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SpArKy
27-10-06, 17:50
Slight problemo, i have installled SP2 for my dads computer but now the Monitor goes to standby when i boot up the machine.

So i thought 'oh thats because the drivers will need updating for the Graphcis card' so i boot in safe mode and download the drivers. But will they insall? NO?

It says i dont have DirectX 8..this is true, so i download the new Direct X driver and install it. Do i still get the same error message after its installed..yes?


Anyone got any suggestions?

SpArKy
27-10-06, 17:54
It now says i dont have .net framwork either. But i must do because it comes with SP2.

So anyway i go to Windows Update and try to install the latest install package in order to get updates, but i get an error there as well.

I should mention that i am trying to do all this in Safe Mode, and the monitor is plugged into the graphics card.

But does the same when plugged into the motherboard.

EscondeR
27-10-06, 18:06
It now says i dont have .net framwork either. But i must do because it comes with SP2.

So anyway i go to Windows Update and try to install the latest install package in order to get updates, but i get an error there as well.

I should mention that i am trying to do all this in Safe Mode, and the monitor is plugged into the graphics card.

But does the same when plugged into the motherboard.

As I see you have 2 graphic adapters: one built-in & another AGP or PCI-E (doesn't matter). So switch off the built in one from the BIOS setup and plug the monitor to another. Then try to boot in normal mode & update the drivers for this exact adapter ;)

SpArKy
27-10-06, 18:10
I have no idea how to disable it in bios mode!

Joseph
27-10-06, 18:13
SP2 will not say you don't have DirectX8.

Please Sparky click on following link Diagnose.exe (http://www.tombraiderhub.com/download/diagnose.exe) select to RUN it then post the complete result in your next reply. :)

EscondeR
27-10-06, 18:16
I have no idea how to disable it in bios mode!

Enter BIOS setup by pressing DEL before Windows boot up ;)

BTW, you can download & run Diagnose.exe from http://www.tombraiderhub.com/faq & post the results here for us to see the situation clearely

--Edit--
You're fast, Joseph :wve:

SpArKy
27-10-06, 18:20
Hi guys, its taking an aweful long time to diognose. Is it crashed maybe?

EscondeR
27-10-06, 18:27
It will take long time, cause I think you do it in Safe mode as you can't boot normally in common mode.

SpArKy
27-10-06, 18:30
Ugh...i am so impatient, lol. Like a little child ha ha.

So EsconeR hows Russia?

Nice to meet, hope your well Joseph?

EDIT* BTW i deffinately have SP2 installed. Still says i need Direct 8 when i try install the graphics card driver.

EscondeR
27-10-06, 18:38
So EsconeR hows Russia?


Cold and rainy tonight :)
And generally... like the native country can be... lovely (I mean nature of course, not the political situation :p )

As for you prob:
Look for options containing "Display adapter" or so in your BIOS screens (as I dunno exact version of your BIOS). And if you find Built-in display adapter change it to "Disabled" and plug the monitor to another one.

SpArKy
27-10-06, 18:46
Only seen Russia in the Bond films, ha ha!

Maybe one day i willl get to see it. But i hate planes. With a passion!

Still waiting on this results thing OMG>:tea:

EscondeR
27-10-06, 18:51
Can you post a screenshot of running diagnose.exe... Does it read you hdd, make any activity? Or just does nothing...

SpArKy
27-10-06, 18:54
It seems dead to me.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/SpArKy18/th_digonose.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/SpArKy18/digonose.jpg)

SpArKy
27-10-06, 18:57
Useless info removed

EscondeR
27-10-06, 19:01
Did you post the complete code :confused: (No hardware info)

SpArKy
27-10-06, 19:02
Thats all it gave me in the notepad, i pressed CTL + A

SpArKy
27-10-06, 19:03
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Diagnostic tool developed for www.tombraiderforums.com
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Version : 1.81
Author : Simulation

Select All then Copy and paste the text in Notepad into a reply on the forum.

Operating System

Windows XP Detected

COMMAND.COM
COMMAND.COM has been installed

Autoexec.NT
@echo off
lh %SystemRoot%\system32\mscdexnt.exe
lh %SystemRoot%\system32\redir
lh %SystemRoot%\system32\dosx
SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 P330 T3

Config.NT
dos=high, umb
device=%SystemRoot%\system32\himem.sys
files=40

Programs Currently Running

Image Name PID Session Name Session# Mem Usage
========================= ====== ================ ======== ============
System Idle Process 0 Console 0 16 K
System 4 Console 0 212 K
smss.exe 540 Console 0 372 K
csrss.exe 588 Console 0 3,716 K
winlogon.exe 612 Console 0 2,824 K
services.exe 656 Console 0 3,764 K
lsass.exe 668 Console 0 1,228 K
svchost.exe 816 Console 0 4,292 K
svchost.exe 864 Console 0 3,768 K
svchost.exe 1040 Console 0 14,224 K
svchost.exe 1068 Console 0 2,940 K
svchost.exe 1148 Console 0 2,616 K
explorer.exe 1628 Console 0 16,664 K
firefox.exe 444 Console 0 41,396 K
diagnose.exe 912 Console 0 2,656 K
cmd.exe 324 Console 0 1,316 K
tasklist.exe 1636 Console 0 3,844 K
wmiprvse.exe 500 Console 0 5,212 K

Tomb Raider Game Setup Information



DirectX Diagnostics Report

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System Information
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Time of this report: 10/27/2006, 12:03:17
Machine name: MARK-X0576AJ5CI
Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: American Megatrends Inc.
System Model: K7S41
BIOS: Version 1.00
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3200+, MMX, 3DNow, ~2.2GHz
Memory: 1024MB RAM
Page File: 93MB used, 2368MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode
DxDiag Previously: Crashed in DirectMusic (stage 2) & DirectShow (stage 1)

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DxDiag Notes
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DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
Display Tab 1: The system is using the generic video driver. Please install video driver provided by the hardware manufacturer. Direct3D functionality not available. You should verify that the driver is a final version from the hardware manufacturer.
Sound Tab 1: No sound card was found. If one is expected, you should install a sound driver provided by the hardware manufacturer.
Music Tab: No DirectMusic ports were found.
Input Tab: No problems found.
Network Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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Card name:
Manufacturer:
Chip type:
DAC type:
Device Key: Enum\
Display Memory: n/a
Current Mode: 800 x 600 (32 bit) (1Hz)
Monitor:
Monitor Max Res:
Driver Name: vga.dll
Driver Version: 5.01.2600.0000 (English)
DDI Version: unknown
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 9/30/2003 17:00:00, 9344 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
VDD: n/a
Mini VDD: vga.sys
Mini VDD Date: 8/3/2004 23:07:08, 20992 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B70EE0-4340-11CF-B063-282AAEC2C835}
Vendor ID: 0x0000
Device ID: 0x0000
SubSys ID: 0x00000000
Revision ID: 0x0000
Revision ID: 0x0000
Video Accel:
Deinterlace Caps: n/a
Registry: OK
DDraw Status: Not Available
D3D Status: Not Available
AGP Status: Not Available
DDraw Test Result: Not run
D3D7 Test Result: Not run
D3D8 Test Result: Not run
D3D9 Test Result: Not run

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Sound Devices
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Description:
Default Sound Playback: No
Default Voice Playback: No
Hardware ID:
Manufacturer ID:
Product ID:
Type:
Driver Name:
Driver Version:
Driver Attributes:
WHQL Logo'd:
Date and Size:
Other Files:
Driver Provider:
HW Accel Level: Emulation Only
Cap Flags: 0x0
Min/Max Sample Rate: 0, 0
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 0, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
Registry: OK
Sound Test Result: Not run

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Sound Capture Devices
---------------------
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DirectMusic
-----------
DLS Path:
DLS Version:
Acceleration: n/a
Ports: Registry: OK
Test Result: Not run

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DirectInput Devices
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Device Name: Mouse
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: Keyboard
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: USB Multimedia Keyboard
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x099A, 0x610C
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: USB Multimedia Keyboard
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x099A, 0x610C
FF Driver: n/a

Poll w/ Interrupt: No
Registry: OK

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USB Devices
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+ USB Root Hub
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x1039, 0x7001
| Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub
| Service: usbhub
| Driver: usbhub.sys, 8/3/2004 23:08:44, 57600 bytes
| Driver: usbd.sys, 9/30/2003 17:00:00, 4736 bytes

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Gameport Devices
----------------

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PS/2 Devices
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+ Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
| Matching Device ID: *pnp0303
| Service: i8042prt
| Driver: i8042prt.sys, 8/3/2004 23:14:38, 52736 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 8/3/2004 22:58:34, 24576 bytes
|
+ HID Keyboard Device
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x099A, 0x610C
| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_keyboard
| Service: kbdhid
| Driver: kbdhid.sys, 8/3/2004 22:58:36, 14848 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 8/3/2004 22:58:34, 24576 bytes
|
+ Terminal Server Keyboard Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_kbd
| Upper Filters: kbdclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: termdd.sys, 8/4/2004 01:01:08, 40840 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 8/3/2004 22:58:34, 24576 bytes
|
+ HID-compliant mouse
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x09DA, 0x022B
| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_mouse
| Service: mouhid
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 8/3/2004 22:58:34, 23040 bytes
| Driver: mouhid.sys, 9/30/2003 17:00:00, 12160 bytes
|
+ Terminal Server Mouse Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_mou
| Upper Filters: mouclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: termdd.sys, 8/4/2004 01:01:08, 40840 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 8/3/2004 22:58:34, 23040 bytes

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DirectPlay Service Providers
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DirectPlay8 Modem Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
DirectPlay8 IPX Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
Internet TCP/IP Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpwsockx.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
IPX Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpwsockx.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
Modem Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpmodemx.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
Serial Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpmodemx.dll (5.03.2600.2180)

DirectPlay Voice Wizard Tests: Full Duplex: , Half Duplex: , Mic:
DirectPlay Test Result: Not run
Registry: OK

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DirectPlay Adapters
-------------------
DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider: Local Area Connection - IPv4 -

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DirectPlay Voice Codecs
-----------------------
Voxware VR12 1.4kbit/s
Voxware SC06 6.4kbit/s
Voxware SC03 3.2kbit/s
MS-PCM 64 kbit/s
MS-ADPCM 32.8 kbit/s
Microsoft GSM 6.10 13 kbit/s
TrueSpeech(TM) 8.6 kbit/s

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DirectPlay Lobbyable Apps
-------------------------

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Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives
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Drive: C:
Free Space: 122.2 GB
Total Space: 131.1 GB
File System: NTFS
Model: Maxtor 6L160P0

Drive: D:
Model: PHILIPS DVDR1628P1
Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 22:59:54, 49536 bytes

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System Devices
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Name: SinoVideo Proteus (7134) WDM Video Capture
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1131&DEV_7130&SUBSYS_20030919&REV_01\3&61AAA01&0&50
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ksuser.dll, 5.03.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 00:56:44, 4096 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ksproxy.ax, 5.03.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 00:56:58, 130048 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\ks.sys, 5.03.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:15:22, 140928 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\kstvtune.ax, 5.03.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 00:56:58, 61952 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ksxbar.ax, 5.03.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 00:56:58, 43008 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\kswdmcap.ax, 5.03.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 00:56:58, 90624 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\vidcap.ax, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 00:56:58, 28672 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\vfwwdm32.dll, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 00:56:48, 53760 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\iyuv_32.dll, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 00:56:44, 47616 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\msh263.drv, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 00:56:58, 294912 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\msyuv.dll, 5.03.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 00:56:46, 17408 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\tsbyuv.dll, 5.01.2600.0000 (English), 8/17/2001 22:36:34, 8192 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\Cap7134.sys, 2.03.0000.0009 (English), 12/3/2003 03:33:46, 333568 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\34api.dll, 2.03.0000.0009 (English), 9/12/2003 01:24:58, 135168 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\34pciurd.dll, 2.03.0000.0009 (English), 9/12/2003 01:26:36, 24576 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\34i2curd.dll, 2.03.0000.0009 (English), 9/12/2003 01:25:04, 24576 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\34dd.dll, 2.03.0000.0009 (English), 9/12/2003 01:26:24, 77824 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\34ds.dll, 2.03.0000.0009 (English), 9/12/2003 01:30:30, 36864 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\34dialog.dll, 2.03.0000.0009 (English), 9/12/2003 01:38:00, 98304 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\34dlg2.dll, 2.03.0000.0009 (English), 9/12/2003 01:40:44, 290816 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\34TvCtrl.dll, 2.03.0000.0009 (English), 9/12/2003 01:37:48, 69632 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\34com.dll, 2.03.0000.0009 (English), 9/12/2003 01:36:40, 114688 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Prop7134.dll, 2.03.0000.0009 (English), 9/12/2003 01:33:10, 106571 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\cap7134.hlp, 7/16/2003 11:14:18, 57533 bytes

Name: AT-WCP200G 802.11g Wireless PCI Adapter
Device ID: PCI\VEN_104C&DEV_9066&SUBSYS_12011259&REV_00\3&61AAA01&0&48
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\FwRad16.bin, 4/3/2004 21:07:36, 83320 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\FwRad17.bin, 4/3/2004 21:07:40, 84912 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\WCP200.sys, 6.00.0002.0023 (English), 6/7/2004 03:39:26, 385792 bytes

Name: C-Media AC97 Audio Device
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1039&DEV_7012&SUBSYS_70121849&REV_A0\3&61AAA01&0&17
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ksuser.dll, 5.03.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 00:56:44, 4096 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ksproxy.ax, 5.03.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 00:56:58, 130048 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\ks.sys, 5.03.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:15:22, 140928 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\drmk.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:08:00, 60288 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\portcls.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:15:50, 145792 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\stream.sys, 5.03.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:08:04, 48640 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\wdmaud.drv, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 00:56:58, 23552 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\cmuda.sys, 5.12.0001.0050 (English), 12/15/2005 13:57:46, 1368000 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\udaprop.dll, 1.00.0002.0002 (English), 4/24/2003 13:29:08, 32768 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\cmuda.dll, 5.12.0001.0164 (Chinese), 12/15/2005 18:48:20, 172032 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\cmirmdrv.dll, 2/18/2003 18:26:28, 28672 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\cmirmdrv.exe, 1.00.0000.0016 (English), 4/23/2004 15:02:10, 233472 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system\cmids3d.dll, 1.00.0000.0000 (Chinese), 4/29/2002 15:04:40, 917504 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system\cmicnfg.cpl, 1.00.0041.0025 (Chinese), 12/15/2005 13:46:48, 2834432 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system\SmWizard.exe, 1.00.0002.0003 (English), 2/17/2004 10:51:56, 1458176 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\a3d.dll, 4.12.0001.2008 (English), 11/23/2001 12:08:20, 712704 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Audio3D.dll, 4.12.0001.2008 (English), 11/23/2001 12:08:20, 712704 bytes

Name: SiS PCI to USB Enhanced Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1039&DEV_7002&SUBSYS_70021849&REV_00\3&61AAA01&0&1A
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbehci.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:08:38, 26624 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:08:44, 142976 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\usbui.dll, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 00:56:48, 74240 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:08:44, 57600 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\hccoin.dll, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 00:56:44, 7168 bytes

Name: SiS 7001 PCI to USB Open Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1039&DEV_7001&SUBSYS_70011849&REV_0F\3&61AAA01&0&19
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbohci.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:08:38, 17024 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:08:44, 142976 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\usbui.dll, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 00:56:48, 74240 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:08:44, 57600 bytes

Name: SiS 7001 PCI to USB Open Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1039&DEV_7001&SUBSYS_70011849&REV_0F\3&61AAA01&0&18
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbohci.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:08:38, 17024 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:08:44, 142976 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\usbui.dll, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 00:56:48, 74240 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:08:44, 57600 bytes

Name: SiS PCI IDE Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1039&DEV_5513&SUBSYS_55131849&REV_00\3&61AAA01&0&15
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pciidex.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 22:59:42, 25088 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\atapi.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 22:59:44, 95360 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pciide.sys, 5.01.2600.0000 (English), 9/30/2003 17:00:00, 3328 bytes

Name: SiS 900-Based PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1039&DEV_0900&SUBSYS_09001849&REV_90\3&61AAA01&0&20
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\sisnic.sys, 1.16.0000.0005 (English), 8/3/2004 22:31:36, 32768 bytes

Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1039&DEV_0741&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_03\3&61AAA01&0&00
Driver: n/a

Name: SIS PCI to ISA bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1039&DEV_0008&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_25\3&61AAA01&0&10
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\isapnp.sys, 5.01.2600.0000 (English), 9/30/2003 17:00:00, 35840 bytes

Name: SiS Accelerated Graphics Port
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1039&DEV_0003&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&61AAA01&0&08
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\SISAGPX.SYS, 7.02.0000.1170 (English), 7/17/2003 18:58:20, 36992 bytes

Name: RADEON 9600 SERIES - Secondary
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4172&SUBSYS_7C211002&REV_00\4&1AFFAA3D&0&0108
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ati2mtag.sys, 6.14.0010.6483 (English), 11/4/2004 07:31:44, 800256 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2dvag.dll, 6.14.0010.6483 (English), 11/4/2004 07:31:44, 216576 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2cqag.dll, 6.14.0010.0257 (English), 11/4/2004 07:31:44, 245760 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2mdxx.exe, 6.14.0010.2494 (English), 11/4/2004 07:31:44, 65536 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati3duag.dll, 6.14.0010.0263 (English), 11/4/2004 07:31:44, 2254560 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ativvaxx.dll, 6.14.0001.0033 (English), 11/4/2004 07:31:44, 479840 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ATIDDC.DLL, 6.14.0010.0005 (English), 11/4/2004 07:31:44, 81920 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atitvo32.dll, 6.14.0010.4100 (English), 11/4/2004 07:31:44, 17408 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ativcoxx.dll, 6.13.0010.0005 (English), 11/4/2004 07:31:44, 24064 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2evxx.exe, 6.14.0010.4107 (English), 11/4/2004 07:31:44, 405504 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2evxx.dll, 6.14.0010.4107 (English), 11/4/2004 07:31:44, 90112 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atipdlxx.dll, 6.14.0010.2492 (English), 11/4/2004 07:31:44, 131072 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Oemdspif.dll, 6.14.0001.0010 (English), 11/4/2004 07:31:44, 102400 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2edxx.dll, 6.14.0010.2495 (English), 11/4/2004 07:31:44, 30720 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ATIDEMGR.dll, 1.00.1733.17172 (English), 11/4/2004 07:31:44, 163840 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atifglpf.xml, 11/4/2004 07:31:44, 10055 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atioglxx.dll, 6.14.0010.4650 (English), 11/4/2004 07:31:44, 6553600 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atiiiexx.dll, 6.14.0010.4003 (English), 11/4/2004 07:31:44, 294912 bytes

Name: RADEON 9600 SERIES
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4152&SUBSYS_7C201002&REV_00\4&1AFFAA3D&0&0008
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ati2mtag.sys, 6.14.0010.6483 (English), 11/4/2004 07:31:44, 800256 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2dvag.dll, 6.14.0010.6483 (English), 11/4/2004 07:31:44, 216576 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2cqag.dll, 6.14.0010.0257 (English), 11/4/2004 07:31:44, 245760 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2mdxx.exe, 6.14.0010.2494 (English), 11/4/2004 07:31:44, 65536 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati3duag.dll, 6.14.0010.0263 (English), 11/4/2004 07:31:44, 2254560 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ativvaxx.dll, 6.14.0001.0033 (English), 11/4/2004 07:31:44, 479840 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ATIDDC.DLL, 6.14.0010.0005 (English), 11/4/2004 07:31:44, 81920 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atitvo32.dll, 6.14.0010.4100 (English), 11/4/2004 07:31:44, 17408 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ativcoxx.dll, 6.13.0010.0005 (English), 11/4/2004 07:31:44, 24064 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2evxx.exe, 6.14.0010.4107 (English), 11/4/2004 07:31:44, 405504 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2evxx.dll, 6.14.0010.4107 (English), 11/4/2004 07:31:44, 90112 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atipdlxx.dll, 6.14.0010.2492 (English), 11/4/2004 07:31:44, 131072 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Oemdspif.dll, 6.14.0001.0010 (English), 11/4/2004 07:31:44, 102400 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2edxx.dll, 6.14.0010.2495 (English), 11/4/2004 07:31:44, 30720 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ATIDEMGR.dll, 1.00.1733.17172 (English), 11/4/2004 07:31:44, 163840 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atifglpf.xml, 11/4/2004 07:31:44, 10055 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atioglxx.dll, 6.14.0010.4650 (English), 11/4/2004 07:31:44, 6553600 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atiiiexx.dll, 6.14.0010.4003 (English), 11/4/2004 07:31:44, 294912 bytes

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SpArKy
27-10-06, 19:03
I re run it, and it worked straight away.:S

EscondeR
27-10-06, 19:07
I suppose you still must try this:
Reboot, while Power On Self Test press DEL, in BIOS search for Onboard Display(VGA) Adapter or so and disable it, quit BIOS setup with saving new settings. Then switch your PC off, plug your monitor to your Graphic card not to motherboard connector and turn the PC on. Then try booting Windows in normal mode.

SpArKy
27-10-06, 19:08
The monitor is already plugged in to the card.

SpArKy
27-10-06, 19:21
I am not having much look, tried a few things in Bios but i dont really know what i am doing, so i reset them to default.

EscondeR
28-10-06, 08:03
By default onboard graphics is active... You should disable it not to confuse your system ;)

SpArKy
28-10-06, 08:56
I dont know how to disable them!! :(

SpArKy
28-10-06, 09:27
I have tried 2 ways to disable it, one from device manager. But not sure which tree it is, lol.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/SpArKy18/th_Displaycard.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/SpArKy18/Displaycard.jpg)

Second was in the Bios but i dont know again which one exatcly it is/

The bios is Amibios 3.31a

SpArKy
28-10-06, 10:28
I cant believe after everything i have installed on this computer, the only thing that is wrong is the monitor driver, shocking.

SpArKy
28-10-06, 10:54
I have reverted back to SP1 as the computer loads normally in this mode.


Maybe it will be easier to do it from within windows i dont know.

Joseph
28-10-06, 11:38
Sparky don't touch the video codecs!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/SpArKy18/Displaycard.jpg

You have the display adapters Radeon 9600. What you need to install is their drivers package.
No need to change anything in the BIOS especially not while you have no clue what you're doing.

Joseph
28-10-06, 11:46
Sparky you must NOT boot into safe mode to install the Radeon drivers.
You must download:
Catalyst 6.3.
Catalyst Uninstaller
Microsoft .Net Framework.

Hang on i'll search for it.

Edit: here it is.

Update your ATI drivers to Catalyst 6.3, which is stable. Don't take 6.4 - 6.9, as they all have a shader-problem with Legend.

Download and install Catalyst 6.3. Start HERE (https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=293). At the left side, select Drivers and Software > Windows XP > Radeon > Previous Drivers and Software. On Page 3, you'll find Catalyst 6.3. (take the full Catalyst Control Center Package).
Read the notes! You must first install Microsoft .Net Framework. Then you must first uninstall previous ATI drivers with the Catalyst Uninstaller.


Notes:

ATI recommends Windows XP Service Pack 2 or higher (http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/default.mspx) to be installed.
You must have Microsoft .NET Framework (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=262D25E3-F589-4842-8157-034D1E7CF3A3&displaylang=en) installed prior to downloading and installing the Catalyst Control Center
The Catalyst Uninstaller (http://support.ati.com/ics/support/DLRedirect.asp?fileIDExt=050553d40196ef109fff37cbb 40aaf28&accountID=737&deptID=894) is an optional download. We recommend using this utility to uninstall any previously installed Catalyst drivers prior to installation.
Catalyst Control Center is available in a bundle supporting other languages . So, you first:
- uninstall your outdated drivers using Cat.uninst.exe
-Reboot PC. Cancel any Windows messages about your graphic card.
-Install Microsoft .Net Framework.
-Reboot PC
-Install Catalyst 6.3
-Defragment your hdd. Use Diskeeper Lite (http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=1207). Works much faster than the inbuilt defragger of Windows. :)

SpArKy
28-10-06, 14:57
This is the problem i cant install the Graphics cards drivers because after the reboot when installing SP2...i cant get to the desktop to install it. Because the monitor does not load.

Joseph
28-10-06, 15:00
'Monitors' is not even in your Device Manager list.

SpArKy
28-10-06, 15:08
Exactly, i managed to get them there once. I am going back before SP2 to try and get it back.

Its really strange!

MMAN
28-10-06, 15:09
This is the problem i cant install the Graphics cards drivers because after the reboot when installing SP2...i cant get to the desktop to install it. Because the monitor does not load.

Do you mean the monitor light just stays yellow? I have this problem too when doing stuff like changing drivers and the only way I could fix it was moving to another monitor while doing stuff like that.

Is there a way to fix that?

Joseph
28-10-06, 15:12
Your monitor is not detected. Check the connection.
When you are certain that is OK, turn OFF the monitor. Let it cool down for a few minutes.
Turn the monitor on again.
Reboot the PC.

SpArKy
28-10-06, 15:15
Yes it goes in to power saving mode.

It works perfect until installing SP2, this is withit the Graphics card drivers though.

I am going back to SP1 and trying things again.

Hopefully to get the 'Monitors' tree back in Device Manager first!

Joseph
28-10-06, 15:18
OK, i suggest you do that (going back to XP SP1).
Then set your Display Adapter to Standard VGA.
Then update to SP2.
Then install Microsoft .Net Framework and finally
Catalyst 6.3.

SpArKy
28-10-06, 15:23
Right i am here, everything works fine so far.

I have the monitor back, installed the monitor driver.

But if i restart now, i think it will go into power mode.

So i need to change the Monitor to VGA....how do i do this?

Also it is still plugged into the graphics card?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/SpArKy18/th_drivers.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/SpArKy18/drivers.jpg)

SpArKy
28-10-06, 15:28
Is this the problem, what do i select?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/SpArKy18/problem.jpg

Joseph
28-10-06, 15:31
You have 1 monitor connected to the Radeon, you select number 1.

It must have ticked on: Use this device as standard monitor.
When you click on monitor 2, both options must be ticked off, so "extend my windows desktop onto this monitor" must be unticked.

Joseph
28-10-06, 15:37
It may be possible you have connected the monitor to the secondary display adapter in stead of the first.

Your radeon 9600 has two output connectors. Your monitor should be connected to the primary output, not the secondary.

SpArKy
28-10-06, 15:37
Both Box's are greyed out as shown above when 1 is selected.

What shall i do now?

EDIT also on 2, it is also un ticked!

SpArKy
28-10-06, 15:40
It may be possible you have connected the monitor to the secondary display adapter in stead of the first.

Your radeon 9600 has two output connectors. Your monitor should be connected to the primary output, not the secondary.

My monitor only fits into the blue socket on the graphics card though.

Joseph
28-10-06, 15:42
Ah, ok. It is a flatpanel, guess?

SpArKy
28-10-06, 15:43
Yes

SpArKy
28-10-06, 15:49
I darn't reboot yet! LOL

What do yo think Joseph, can i solve it?

Joseph
28-10-06, 15:54
Of course!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/SpArKy18/problem.jpg

Now i see that by default your flatpanel is connected to the secondary output of the Radeon 9600, because that is the digital output.
So, you must select:
2. (Default monitor) on Radeon 9600 Series - Secondary.

SpArKy
28-10-06, 15:56
Should i reboot then?

Joseph
28-10-06, 15:58
I edited. First check this.Of course!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/SpArKy18/problem.jpg

Now i see that by default your flatpanel is connected to the secondary output of the Radeon 9600, because that is the digital output.
So, you must select:
2. (Default monitor) on Radeon 9600 Series - Secondary.

Then reboot. :)

SpArKy
28-10-06, 15:59
Errr, it looks horrible. Ha ha!

Right i am going to try reboot and then install SP2? What do you think?

Joseph
28-10-06, 16:01
It looks horrible because this is the very lowest, standard VGA mode.

Reboot now.
Then install SP2.
Then install Microsoft .Net Framework and finally
Catalyst 6.3.

SpArKy
28-10-06, 16:04
OK, i think i understand now. Well i do understand!

Just installing SP2...you know how long it takes!! Ha ha.

Hopefully it will be in the nick of time as i have to shoot off back to London :)

My dad looks lost without his XP....bless!

I can now leave XP and go back to my beloved MAC :D:jmp:

SpArKy
28-10-06, 16:07
Small question, would you still recommend i install Catalyst 3.1? Or the latest?

Joseph
28-10-06, 16:07
Ok then! :tmb:

So, you must select:
2. (Default monitor) on Radeon 9600 Series - Secondary.
Ticked ON: "Use this device as the Primary Monitor".
Ticked OFF: "extend my windows desktop onto this monitor".


Small question, would you still recommend i install Catalyst 3.1? Or the latest?

Of course not 3.1. You install only the 6.3 version!!!

SpArKy
28-10-06, 16:10
Ok one problem at the minute it doesnt let me set it as primary. Should i make sure i select it each time before i restart applying the changes?

SpArKy
28-10-06, 16:12
Ok then! :tmb:

So, you must select:
2. (Default monitor) on Radeon 9600 Series - Secondary.
Ticked ON: "Use this device as the Primary Monitor".
Ticked OFF: "extend my windows desktop onto this monitor".


Of course not 3.1. You install only the 6.3 version!!!

I meant 6.3 sorry lol.

Joseph
28-10-06, 16:14
What. You select Monitor 2 (click on the image of the rectangle with the number 2 in it). >>> Tick ON "use this device as primary monitor".
Then you select Monitor 1. >>> Tick OFF "use this device as primary monitor".

SpArKy
28-10-06, 16:20
What happens is, when i select Display 2>Then the dotted box. It is still greyed out!

Joseph
28-10-06, 17:27
But do you have monitor output now, monitor is working?

SpArKy
29-10-06, 15:22
Yes i had monitor output, i left the comptuer installing SP2.

We will have to adjurn until Wed when i return back. LOL

I was going to miss my train.

SpArKy
01-11-06, 16:14
Right...well after SP2 installed i went back to my first problem. The monitor goes in to power saving mode. There is nothing else i can try! I cant get to the desktop at all to install the catalyst drivers its stupid.

Joseph
01-11-06, 16:17
Undo that power saving mode.
Control Panel > Energy Management.

SpArKy
01-11-06, 16:36
What shal i do it in Safe Mode, or revert back from SP2?

Joseph
01-11-06, 16:41
Cool down Sparky. Stop with that safe mode. And SP2 is fine.

Normal mode! Simply, on your desktop.

Right-click > Properties > tab Screensaver > Button Energy...

SpArKy
01-11-06, 16:43
OK, but i cant get to my desktop to disable the power saving because the monitor doesn't load. Only in 'Safe Mode'.

Joseph
01-11-06, 16:50
Sorry, i reread and see what you mean. This is rediculous. Never happened to me.

SpArKy
01-11-06, 16:51
Just my luck i suppose. I was doing great until SP2 gets installed, then the monitor just will not come on to install the new driver updates.:(

Joseph
01-11-06, 16:52
If your display settings are all right in XP SP1, and then you install SP2, these settings should not change at all.

SpArKy
01-11-06, 16:53
I have an idea ish, i am going back pre SP2 and Graphics drivers. Installing SP2, then Graphics drivers staright after while the monitor is still on then restartin.

But with SP2 graphics drivers

SpArKy
01-11-06, 16:54
If your display settings are all right in XP SP1, and then you install SP2, these settings should not change at all.

I dont know if they do or they dont change. But the monitor decides not to come on after SP2.

Joseph
01-11-06, 16:55
Yes i think i understand now. :D

1. Revert to XP before SP2, and make the PC all right. That means: install an earlier Catalyst. Which version do you have on the CD? You need a Catalyst version that does not require SP2 to be installed. The earliest version they offer (v 5.5) requires SP2, so you need an even earlier one.

2. And later (when everything is OK with the display), install SP2 and then the more/most recent Catalyst. If your dad doesn't care about TR:Legend, just as well install Catalyst 6.10

SpArKy
01-11-06, 17:08
Thanks Joseph just reverting back now.

Its really confusing yes, but i also udnerstand now as well. Hope it works.

Joseph
01-11-06, 17:10
You could install the Omega drivers, old version, see this archive page (http://www.driverheavendownloads.net/omegadrive.htm)... i suggest you take 3.10 for XP. :)

Then install SP2.

SpArKy
01-11-06, 17:17
Ohhh, ok!

Thanks!

Joseph
01-11-06, 17:26
I hope it helps! :) I expect it helps! :)

SpArKy
01-11-06, 17:26
I cant install the Omega Drivers beacuse it needs .NET framework.

SpArKy
01-11-06, 17:33
What i have done is installed the Drivers and Monitordrivers from the CD and then i am going to update to SP2 and then install the New SP2 Ctalyst Drivers

Joseph
01-11-06, 17:36
Even the old Omega drivers need .Net framework? Hmm.

Which version do you have on the CD?

SpArKy
01-11-06, 17:44
I cant see where it says, the Folder just says ATI.

yeah OMEGA want .NET framework.

Joseph
01-11-06, 17:45
Does it install from the CD? That would be the best! :)

SpArKy
01-11-06, 18:12
It installs the drivers but not the Catalyst Control Centre thing.

Joseph
01-11-06, 18:18
No problem is it. It is the drivers that counts. :)

Btw: it is the Control Centre and the .Net Framework that require SP2.

Are you able to adjust your monitor settings now? :)

SpArKy
01-11-06, 18:30
Well after installing the new Catalyst Control centre it resarted and seemed ok. But now it has a black screen, with a green light on!

I dont get it.

Joseph
01-11-06, 18:47
Catalyst Control Centre and the .Net Framework require SP2.
So, did you already install SP2? :)

Joseph
01-11-06, 18:50
The clue is that you at this point only install the drivers, NOT the Control Centre.
Then install SP2.
Then uninstall the old Catalyst (using Catalyst Uninstaller (http://www.jozefdekkers.nl/Trforum/Computer/cat-uninstaller.zip)).
Then install Microsoft. Net Framework
Then install the latest catalyst 6.10.

SpArKy
01-11-06, 18:50
It says Catalyst cannot optimise the monitor until it determines the full processing something. Then the screen goes black restarts and then does not come back on after rebooting.

SpArKy
01-11-06, 18:52
The clue is that you at this point only install the drivers, NOT the Control Centre.
Then install SP2.
Then uninstall the old Catalyst (using Catalyst Uninstaller).
Then install Microsoft. Net Framework
Then install the latest catalyst 6.10.

I did that, now it will not load! Actually it did this time, but keeps restarting at login.

SpArKy
01-11-06, 18:53
it says 'Out of Range on the monitor 24.7 - 40mhz then goes black!

Joseph
01-11-06, 18:53
I did thatNo, you did part of it, be precise please.
Which part did you do?

Joseph
01-11-06, 18:56
it says 'Out of Range on the monitor 24.7 - 40mhz then goes black!40 Mhz? :confused:
Monitor not compatible maybe? You know, on the ATI cd there are a Readme and a Manual.

SpArKy
01-11-06, 18:58
No i reverted back to SP1, installed draivers only, no Catalyst Control Center. Updated to SP2 changed the monitor to its basic default. Then installed .net framwork, then installed the latest Catalyst Control Centre.

SpArKy
01-11-06, 18:59
40 Mhz? :confused:
Monitor not compatible maybe? You know, on the ATI cd there are a Readme and a Manual.

Thing is i have had the whole set up working fine millions of times before, this time it decides not to work after i formatted.

This time the monitor went fuzzy, and the second time i loaded it goes black with the green light on.

SpArKy
01-11-06, 19:02
Now it will not even let me load into safe mode to do a system restore. this just gets better.

Joseph
01-11-06, 19:05
No i reverted back to SP1, installed draivers only, no Catalyst Control Center. Updated to SP2 changed the monitor to its basic default.********* Then installed .net framwork, then installed the latest Catalyst Control Centre.You didn't uninstall the previous drivers first? At the point where i put the stars.

SpArKy
01-11-06, 19:06
This time it let me load into safe mode, i am reverting back now before catalyst drivers, and with basic monitor settings on. 800x 600

SpArKy
01-11-06, 19:07
You didn't uninstall the previous drivers first? At the point where i put the stars.

Of for god sake, right. Well i am going back so i will un-install them then install the new ones.

I can't keep up, lol.

Joseph
01-11-06, 19:12
To uninstall the old Catalyst, use Catalyst Uninstaller (http://www.jozefdekkers.nl/Trforum/Computer/cat-uninstaller.zip).

SpArKy
01-11-06, 19:19
I un installed them and windows has tried searching windows update with no luck so i am going to download them now?

Should i install the monitor drivers after the Graphics card drivers has installed!

Joseph
01-11-06, 19:23
installed them and windows has tried searching windows update Why??? For what? so i am going to download them now?
Download what? Be exact please.
Should i install the monitor drivers
Does your monitor need drivers? Just treat it as the standard monitor.

After you have installed SP2:
First uninstall the old Catalyst (using Catalyst Uninstaller).
Then install Microsoft. Net Framework <---download HERE (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/info.aspx?na=90&p=&SrcDisplayLang=en&SrcCategoryId=&SrcFamilyId=0856eacb-4362-4b0d-8edd-aab15c5e04f5&u=http://download.microsoft.com/download/5/6/7/567758a3-759e-473e-bf8f-52154438565a/dotnetfx.exe)
Then install the latest catalyst 6.10. <--download from HERE (https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=293)

SpArKy
01-11-06, 19:27
Well i have downloaded the latest Radeon Drivers from the link you gave me, but just the Display drivers this time.

No my Monitor is a Flatpanel LG Flatron 1715S.


Well it loaded up and then restarted and i get the same message saying 'Out of Range'.

I will go back and try the full Catalyst Control Centre again...:(

SpArKy
01-11-06, 19:29
Why??? For what?

It detected a 'Video Controller' and 'Video Controller (VGA)' which is my graphics card!

Download what? Be exact please.

The Grpahics card drivers

Does your monitor need drivers? Just treat it as the standard monitor.

I think it does need drivers, but i am treating it as a monitor for now.

After you have installed SP2:
First uninstall the old Catalyst (using Catalyst Uninstaller).
Then install Microsoft. Net Framework
Then install the latest catalyst 6.10. <--download from www.ati.com (http://www.ati.com)
I am doing it again now. (Tut, i wrote inside your quote sorry)

Joseph
01-11-06, 19:32
Your monitor may be a a Flatpanel LG Flatron 1715S, but nevertheless you can just treat it as standard monitor.

After you have installed SP2:
1. First uninstall the old Catalyst (using Catalyst Uninstaller).
2. Reboot the PC.
3. Windows will detect the card and attempt to install drivers for it. CANCEL!!! Cancel all Windows messages.
4. Then install Microsoft. Net Framework <---download HERE (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/info.aspx?na=90&p=&SrcDisplayLang=en&SrcCategoryId=&SrcFamilyId=0856eacb-4362-4b0d-8edd-aab15c5e04f5&u=http://download.microsoft.com/download/5/6/7/567758a3-759e-473e-bf8f-52154438565a/dotnetfx.exe)
5. Then install the latest catalyst 6.10. <--download from HERE (https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=293)

SpArKy
01-11-06, 19:46
Your monitor may be a a Flatpanel LG Flatron 1715S, but nevertheless you can just treat it as standard monitor.

After you have installed SP2:
1. First uninstall the old Catalyst (using Catalyst Uninstaller).
2. Reboot the PC.
3. Windows will detect the card and attempt to install drivers for it. CANCEL!!! Cancel all Windows messages.
4. Then install Microsoft. Net Framework <---download HERE (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/info.aspx?na=90&p=&SrcDisplayLang=en&SrcCategoryId=&SrcFamilyId=0856eacb-4362-4b0d-8edd-aab15c5e04f5&u=http://download.microsoft.com/download/5/6/7/567758a3-759e-473e-bf8f-52154438565a/dotnetfx.exe)
5. Then install the latest catalyst 6.10. <--download from HERE (https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=293)

Did exactly what you said. But still no luck.

'Smart Guide needs to test you optimal graphics processer'

Screen goes black and does not come back, it then restarts.

It then gets to the log in screen, screen goes a little funny. Then it goes into power saving mode again, with the light going amber again.

SpArKy
01-11-06, 19:51
Just going back before i install the graphics drivers.

Joseph
01-11-06, 21:25
This is absolutely rediculous.

From the dxdiag report on page 1 i see that graphics- and sounddrivers are not installed. They need to be, and they can. Always.

Maybe your starting point is not right.

Let me sketch the situation.

1. Previously, you had XP Pro SP1. Why didn't you update to SP2 earlier is a mystery to me. Anyway...
2. You decided to install SP2.
3. Then monitor behaves weird. As you say in post #1, you think that is because the graphics drivers need updated. I find strange that you think about this at this point, and not earlier.
As the dxdiag report on Page 1 shows, you have not installed any drivers for video nor sound.
4. The struggle in this thread.

Did you format and re-install Windows XP? (and this is a legal version ok?). IF you formatted, did you select FULL Format?

If you did NOT re-install XP, what was the situation before: is the Radeon 9600 only recently (physically) installed? How did it work all the time without drivers installed??? :confused:

Tomb_Vader
02-11-06, 01:20
I think that SmartGART thing (not "Smart Guide," is it?) is the part that checks the card's current AGP bus speed and sets it to what it considers the maximum safe speed (be that 1x, 2x or 4x) for the card to cooperate with the AGP bus. If there is some way to cancel that testing/auto-adjustment procedure, try that. If you can't, perhaps the BIOS lets you set the maximum allowed AGP bus speed (or a jumper on the motherboard).
This is a long shot, I know, but I know it's possible for the GPU to crash/hang and cause the monitor to go into standby (or just blank out). The Catalyst driver should be able to restart the GPU in such a case but it may fail for some reason - thus the issues you're having with the monitor blanking out.
Hopefully this will get you somewhere. I agree with Joseph, the whole thing is ridiculous...

SpArKy
02-11-06, 09:23
This is absolutely rediculous.

From the dxdiag report on page 1 i see that graphics- and sounddrivers are not installed. They need to be, and they can. Always.

Maybe your starting point is not right.

Let me sketch the situation.

1. Previously, you had XP Pro SP1. Why didn't you update to SP2 earlier is a mystery to me. Anyway...

i installed Windows Xp pro but it came with SP1 everything works fine with monitor on basic

2. You decided to install SP2.

Yes because almost everything needs SP2.

3. Then monitor behaves weird. As you say in post #1, you think that is because the graphics drivers need updated. I find strange that you think about this at this point, and not earlier.
As the dxdiag report on Page 1 shows, you have not installed any drivers for video nor sound.

This is corrent becuase if i did the comptuer would crash and not allow me to change anything.

4. The struggle in this thread.

Did you format and re-install Windows XP? (and this is a legal version ok?). IF you formatted, did you select FULL Format?

Yes complete format (as far as i know PC World sells legal ones lol)

If you did NOT re-install XP, what was the situation before: is the Radeon 9600 only recently (physically) installed? How did it work all the time without drivers installed??? :confused:
Basically the situation now is, i have everything installed incl SP2, but without any Graphcis cards drivers, becuase this is the only thing i have left to do. Themonitor is working but on basic settings.

Its when i Install the Graphics Cards drivers that the problem occurs, i think you getting confused because i have tried with both old drivers installed and none.

SpArKy
02-11-06, 09:24
I think that SmartGART thing (not "Smart Guide," is it?) is the part that checks the card's current AGP bus speed and sets it to what it considers the maximum safe speed (be that 1x, 2x or 4x) for the card to cooperate with the AGP bus. If there is some way to cancel that testing/auto-adjustment procedure, try that. If you can't, perhaps the BIOS lets you set the maximum allowed AGP bus speed (or a jumper on the motherboard).
This is a long shot, I know, but I know it's possible for the GPU to crash/hang and cause the monitor to go into standby (or just blank out). The Catalyst driver should be able to restart the GPU in such a case but it may fail for some reason - thus the issues you're having with the monitor blanking out.
Hopefully this will get you somewhere. I agree with Joseph, the whole thing is ridiculous...

Basically yes, it starts to do some checks and never recovers.

SpArKy
02-11-06, 09:40
I tried a different monitor and it sats 'Self Test - Check Monitor Lead and PC - Monitor is fine'

How wierd, lol. I think i will give up.

SpArKy
02-11-06, 09:50
Maybe its time we upgraded what is windows vista like?

Do you think it would sove this problem and is it out yet?

Joseph
02-11-06, 10:35
You did not answer this question: when did you install the Radeon card into the PC?
And yes Tomb_Vader is right, and that is the point i was aiming to: if you installed the card yourself, you should check in the BIOS about disabling onboard graphics and enabling AGP. You made clear that you have no clue what to do in BIOS, so i think you never done that.
I would like to hear more about when and how that card was installed.

SpArKy
02-11-06, 11:00
It doesnt really matter because i reverted and followed your instructions exactly. There was no drivers for the Graphics card after SP2. So i then followed your instructions.

As far as the BIOS is concered i know how to use it, but i dont know exactly what to Disable and Enable.

SpArKy
02-11-06, 11:05
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/SpArKy18/th_Latest.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/SpArKy18/Latest.jpg)

But only because windows has decided not to ask me to look for drivers for the graphics card and just installed them. I took a screen shot of how it looks and i am about to restart.

It went into power mode going to revert before it again lol.

So it will be SP2, basic monitor with no graphics cards as yet.

Joseph
02-11-06, 23:15
I would like to hear more about when and how that card was installed.And Sparky's reply to that was...It doesnt really matter because ....:D
Sparky, still i would like to know when and how that card was installed.
Because:
did the PC use an onboard graphics chip before you put in the radeon card?
If so, it should have been uninstalled first and then disabled in the BIOS.

EscondeR
03-11-06, 04:29
did the PC use an onboard graphics chip before you put in the radeon card?
If so, it should have been uninstalled first and then disabled in the BIOS.

This was exactly the thing I wanted to know, too ;) But made no progress though :D

SpArKy
04-11-06, 22:34
I dont know how i would tell. It must use on board still because i have XP running still but with no graphics cards installed.

Tomb_Vader
05-11-06, 03:04
Here's a thought... if you can dig up a second monitor, connect it to the unused video-out port on your card, and see if you get an image... Actually, I believe you mentioned much earlier in this thread that the primary output is DVI but you only have a VGA monitor. (Correct me if I'm wrong.) If so, might I suggest you pick up a DVI-to-VGA adapter and plug your monitor into the primary output (which is the preferred option anyway)? :)

EscondeR
05-11-06, 08:48
I dont know how i would tell. It must use on board still because i have XP running still but with no graphics cards installed.

You can't install graphics card normally just because your onboard one is still active and used as primary while booting Windows...


Sparky, still i would like to know when and how that card was installed.
Because:
did the PC use an onboard graphics chip before you put in the radeon card?
If so, it should have been uninstalled first and then disabled in the BIOS. ;)