeah Lighting and shading is big but does it make more of a difference between PS3 and Xbox 360? Could this be the generation of gaming where power no longer really means anything, that games will make or break the system for sure this time around. I mean I look at Sony's 8 Days and then Gears of War they are both amazing but can you really say one looks better than the other no doubt both will have cooler things than the other.

All I can say is Publishers and Developers out there, I am defintly satisfied with the graphics I am no longer really looking for something more unless you can do it easily. With this in mind, maybe developers could use the consoles power (PS3 and XBox 360) to make games more fun and do cool things now not just look great!

raiderfun
01-10-06, 01:05
50 GB :o oh well, my PC can handle that :D ihope my graphics car will be good enough :). what about the OS , XP or Vista?
edit :i found this :

Minimum Crysis System Requirements
CPU: Athlon 64 3000+/Intel 2.8ghz
Graphics: Nvidia 6600/X800GTO (SM 2.0)
RAM: 768Mb/1Gb on Windows Vista
HDD: 6GB
Internet: 256k+
Optical Drive: DVD
Software: DX9.0c with Windows XP

Recommended Crysis System Requirements
CPU: Dual-core CPU (Athlon X2/Pentium D)
Graphics: Nvidia 7800GTX/ATI X1800XT (SM 3.0) or DX10 equivalent
RAM: 1.5Gb
HDD: 6GB
Internet: 512k+ (128k+ upstream)
Optical Drive: DVD
Software: DX10 with Windows Vista

i think my plans for cryis are : buy a 15 GB HD for Vista and Crysis ,buy a new graphics card . i think the graphics card will cost the most
EXCUSE ME ?????????? :eek: :eek: :eek:
I think they're non natural specs :cln: :cln: :cln:

HELLOfromRUSSIA)
05-10-06, 17:00
My PC is better

AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800
MSi GeForce 7800GTX 256
Kingston 2 Gb RAM 3200
Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 4 PRO

BUT, I need Windows Vista:(

raiderfun
05-10-06, 17:05
My PC is better

AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800
MSi GeForce 7800GTX 256
Kingston 2 Gb RAM 3200
Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 4 PRO

BUT, I need Windows Vista:(
cool specs russian ! :D
Yes , you need vista ! ;)

abraham
06-10-06, 01:26
My PC is better

AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800
MSi GeForce 7800GTX 256
Kingston 2 Gb RAM 3200
Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 4 PRO

BUT, I need Windows Vista:(

oh so now you upgraded.are you complaining about NEXT GEN games now, im reffering to trl for example

Marshmellow Bob
06-10-06, 02:45
i think 7 pages of nintendo vs sony bashing is silly.
more so cause of the argument about the graphics difference.

simple facts, the Nintendo Wii sports the exact same VPU as the Microsoft Xbox360

the Nintendo GameCube VPU is capable of Shader 1.4 with 16 Pipelines, when the PS2 is only capable of 2 Graphics Pipelines and no shaders so the CPU has to do that side of things.

another fact ALL nex-gen machines will support HD-TV upto 2048x1920
also the xbox and gamecube are the only 'current' generation machines that currently support HD-TV modes such as 720p and 1080i and the xbox only does it on selective games.

As far as which is the most powerful current gen console... none of them.
The ps2 is capable of pushing over 4x the polygons texture the xbox and gc can do combined, however it is incapable of shaders. In this respect graphically the gc is capable of pushing more shader polygons per pixel wish a better quality shader format, however the lack of memory in the gc means that only the xbox is capable of actually achieving it's full potencial.

the ps2 can do screen effects, such as bloom which is a popular effect in games like MGS3 which is a good way to achieve some sort of fake-hdr allowing the world to look more colourful down to it's second gpu pipeline. honestly though the MGS3 cut-scenes have nothing on MGS:TS cut-scenes which are breath-taking to say the least because of the graphics quality in them.

It's just a shame that quality wasn't kept throughout the entire game, so you get cut-scene graphics and game graphics like you get on Halo2. Difference is the gc doesn't slow down like the xbox does, even in 720p HD-TV mode.

I think this all comes down to what you prefer in the end. Personally I get quite sick an tired of the whole "my console is better than yours because..." scenario, cause tbh all it achieves is an online version of a ****ing contest.

especially when almost no-one bothers to even look for the facts

Kamrusepas
06-10-06, 02:51
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/66/4144142006092207155316biggy8.th.jpg (http://img181.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4144142006092207155316biggy8.jpg)


Poor guy will never know what hit him.

scoopy_loopy
06-10-06, 10:27
Who can speaks japaness here , emmm , i'm confused :confused: :confused: :confused:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJ4-P068cZ0

Far out! I just tried to have a go listening to and translating that, but its just way to fast! phaw!

HELLOfromRUSSIA)
06-10-06, 11:17
oh so now you upgraded.are you complaining about NEXT GEN games now, im reffering to trl for example
I have not understood sense of the offer. Can you write it another way?
(I badly know English) http://forums.gamemag.ru/images/smiles/icon_redface.gif

abraham
06-10-06, 11:44
you upgraded from a older nvidia grafix card and you COMPLAINED!!! soo badly that tomb raider legend is so slow in next gen. And i bet your not complaining now since you got a better grafix card that can handle an game.

HELLOfromRUSSIA)
06-10-06, 12:35
TR goes slowly because NIXXES badly optimized a code of game, all other next gen games on my videocard "runs". Crysis will "runs" too.

raiderfun
08-10-06, 21:24
Far out! I just tried to have a go listening to and translating that, but its just way to fast! phaw!
Yeah :(

Next question : Do you thing that the wii could display graphics such PSP ? :confused:

Your opinions ! :tmb:

K.J
08-10-06, 21:27
Yeah :(

Next question : Do you thing that the wii could display graphics such PSP ? :confused:

Your opinions ! :tmb:

Of course. Wii is much more powerfull than PSP.

Mad Tony
09-10-06, 06:14
Next question : Do you thing that the wii could display graphics such PSP ? :confused:

Yeah. :confused:
Why did you think it wouldn't be able to?

Melonie Tomb Raider
09-10-06, 09:00
raiderfun may have meant PS3... possibly.... And well, in that case, the answer is no.

HELLOfromRUSSIA)
09-10-06, 16:11
Nintendo officially spoke, that Wii is more powerful GC twice.
[RE4]x2 =http://forums.gamemag.ru/images/smiles/love10.gif

PSP - suxxxx, graphics like PSone1.5

Betal
09-10-06, 16:23
Nintendo officially spoke, that Wii is more powerful GC twice.
[RE4]x2 =http://forums.gamemag.ru/images/smiles/love10.gif

PSP - suxxxx, graphics like PSone1.5


Erm psp have much better graphic:O

Mad Tony
09-10-06, 16:32
Erm psp have much better graphic:O
Not much better, slightly better. ;)

Betal
09-10-06, 16:36
Not much better, slightly better. ;)

HMMM. I have 3 games: the sims 2, tomb raider lgened and gta libery city stories to psp asnd it's MUCH BETTER.

Mad Tony
09-10-06, 16:46
HMMM. I have 3 games: the sims 2, tomb raider lgened and gta libery city stories to psp asnd it's MUCH BETTER.

Not much difference to me:

http://www.gamingillustrated.com/images/software/psp/spiderman2psp1.jpg

http://www.mondemul.be/screens/roms/psx/Gran%20Turismo%202-PSX-PAL-CD1.jpg
:wve:

interstellardave
09-10-06, 16:52
This topic has passed the point of ridiculousness! The PSP doesn't have graphics as good as the PS2, let alone GC, Xbox or heaven forbid the Wii! Get real folks.

Dingaling
09-10-06, 16:54
The PSP can portray PS2-like graphics in motion. Sometimes in screenshots but usually that doesn't do anything for the PSP. I mean, just look at Tekken: Dark Ressurection, definitely surpasses Playstation 1 graphics.

raiderfun
09-10-06, 23:25
Not much better, slightly better. ;)
Huh , not slighty better , extremely better ;)
No , melonie i meant PSP ;)
hellofromrussia , twice time ? :confused:

BoyTRaider
10-10-06, 00:38
Nintendo officially spoke, that Wii is more powerful GC twice.
[RE4]x2 =http://forums.gamemag.ru/images/smiles/love10.gif

PSP - suxxxx, graphics like PSone1.5
But just imagine RE5 in the PS3. ;)

2kool4u
10-10-06, 00:58
the ps3's graphics rule. did any1 see the preview for the remake of turok for the ps3? that is awsome!!!:tea:

Mad Tony
10-10-06, 06:07
Huh , not slighty better , extremely better ;)

No, Hellofromsrussia was right.
It is a bit like PS 1.5.
And look at the pictutes I posted. ;)

Alive_and_Funky
10-10-06, 18:07
No, Hellofromsrussia was right.
It is a bit like PS 1.5.
And look at the pictutes I posted. ;)
I'd rather say that the PSP's graphics are more like PSP1.7 or PSP1.8. Just look at Liberty City Stories. The graphics are much better than PS1's graphics, but not as good PS2's. Tiger Woods PGA Tour 06's graphics aren't very good at all though. It's so jagged and I don't think it is textured very well.

Mad Tony
10-10-06, 18:16
I'd rather say that the PSP's graphics are more like PSP1.7 or PSP1.8. Just look at Liberty City Stories. The graphics are much better than PS1's graphics, but not as good PS2's. Tiger Woods PGA Tour 06's graphics aren't very good at all though. It's so jagged and I don't think it is textured very well.
Nah.
Well then just look at games like Kill Zone, and Area 51 for the PS2.
They have awesome graphics that are nowwhere near the PSP's graphics.

interstellardave
10-10-06, 18:18
Nah.
Well then just look at games like Kill Zone, and Area 51 for the PS2.
They have awesome graphics that are nowwhere near the PSP's graphics.

Are you saying "PSP" but meaning "PS3 (three)"? Because that's the only thing you could mean to say that makes sense!

Alive_and_Funky
10-10-06, 18:19
Nah.
Well then just look at games like Kill Zone, and Area 51 for the PS2.
They have awesome graphics that are nowwhere near the PSP's graphics.
True, but some PSP games might have great graphics in the future too. We'll just have to see. :)


@ Dave: Oh yeah. I didn't notice. :vlol:

Mad Tony
10-10-06, 18:33
Are you saying "PSP" but meaning "PS3 (three)"? Because that's the only thing you could mean to say that makes sense!
No.
:)
Killzone and Area 51's graphics are awesome and are way better than PSP's.

Alive_and_Funky
10-10-06, 18:34
No.
:)
Killzone and Area 51's graphics are awesome and are way better than PSP's.
But in your previous post you said that Killzone and Area 51's graphics could never match the PSP's. :vlol:

Mad Tony
10-10-06, 18:35
But in your previous post you said that Killzone and Area 51's graphics could never match the PSP's. :vlol:
No I didn't.
I said they're graphics are nowhere near the PSP's graphics.

Alive_and_Funky
10-10-06, 18:38
No I didn't.
I said they're graphics are nowhere near the PSP's graphics.
They have awesome graphics that are nowwhere near the PSP's graphics.
:ton:

Mad Tony
10-10-06, 18:41
:ton:
:confused:
I put that they are nowhere near PSP's graphics.
Are you reading it wrong or something.
I DID NOT put that they are no match. ;)

Alive_and_Funky
10-10-06, 18:43
:confused:
I put that they are nowhere near PSP's graphics.
Are you reading it wrong or something.
I DID NOT put that they are no match. ;)
Read this post carefully: http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showpost.php?p=1283552&postcount=96

Mad Tony
10-10-06, 18:44
Read this post carefully: http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showpost.php?p=1283552&postcount=96
Yes.
It says that the games such as Killzone and Area 51 have graphics NOWHERE NEAR THE PSP's graphics.

I didn't say they were no match for the PSP's graphics.

interstellardave
10-10-06, 18:46
No I didn't.
I said they're graphics are nowhere near the PSP's graphics.

Okay, we now know what you mean from your previous post... but usually "no where near" means "falls way short of" (not as good as). Your wording is confusing, that's all. :wve:

Alive_and_Funky
10-10-06, 18:47
Yes.
It says that the games such as Killzone and Area 51 have graphics NOWHERE NEAR THE PSP's graphics.

I didn't say they were no match for the PSP's graphics.
Oh. It makes sense now. :o

Mad Tony
10-10-06, 18:48
Okay, we now know what you mean from your previous post... but usually "no where near" means "falls way short of" (not as good as). Your wording is confusing, that's all. :wve:
I meant it as in, they are not near to the psp's graphics in terms of not near as in, far ahead.
I just forgot to put that :o

interstellardave
10-10-06, 18:49
It's cool... everyone is on the same page now!

HELLOfromRUSSIA)
10-10-06, 21:57
About PSP - it is absolutely not necessary. It is better to buy to itself DS or PSone - there it is much better games then.

raiderfun
11-10-06, 15:21
Red Steel for the wii :wve:

http://www.filerushnews.com/gallery/d/69403-3/screenshot_02_tif_jpgcopy.jpg
http://www.cubed3.com/media/2006/April/jb/redsteel6.jpg
http://image2.ruliweb.com/data/news7/05m/11/wii/ruliweb_rst_00.jpg
http://blogs.scripps.com/tcpalm/game_on/redsteel.jpg
http://gamerama.free.fr/images/Example4.jpg


Nice going in graphics ! :) :wve:

Mict
11-10-06, 19:53
http://www.linux-france.org/prj/jargonf/fig/pong.png

http://jedimike.net/open/images/nethack.png

Who cares about graphics?

Alive_and_Funky
11-10-06, 19:58
http://www.linux-france.org/prj/jargonf/fig/pong.png

http://jedimike.net/open/images/nethack.png

Who cares about graphics?
I like good graphics, but I'm not really fussed about them. I actually feel a bit shallow talking about good graphics.
http://image2.ruliweb.com/data/news7/05m/11/wii/ruliweb_rst_00.jpg
http://blogs.scripps.com/tcpalm/game_on/redsteel.jpg
http://gamerama.free.fr/images/Example4.jpg
Those pictures remind a lot of Star Wars Trilogy: Arcade. I only played it once, but I thought it was incredible. I hope to buy my own someday.

raiderfun
11-10-06, 22:16
Here are some amazing screenies of call of duty : marche vers paris sur wii:cln:
http://www.infendo.com/uploaded_images/shot0013-753485.jpg
http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/article/736/736563/call-of-duty-3-20060929051928868.jpg
http://www.gamesradar.com/us/images/mb/GamesRadar/us/EXCLUSIVE%20RIGHTS/Exclusive%20Games/C/Call%20of%20Duty%203/Bulk%20Viewers/multi/CoD3_lite--screenshot_large.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/wi/c/o/cod3wi002.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/wi/c/o/cod3wi001.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/wi/c/o/cod3wi007.jpg


Enjoy !!! :wve:

StarCroft:AOD
11-10-06, 22:56
Red Stell looks very nice.

raiderfun
14-10-06, 01:26
what a great graphics ! :cln:
http://www.motoko.it/images/morpheus/wii_tennis.jpg

HELLOfromRUSSIA)
14-10-06, 09:43
what a great graphics ! :cln:
http://www.motoko.it/images/morpheus/wii_tennis.jpg
No:D
Controls great:jmp:

Shark_Blade
14-10-06, 10:17
:eek:
I just can't imagine how were gonna use the controller. It looks fun and exciting

raiderfun
14-10-06, 18:40
:eek:
I just can't imagine how were gonna use the controller. It looks fun and exciting
Indeed ! :tmb:


Do you want more ?


Dragon Ball Z : Budokai Tenkaichi 2 FOR THE WII !! :jmp: :jmp:
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/wi/t/e/ten2wi001.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/wi/t/e/ten2wi002.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/wi/t/e/ten2wi003.jpg

StarCroft:AOD
14-10-06, 18:43
Indeed ! :tmb:


Do you want more ?


Dragon Ball Z : Budokai Tenkaichi 2 FOR THE WII !! :jmp: :jmp:
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/wi/t/e/ten2wi001.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/wi/t/e/ten2wi002.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/wi/t/e/ten2wi003.jpg

Oh very nice. :cln:

raiderfun
14-10-06, 18:52
and also Tony Hawk's Downhill Jam for the Wii :D :D

http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/wi/t/h/thdjwi020.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/wi/t/h/thdjwi013.jpg :D
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/wi/t/h/thdjwi017.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/wi/t/h/thdjwi019.jpg





Enjoy !!!!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D :wve:

Mad Tony
14-10-06, 19:23
and also Tony Hawk's Downhill Jam for the Wii :D :D

http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/wi/t/h/thdjwi020.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/wi/t/h/thdjwi013.jpg :D
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/wi/t/h/thdjwi017.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/wi/t/h/thdjwi019.jpg





Enjoy !!!!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D :wve:
Those graphics are terrible! :yik:
Couldn't you post some pictures of Xbox 360 or Ps3 graphics instead of Wii all the time? :)

raiderfun
14-10-06, 19:34
Those graphics are terrible! :yik:
Couldn't you post some pictures of Xbox 360 or Ps3 graphics instead of Wii all the time? :)
They aren't terrible ben , they're medium ! ;)

Couldn't you post some pictures of Xbox 360 or Ps3 graphics instead of Wii all the time?




Sure ! :tmb:

Here's the devil may cry 4 for the PS3 !
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/p3/d/m/dmc4p3012.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/p3/d/m/dmc4p3007.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/p3/d/m/dmc4p3013.jpg

enjoy ! :wve:

StarCroft:AOD
14-10-06, 19:36
Those are fantastic, raiderfun!, SH5 will look stunning on the PS3!. :cln:

Mad Tony
14-10-06, 19:50
They aren't terrible ben , they're medium ! ;)




Sure ! :tmb:

Here's the devil may cry 4 for the PS3 !
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/p3/d/m/dmc4p3012.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/p3/d/m/dmc4p3007.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/p3/d/m/dmc4p3013.jpg

enjoy ! :wve:
Wow!! :eek:
Those graphics are amazing!

HELLOfromRUSSIA)
14-10-06, 20:05
True NExt Gen - LOST ODYSSEY (X360)
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2006/262/928334_20060920_screen001.jpg
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2006/262/928334_20060920_screen002.jpg

raiderfun
14-10-06, 20:06
They are extremely Nice HelloFromRussia !! ;)
Done ! ;) :)

HELLOfromRUSSIA)
14-10-06, 20:14
This game created by Mistwalker - this guys - headmen from Square Soft(not Enix)
They done ChronoCross, ChronoTriger, Final Fantasy 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 and they left Square, because they dont like Square new politics. Sacaguchi, Uematsu and other, they also dev now Blue Dragon on X360
http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/bluedragon/screenindex.html

raiderfun
14-10-06, 20:33
SONIC the hedgehog on PS3/Xbox360

http://img277.imageshack.us/my.php?image=trlnagewq2.png
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/x3/s/t/sthhx3030.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/x3/s/t/sthhx3031.jpg

HELLOfromRUSSIA)
14-10-06, 20:37
Gothic 3 http://forums.gamemag.ru/images/smiles/sad02.gif
http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/pc/gothic-3-combat-is-hilarious-207649.php

raiderfun
14-10-06, 20:43
And the best for the Xbox360 iiiiisssss tenchuuuuuuu !!!!!!! :jmp: :jmp: :jmp:

http://img277.imageshack.us/my.php?image=trlnagewq2.png

http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/x3/t/e/tesex3057.jpg

HELLOfromRUSSIA)
14-10-06, 20:50
Raiderfun
This is not Next gen, this is carent gen and Tenchu Seran is not so good, badly

raiderfun
14-10-06, 20:52
Raiderfun
This is not Next gen, this is carent gen and Tenchu Seran is not so good, badly
Maybe you can find this graphics bad ! but trust me , they're next gen ! :tmb:

Mad Tony
14-10-06, 21:12
SONIC the hedgehog on PS3/Xbox360

http://img277.imageshack.us/my.php?image=trlnagewq2.png
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/x3/s/t/sthhx3030.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/x3/s/t/sthhx3031.jpg
For Xbox 360 and PS3, those graphics are awfull.

HELLOfromRUSSIA)
14-10-06, 22:16
Maybe you can find this graphics bad ! but trust me , they're next gen ! :tmb:
May be - I cannot check up it - games for Xbox360 cost in Russia 70-90 $ http://forums.gamemag.ru/images/smiles/sad02.gif
All Xbox360 gamers of Russia wait for official launch in Russia, and I should buy more many games still that before to buy Tenchu Senran.:(


Gears of War (Xbox360)
http://images.xboxyde.com/gallery/public/1100/786_0001.jpg

raiderfun
15-10-06, 20:52
For Xbox 360 and PS3, those graphics are awfull.
I know
I do not show only the best one , i show everything . :D

ivannnnn
16-10-06, 03:31
And the best for the Xbox360 iiiiisssss tenchuuuuuuu !!!!!!! :jmp: :jmp: :jmp:

http://img277.imageshack.us/my.php?image=trlnagewq2.png

http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/x3/t/e/tesex3057.jpg

:eek:..i love Tenchu :jmp:
great graphics..i think the X-bOx graphic is better than PS3

the graphic in X-Box is very true :tmb:..but i never play X-Box :confused: