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WhosaidAODwasbad
08-11-06, 16:39
IN the original Tomb Raider the very Beginning cutscene is an explosion in Los Alamos, New Mexico. I think I remember the person inside the object is Natla. I want to know why is she buried in the New Mexico desert and is there any relievance with her and the Labs there. Maybe that is where she first started to create the Atlantian race again! I am still confused why did they pick that location out of many others there has to be some reason of a sort! Also will Crystal and Toby GArd expand on the cutscenes and info that just doesn't make sense or is rare in the original game, in the Anniversary!
The way I see it was that after the Cataclysm, some of the continent of Atlantis (TR WORLD Atlantis that is) sank/shifted around the world. When that happened, the part of the continent in which Natla was buried must have neared itself to New Mexico. Then in the clip we see a distant explosion (not necessarily in Los Alamos) which is where the cap off her seal lands. When the dust settles we see inside the Seal where Natla is entombed.
Maybe I'm wrong, or maybe Los Alamos was originally part of the Continent Atlantis - that's where she was buried, and rose again.
WhosaidAODwasbad
08-11-06, 16:50
I am just think that Where is Natla Technologies then, is it in a major city or somewhere in New Mexico. Also I am just guessing but I think there is a link between the atlantians and los alamos, alot of movies and games bring in los alamos because of its nuclear experiments, such as Half life is based on a lab in New Mexico!
Also Lara meets larson in panama right? I wonder why see is there?
Maybe Natla Tech is somewhere in a city in New Mexico. It's never revealed in that clip..
Lara meets Larson in Calcutta - if that's near Panama, I've no idea. Lara was (as far as we know) simply sitting down in Calcutta, after 'Stamping Out Bigfoot' [we don't know where].
WhosaidAODwasbad
08-11-06, 16:55
Don't you think lara taking down bigfoot should be a level. I sure think so it should start during the day and be kinda like the Ghana level, some swimming jump and then it turns dark and you have to find your way to bigfoots cave or whatever he is in.
Could be a great training level :tmb:
Yea i agree! Although the mansion would be a better training ground :p
No, but bringing the whole Bigfoot bit into it might not be such a bad idea!
Well of course the mansion! :D Just pad the game out a bit ;) Though I doubt they'd put the bigfoot level in there because it has nothing to do with the plot.
Shark_Blade
08-11-06, 17:33
I wanna fight the bigfoot, and no more interactive cutscenes and snore-fest motorbike section. We had enough of that.
edit: I literally fall asleep when playing Kazakhstan motorbike level, my sister laughed at me because I'm not watching the tv, the tv is watching me.
Poor bigfoot, everyone is picking on him in commercials (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2d_m2OVa_g) and now you guys want to hunt him in the game! :ton:
Shark_Blade
08-11-06, 17:53
The bigfoot deserves to be stomp!:mis:
los alamos is because the experiments,.. the neclear experiments by accident unleash natla,. she was buried in new mexico, because new mexico was the really farther place on earth back them in the beginning of times,.. somewhere could have been inhabited already,.. so, they buried lara in the only place no men live, and core use it also to make an accident happen,.. the explotion is obviously an tomic bomb, as we all know from the us goverment.. whish had the power to open natlas tomb, and therefore she got out,..and please,.. calcuta is inindia,.. what makes more sence coz its closer to the himalayas than panama,.....
LegendLuvr24
08-11-06, 19:15
What if they expand that intro cutscene? Show a military base doing nuclear experiments and the explosion then results in the cap exploding off of Natla's tomb.
It would be even better to close in on the eyes (never revealing who it is but showing a shadowed face) then those eyes open..everything going black, and then the scene instantly changing to the Larson bit.
I can't see how a nuclear/atomic or Any kind of bomb explosion could've opened Natla's 'tomb'.
It's deep underground. How would a detonation explode the buried seal off her 'tomb', up through earth and rock, out into the sky, and land a good few miles away? That doesn't make any sense to me.
LegendLuvr24
08-11-06, 19:26
Nuclear explosions have a lot of power to them Rivendell, it can cause quite an earthquake a few miles away from the point of detonation.
The more I think about it though...we see an explosion, then we see the disc flying. So maybe the explosion was triggered by Natla somehow? Who knows.
it doesnt make sence?.... the alamos is known for the military experiments,.. if it wasnt because of that then they wouldnt have post it,.. (los alamos), or they wouldnt have bother to make the explotion like a nuke,.. and just ending,.. why now and not anyother time,... thy didnt reveal enought information to us as to understand that natla could have not been able to unfreeze herself until now,..,.. the only pointing we have is this snake, and the los alamos post,.. which lead us directly to almost nuclear underground experiment,...
and yes,.. a nuke have the power to destroy a bloody entire city,.. i dont see why it should not have to power to unlock a frozen capsule... c'mon,.. ;)
A coherent story line that made sense was never Core's strongest suit.
oh c'mon,.. it is,.. well not really that their stories were always 100% good, but obviously were not really crappy,.. never where,.. not even in the infamous Chronicles (i love TR: C) and it was the first game,. it was made really interesting,.. althou they have lots of mistakes along the game,.. mixing cultures, not only messing with the greeks,.. but even with the mayan and incas... but there are lots of thing "obvious things" made to make some sence,.. los alamos post (once again) is one of them, and the bomb smoke form thing (once more) too....
A coherent story line that made sense was never Core's strongest suit.
I don't expect war and peace from a TR game, just a lot of fun, excitement and adventure. This is one game where the story just isn't THAT important to me. A lot of storytelling is filler to cover all the detail, in a game it can be a waste of time you could have been having fun instead of getting bored trying to figure the story part out. I liked the way corer strung things together, it wasn't so serious that I had to pick it apart for not being cohesive enough. The story in a TR game is just an excuse to get to the gameplay. It is not a movie and does not have to tell a story the way a movie does.
I don't expect war and peace from a TR game, just a lot of fun, excitement and adventure. This is one game where the story just isn't THAT important to me. A lot of storytelling is filler to cover all the detail, in a game it can be a waste of time you could have been having fun instead of getting bored trying to figure the story part out. I liked the way corer strung things together, it wasn't so serious that I had to pick it apart for not being cohesive enough. The story in a TR game is just an excuse to get to the gameplay. It is not a movie and does not have to tell a story the way a movie does.
As I sample the reviews of many recent games one of the most frequent criticisms that appear is that the story line is weak and the characterizations are undeveloped. The reviewers even dinged Gears of War which is about as straight forward a shotter as you can get) I expect that a quick route to extinction is to ignore the story. When the graphics were relatively poor you could get away with a short cartoony story line. The gamer population is more sophisticated and the expectations are higher. CD would ignore that at their risk.
Maybe Natla Tech is somewhere in a city in New Mexico. It's never revealed in that clip..
Lara meets Larson in Calcutta - if that's near Panama, I've no idea. Lara was (as far as we know) simply sitting down in Calcutta, after 'Stamping Out Bigfoot' [we don't know where].
Calcutta (Kolkata) is in India. Panama is in Central America.
and yes,.. a nuke have the power to destroy a bloody entire city,.. i dont see why it should not have to power to unlock a frozen capsule... c'mon,.. ;)
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/5904/nucoc6.jpg
Check out the clip (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6a0FosttxRY) - it just explodes for no reason.
As I sample the reviews of many recent games one of the most frequent criticisms that appear is that the story line is weak and the characterizations are undeveloped. The reviewers even dinged Gears of War which is about as straight forward a shotter as you can get) I expect that a quick route to extinction is to ignore the story. When the graphics were relatively poor you could get away with a short cartoony story line. The gamer population is more sophisticated and the expectations are higher. CD would ignore that at their risk.
Just bad reviewers in my opinion. They are judging a game by movie criterium instead of based on the fact that it's a game they are reviewing. A games main emphisis is on gameplay and fun, not rounding out the characters and filling in every last detail of the story. As it is I hate that movies overdo these two things. That is when a movie gets boring and drags on, because they are trying to explain too much. I don't need to be beaten over the head with the facts, I get it! I usually can say what's going to happen next before it happens in movies any more.. far too predictable! :(
Hey riv, natla's tomb didn't explode for no reason. Imagine the gas she must have had being cooped up for 2000 years! :cln: :ton:
Na...Krycekuva is right .....the explosion in the begining of the game is a atomic bomb.....
Los Alamos, New mexico is famous for being the spot where the US tested their first atomic bomb......I always assumed that the first scene in TR occurs in the 1940s......and Natla manages to gain her finanicial power over the ensuing 60 years....if you notice, the first scene with Lara, it says "Imperial Hotel Calcutta - Present day"...Almost as if they are trying to tell you that the previous scence (with the explosion) occured in the past.........
And if you look at the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6a0FosttxRY&mode=related&search=
the thing that flies away from the explosion and lands isnt Natlas tomb.....its just a cover or something...after the explosion the camera travels into a deep hole, where you see the prison open up and free Natla...
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