View Full Version : Would you want Lara Croft this real in TRAE?
tlr online
10-11-06, 02:59
To go the nVidia homepage:
http://www.nvidia.com/page/home.html
Wait for the flash to load. Check out the digital woman on the right. She will look from right to left. Would you want a game with Lara Croft that real?
Think about how that would look on this model of Lara. Would you really want to make Lara that believable? I mean, wouldn't that be a bit too real?
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q57/McJustin/Fun/screen9.jpg
GodOfLight
10-11-06, 03:02
i guess so yes :D lara would look great :jmp: however, defenetly minus all the gloss makeup they seem to like to put on her now to show off these new effects.
Whoa! :D I think it would be awesome, so long as she still looked and acted like our Lara. =]
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!!!!!!
THAT WAS SO COOL!!!!! tHE PS3 WILL ROCK!!
OMG!!!!!:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: THATS SO REAL!!!
I wouldn't mind Lara looking like that in TRAE but I doubt my PC will be able to play it. :)
No,I wouldn't.
It's somehow scary watching such a level of reality in a game, where it's supposed to exist quite a defined difference between reality and fantasy.
Personally,I'd find disturbing playing such an humanized figure, being killed,etc.
Some realism is good,but not that much,for me.
SpongeBob Lover
10-11-06, 03:18
i would like lara to stay the way she is.......too real is not too right for me i guess :o :D but man it would look totally awsome!! :jmp:
I would. I think it looks a bit stupid having a cartoonish looking character in realistic environments.
Wow that is amazing, I must say. I wouldn't mind Lara looking that realistic, CD needs to make her look less barbieish. :p
No,I wouldn't.
It's somehow scary watching such a level of reality in a game, where it's supposed to exist quite a defined difference between reality and fantasy.
Personally,I'd find disturbing playing such an humanized figure, being killed,etc.
Some realism is good,but not that much,for me.
I don't want that to, Lara Legend is enougth humanized... But I think there's nothing we can do anyway, unfortenly most games care more about being more reallistic forgentting creativity, result = crap Luckly there's still companies triyng to go further, like Nintendo with DS and Wii...
And I thought TRAE was gonna be PS2-PC-PSP only, wouldn't it only work on 360/PS3? :p
BoyTRaider
10-11-06, 03:45
Lol, I thought so too MattTR.
Either way, the answer is yes - for future games in PS3/PC/360. :)
Melonie Tomb Raider
10-11-06, 04:00
Yes, I think it would be great!
Tomb Raider 5194
10-11-06, 04:11
Ive always tried to imagine Lara very real but cant get the sense of it lol, it would be awesome if she appeared in the game very real. :jmp:
gerihalliwell
10-11-06, 04:59
Ooo yes I do! That looks really cool.
Tomb_Vader
10-11-06, 05:58
Holy cow. :jmp:
I can just see Alister getting a moustache now, thanks to DirectX 10.
:p
Just leave it to one of our Art Work Members to make Lara like that soon and then we'll see how she looks.
Yea i do want Lara to look like that.
Personally I don't think that woman looks very real at all. Lara is quite close to that already ...I dunno what it is but these videogame people aren't too good at making characters look really real. I think its the eyes, particularly in Lara's case, she'd look a lot more real if her eyes were smaller and shaped properly.
I'm all for her looking like that, she'd look awesome :tmb:
CardinalXimenez
10-11-06, 09:01
Her eyes still look too CG for her to be quite right, so IŽd want graphics to advance a little further before I want to see Lara like that. Would look hot as :cen: though. :cln:
If everything in the game got that high of a render it would run so slow I'd fall asleep waiting to get her to jump... :rolleyes:
Not at the expence of the of making the game smaller, less levels etc.
Wow...now that's awesome! So much detail!
I can see more of the old Lara in this model rather than in Legend Lara. So, if possible, bring it on! :jmp:
C.d Please Make Lara That Real Edio$ Has Lot$ Of Money. :D
I would, yes. But not in TR:Anniversary. That would be too soon, I believe. Thanks for the link. :)
...not to put too fine a point on it, not bein' funny, at the end of the day...
YES!
:wve:
Crofty_Tomb
10-11-06, 15:39
As much more realistic she is us much more we can believe in the character. And the woman that moves left and right, is she from a real game!? If yes then it has great graphics. (I hope Xbox360 would look like that)
I don't want Lara Croft to be this real. This kind of graphics is directly inside the uncanny valley (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_Valley) (Legend is already quite close to this in next-gen). I'd rather have Lara stay just a little cartoony, at least as long as Crystal won't manage to give us graphics that look like real actors in TV/cinema.
WhosaidAODwasbad
10-11-06, 17:12
Yes, As long as the realism doesn't translate to real gameplay. Like Legend they made her look great but then took away all her cool trick. You got to make lara real, but not her ablities she is like a superhero. As long as they don't make her super real in her abilities I'll be okay. Its tomb raider you fight supernatural, unknown creatures all kinds of stuff. So I like it alot. But as long as she can be super woman the better.
Wow! She looks like a real person. I wouldn't mind Lara looking like that but it's getting creepy how 'real' they're making her look. It's a video game afterall.
that would be amazing! im all for realism :D
That realism can only be performed by an extreme high end videocard like the GF 8800GTX in a high end PC. That is only a demonstration of what that card is capable of, but there will pass considerable time before that level of detail is common in games.
Yes i would very much like to see that. Games are becoming more and more detailed, Tomb Raider is no exception. Still, i think TR should remain playable on a middle-of-the-road PC.
Don't see a big difference from what I'm already seeing using my current Nvidia card. There are some more details and the eye movements are pretty real.
The thing is, the in-game Legend Lara is not exactly what you see on the Legend box cover. The preference being the later. Keeping with the tradition of game Lara not looking like box cover Lara.
i guess nobody will read this,,. but,.. as much as i like tomb raider i always love walt disney 1st part movies,.. i always did, one day i realice that it was a huge deal and business, which was not made for nothing else but for maing money, and along with it i realice that there were aswell other companies, warner brothers,.. my point is if you ever compared one single walt disney first part movie, to another one from warner brothers (cartoon one) you will realice that they come to close to real human movement,.. and along with that, the movie looses all the magic,.. anastacia (wb) its a bibid exsample of a terrible movie, too much dramatism in the movement makes her and the rest of the cast complettely unbelievable,.. as much as on the other hand lift walt disney with the unreal details on the faces,... the square chapes of the faces, the round eyes, the animation and technology,.. they understand that coming along with reality doesnt mean nice movie, on the contrary,.. if ever we would like to see a real person movie, we could watch it,.. if it comes to a cartoon movie, then who cares,.. its just a cartoon,.. i mean thats the point,.. we want a cartoon movie. i would really mind to have lara with the highest details,.. but... for what,.. she already have lotssss of them, and she finally reach a nice details stage,.. as long as she stands being a great game i would be really nice,... look at the final fantasy movies,.. i doesnt take a genious to realice which was the best of them both,.. the incredible almost real graphics,. or the manga one,.. but with the good background and the great action,.. thats what i like in tomb raider,.. such a level of details will maybe, make lara look a little bit xtrange,.. in a non real enviroment... sadly, the enviroments are a bit more difficult to develop because ,as lara, they have so much details or even more,.. after all we get closer to the enviroment than to lara...
long live lara croft and the tomb raider series,... but as the little prince once said,.. the esential is invisible to the eyes,.. in this case,.. it doesnt need high levels of detailss to have a nice game,..
i vote for the game,...
probably the only good cartoon movies of warner brothers are the real cartoon ones,.. bugs bunny,... and all the batman franchrise,... the batman more than the superman ones,.. the ones of the square shaped faces,.. and the grey and black costumes...
they really get the point of the comics,.. well a little bit childish,. bu you can always find the uncut version.... they are even more serious than the stupid batman movies...:(
I would like to see the character's animation maintain equality with the detail of the environment. I am currently playing COD3 and the environment is very detailed but the animation of the characters has not quite kept up and it is noticeable and distracting. GOW, on the other hand, I think has done a very good job.
I think I would like that kind of graphics in itself, but it's very unlikely that my PC would be able to handle it, as it can't even run Next Gen. :( So, on the whole, no, I guess.
I don't want Lara Croft to be this real. This kind of graphics is directly inside the uncanny valley (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_Valley) (Legend is already quite close to this in next-gen). I'd rather have Lara stay just a little cartoony, at least as long as Crystal won't manage to give us graphics that look like real actors in TV/cinema.
Interesting concept - the uncanny valley, that is. Though I don't think Legend came anywhere close to it.
I would love for Lara (and her surrounding environment) to look that realistic. The next generation Legend graphics are great, but imagine how much better they could be for TR8 in a couple years on PC, 360 and PS3. The PC version could still have the option to turn next gen off or on depending upon the capabilities of your machine.
Technology needs aside, I don't see why not. It looks great.
ok,. i just read about the Uncanny Valley,.. i guess that explains a lot what i just said above
illuminati30
10-11-06, 19:04
Why do you ask? Is she going to? :p
thepetemaster
10-11-06, 19:04
Quite simply, NO.
All that power should go into the levels - not Lara graphics. Geez. What is the world coming to?
http://www.gameinformer.com/News/Story/200611/N06.1108.1907.24115.htm
I posted this link in the future TR forum but I think it is also app;licable here. I like the last line.
Laras Backpack
10-11-06, 20:13
Wow- Adrianne Curry- the first winner of America's Next Top Model! :jmp: I really liked her and was so happy when she won that show. *cough* :o
Anyway, I wouldn't mind it too much. But deep down the answer is no. It looks great but I don't want to see a realistic looking woman impaled on spikes or eaten by a T-Rex. A little too real for me. :)
Lara's Boy
10-11-06, 20:16
I would love it if Lara were that detailed and realistic, but only if having her be that way doesn't detract from the gameplay or level design/capability.
great now being a top model, slim, bullimic top model is better than being a tomb raider,.. i guess lara could eat her shorts and everything and still would be the same lara,.. sad this adrianne curry wont be able even to drink water with out vomiting,...;)
well sad for her,.. i still love my lara croft,..
Yes, I sure would like to see Lara Croft as realistic as possible. But everyone knows it's not possible in AE. Maybe later.
I was expecting to say no! LOL BUT ITS AMAZING :D
I would love Lara Croft were that detailed and realistic, myself. :D
MelikeLara
10-11-06, 21:45
not in TRAE, but maybe TR8/9
Sure, why not push the limits
tombraiderluka
10-11-06, 23:20
It would be awesome,although I won't be able to play that game then awww:(
That is my dawgs at Crystal keepin' it real.
cococomics_pres
11-11-06, 03:16
No,I wouldn't.
It's somehow scary watching such a level of reality in a game, where it's supposed to exist quite a defined difference between reality and fantasy.
Personally,I'd find disturbing playing such an humanized figure, being killed,etc.
Some realism is good,but not that much,for me.
Definately a big ditto on this one. That person is WAY too real looking for a game in my opinion.
xMiSsCrOfTx
11-11-06, 04:39
Wow.. That's actually pretty scary. :eek: I mean, she looks good and all, but I would be scared to see Lara look that realistic! Lol, it looks more real than real!
mau3genius
11-11-06, 04:51
Not for me. I've grown to love our unrealistic (and a bit exagerated) Lara model. Making it too real would be slowly killing the essence of the character.
htey should post that energie into the graphics,.. we like tomb raider as unreal as she is already,.. after all we are playing into unrealistic worlds,.. we dont want a next final fantasy spirit within...
xcrushterx
11-11-06, 11:17
i would love it to look real
sam_raider_05
11-11-06, 11:27
I would love it if Lara looked that detailed, imagine what they would be able to do with environments and stuff with this technology too :)
Zelda master
11-11-06, 12:01
no thats just WAY to scary
I'd love her to be THAT real :D
Oooh! thats amazing. I'd love for Lara to be that realistic:D
well i guess theres more people wanting her to evolve into a high detail level than the people who doesnt,...
why not to make a poll out of this?...
Yeah, Actually, but only if they make it look like Lara. (The Picture from Legend)
No,I wouldn't.
It's somehow scary watching such a level of reality in a game, where it's supposed to exist quite a defined difference between reality and fantasy.
Personally,I'd find disturbing playing such an humanized figure, being killed,etc.
Some realism is good,but not that much,for me.
I think the level of realism shoud stop when they reach in game graphics like Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children or things will get out of hand. I may sound like the crazy preacher guy with the bible in his hand screeching out that the apocalypse is coming but in a way it is. When something is very believable, people will believe (the younger generation which i'm still part of) what's acceptable in games is acceptable in real life. When it isn't: there's a certain amount of something good you can have too much and it all goes wrong. In short no i would not want Lara to be like that :)
No,I wouldn't.
It's somehow scary watching such a level of reality in a game, where it's supposed to exist quite a defined difference between reality and fantasy.
Personally,I'd find disturbing playing such an humanized figure, being killed,etc.
Some realism is good,but not that much,for me.
I think the level of realism shoud stop when they reach in game graphics like Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children or things will get out of hand. I may sound like the crazy preacher guy with the bible in his hand screeching out that the apocalypse is coming but in a way it is. When something is very believable, people will believe (the younger generation which i'm still part of) what's acceptable in games is acceptable in real life. When it isn't: there's a certain amount of something good you can have too much and it all goes wrong. In short no i would not want Lara to be like that :)I think these are really good points (:tmb:) and something that bothers me too. I don't mind blasting away at people in games at the moment, but I do wonder how I'll feel when it looks really real.
I don't think these concerns will stop the trend towards reality though. I mean in films we get to see all sorts of things that look real and gruesome.
But I do wonder what impact it'll have on mainstream gaming in the future...
Most of the mainstream aren't that interested in films like The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (rightly or wrongly) because they don't want stuff like that shoved in their faces. As games get more and more realistic, will mainstream gamers feel similar about their games too?
I wonder if this will mean a shift away from mainstream games based on murdering 100's of people, to different types of problems/obstacles in a quest, or if they'll tidy up what's happening in other ways - no blood or intestines spilling out for example, when the shotgun blasts a hole in the "looks real" person on screen...??
Trouble is... we adjust so quickly to what's presented to us. When I first shot the wolves in TR1 I was new to that kind of realistic gaming, and I admit I had a twang of conscience... I'm a big animal lover and it felt a bit iffy blasting away at them. But within 5 minutes I had accepted the "unreality" of the situation and it never troubled me again.
I wonder if... no matter how real it looks onscreen, the fact that it is only onscreen will enable us to always differentiate it as unreality, and so not be something to worry about...
Films get more and more gruesome every day, so why not games...
Maybe with Virtual Reality (if/when it comes), when we are immersed in a world that looks and responds (or should) like genuine reality, it will a different matter.
:confused:
george_croft
11-11-06, 15:32
Omg, Thats Adrianne Curry. She was the winner of Topmodel1:D
Seeing that kind of graphics in a TR or any other game would be great. Not as a main priority (that will always be gameplay and story IMO), but as an added bonus.
xcrushterx
11-11-06, 16:09
Hey people graphics will probobly get that good in the years to come
I don't mind either way though da thing was pretty scary if y'ask me!
As long as it's PROPER Lara I don't fink it matters right?
x.
My graphics card is already an old slipper, how nice. *growls*
I am not sure about Lara looking like that yet, as she was always a bit bettween cartoon and reality. It had to be very well done, they had to model her from a real person.
LegendLuvr24
12-11-06, 02:04
Yes please. Lara needs to be dripping polygons.
Personally l would not mind, so long as it was an extra bonus we did not have to sacrifice gameplay for, l expect the Lara model to be improved in that direction, but l thought somewhere Crystal Dynamics had said they would not go for full photo realism where the Lara model was concerned? No doubt the eyes, skin texture and range of expressions as Lara interacts with the environment will be improved in the upcoming next gen game, and mabe the Anniversary game, if she ends up looking like the Lara on the box cover, or the CGI Lara on the iDVD game cover l will be happy
of course and LARA have to defeat that sucks woman..:mis:
Wow - technology and graphics are getting better. What will we have in another 10 years time, I wonder?
I wouldn't mind that level of detail in TRAE, BUT as long as it didn't steal time away from the developers, when they could be spending their time e.g. coming up with unique challenging puzzles, free-roaming etc... (I've said this before, I know, but it needs saying again)
Actually, Sam Fisher in Splinter Cell is getting more realistic and dishier every time he's in a new game - and that's still on PS2 technology.
xcrushterx
12-11-06, 12:11
the ps4's estimated release is 2016 imagine the graphics then.
illuminati30
12-11-06, 12:55
the ps4's estimated release is 2016 imagine the graphics then.
What!
No chance! So the PS3 is going to linger around for 9 years? I think they will want to keep up with MS so, and i doubt there next console will be 9 years from now!
Wait for the flash to load. Check out the digital woman on the right. She will look from right to left. Would you want a game with Lara Croft that real?
That's Adrianne Curry.
LOL, the press release:
"I am honored to have been selected as the first celebrity for this project," said Adrianne Curry. "The Digital Adrianne is so realistic, it's really trippy. Lara Croft, eat my shorts!"
It looks nice in theory, but would it work well in practise?
All I can think about is probably the same thing that goes through the heads of the people who develop the game: is it viable? Can the average gamer afford a system that can handle graphics of this caliber? As we all know, they most likely create their graphics based on what will sell the most (given the system capabilities of the average user).
That makes me lean more towards a no. If it were possible for every character and object in the game to have this level of detail and for the franchise to still be profitable, I'd say yes.
I'm assuming that the graphics card that can handle those graphics is expensive. Hopefully I'm wrong.
lorien elf
13-11-06, 03:26
^Agreed. Not only would the graphics card be expensive but as well the type of console or system that could manage it, right? And then as some were saying, would all of that be at the expense of the game's overall performance anyway? slower? and then less emphasis/focus on the storyline, or graphics of the environments?
Anyway, I first checked this out on the closed thread, and didn't know beforehand that the model would move, so when it did, it freaked me out. Maybe influences my opinion on it then, but oh well: no. That thing was creepy, I seriously don't want to see that level of realism in the Lara model in the regular game. It's cool that they can do that, but it's still damn creepy. Better to leave one's focus on other aspects of the game, and not the superficial and shallow character model that can't really matter that much in the end. I preferred the old cartoony Lara anyway. I thought AoD Lara was very attractive as she was, and even Legend Lara is better than one so detailed as that creepy moving one.
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