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tampi
26-10-06, 18:25
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/663/larafi1.jpg (http://imageshack.us) vs http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/9843/onivu6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Oni has been another heroin of the video-games.
She has a little psychedelic adventure in 2032. I don't like too much the history . She is a little robotic. But her fight movements are many and varied.

Why Lara cannot fight like Oni?
Why Lara can't to fight?
As there is a thread speaking about Lara's armament , why Lara cannot fight with her body in some level without guns or pistols?

Here I show some examples of the movements and form of fighting of Oni:
1.- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3eEZk8E22I
2.- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KYE5ajSbPA
3.- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrOsQhOrzWM
4.- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--gNHEMkeWA
5.- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaHoc-dU9vc

daventry
26-10-06, 18:35
This should be in the Fan Art section

Moon-Safari
26-10-06, 18:40
yeah this should definately be somewhere else.

tampi
26-10-06, 18:44
but talk about of possible movements of Lara's fight in future games... :confused:

fan art?

GodOfLight
26-10-06, 18:56
no, this is the right section. tampi wants us to discuss if maybe the lara croft games could use some inspiration from the oni games ;)

Melonie Tomb Raider
26-10-06, 18:58
Well Oni would be tough to beat, omg those kicks and punches sound strong. :eek:

tampi
26-10-06, 18:59
No, only that She (Lara) could strike some enemy or have some movement of fight

tsunami151
26-10-06, 19:02
Oni has been another heroin of the video-games.
She has a little psychedelic adventure in 2032. I don't like too much the history . She is a little robotic. But her fight movements are many and varied.


Hm... actually... the game is called Oni and the main charecter is called Konoko... but never mind that;)
As for Lara to use hand-to-hand combat like Konoko... well... no 10x, there is no need for any more action TR then there is now.

Tomb_wraith
26-10-06, 19:07
If Lara fights against Konoko and no restriction in combat, good shotgun blast in the head and Oni is dead. I say. Lara is not martial art woman, she is gun woman. This is my opinion.

tampi
26-10-06, 19:07
Hm... actually... the game is called Oni and the main charecter is called Konoko... but never mind that;)
As for Lara to use hand-to-hand combat like Konoko... well... no 10x, there is no need for any more action TR then there is now.

She attacked some enemies in previous games for the back. She could increase her movements a little to carry out some novel situation

tampi
26-10-06, 19:16
I did not try to speak of Oni. Oni is only an example.

The intention is to comment the possibility of increasing the movements of Lara in future games.

Lara is the most acrobatic protagonist than I know ... :confused:

Mona Sax
26-10-06, 19:21
IMO the combat moves were fine in Legend. The rest should improve - I miss the ability to sprint, hop back, sideflip etc. whenever I want. I'd like more control over Lara's movements again. Oh yeah, and the classic "pull up" animation should return - the "jump up" one looks weird and inelegant.

tampi
26-10-06, 19:30
IMO the combat moves were fine in Legend. The rest should improve - I miss the ability to sprint, hop back, sideflip ect. whenever I want. I'd like more control over Lara's movements again. Oh yeah, and the classic "pull up" animation should return - the "jump up" one looks weird and inelegant.

Thanks :(

My impossibility to explain it leaves me disabled

Cochrane
26-10-06, 19:40
Combat in TR has always been very simple, with automatic aiming and shooting being the only option. While the right tactics to beat an enemy could be difficult, the actual actions were always rather easy, you just had to know what to do. Oni-like movements would require much more skill than simple shooting, and make this part of the game more complex.

Of course, combat has gotten more complex in TR ever since, with more guns, different types of ammunition, laser sights, different shot modes, later dedicated controls for combat, hand-to-hand and special attack moves. So maybe more complex combat would be something good. I have no idea.

scion05
26-10-06, 19:46
I used to love Oni :D

thevman
26-10-06, 20:26
Tampi! Your avatar is hypnotizing me! :p

I agree mona, give us back more manual control of lara. I also miss the flip/spin move to turn around quickly. Came in handy to run past opponents and shoot them in the back. And I miss crawling on the ground to get into ultra low places.

Ward Dragon
26-10-06, 20:48
The combat system in Legend (and AOD also, now that I think about it because they used the same ideas) would be much more suited to melee combat than to ranged combat. I'd say either lose the circle-oriented auto-locking or give me a bunch of melee attacks like Oni has. (Oni is a great game, by the way:D) I also would love to see the return of the old moves, including crawling and monkey swinging.

Lew
26-10-06, 20:50
I love Tomb Raider but I loved Oni. So hmmmm they are both great games!

Ward Dragon
26-10-06, 20:51
I love Tomb Raider but I loved Oni. So hmmmm they are both great games!

Yes, they are :D The point of this thread is to ask if you would like to see something like Oni's combat moves included in future TR games.

Angel666
26-10-06, 21:01
Yes, I love Oni too. I think it would be great if Lara could have at least basic punching and kicking as a secondary fight option.

Terminatorvs
26-10-06, 21:40
Lara is not the Oni police officer. There's no use implementing "Oni's" elements into "TR", that would be more like "Matrix", and not "TR".

tampi
27-10-06, 22:36
Yes, I love Oni too. I think it would be great if Lara could have at least basic punching and kicking as a secondary fight option.
this is a good option :tmb:


@Cochrane: is true, another time, the combat in Legend is easy, too many movements would complicate the game a lot


Tampi! Your avatar is hypnotizing me! :p

I agree mona, give us back more manual control of lara. I also miss the flip/spin move to turn around quickly. Came in handy to run past opponents and shoot them in the back. And I miss crawling on the ground to get into ultra low places.

I'm sorry thevman, soon I will change it by calmer other but not less irreverent :ton:

And the movements, in each game they have appeared new movements and they have cleared others, like the possibility of watching in TR2 (was?)
To me I liked that possibility...
And one punch or two too :D

2kool4u
28-10-06, 01:05
Lara do the head jump!!!

ivannnnn
28-10-06, 09:13
Lara is an archaeologist,so she can't punch :(

I prefer Lara than Oni

tampi
28-10-06, 11:19
Lara is an archaeologist,so she can't punch :(

:rolleyes: it is not a reason


I prefer Lara than Oni

Me too :jmp: :D

Legends
28-10-06, 11:52
Tomb Raider is the Best game ever.. but I love Oni too!