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Anker
17-03-05, 04:42
I'm replaying Old Mill just at the beginning. But I've been wondering if you can get the torch and drop into the small gap (located just when you enter the cave) and get out again with the torch. I've been trying to but i can't (just to know http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif )

Is this possible?

I mean this gap:

http://img97.exs.cx/img97/6284/13ok.jpg

Is it possible to get out of it and still have the torch? :confused:

Nicky
17-03-05, 04:58
Hey Anker http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/wave.gif

Do you mean, by holding the torch all the while? I don't think so http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif The walls of the gap are too tall. Lara has to grab their edges and pull up in order to get out of that gap.

BTW, are you by any chance playing in No Scratch? http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/mischievous.gif http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Anker
17-03-05, 05:09
Ahahaha Nicky http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/wave.gif

Holding the torch as you said, no I don't think so either.

But let's say i was heading for the big chasm (with the rope) to throw the torch at the monsters, and accidentally I fell on this gap. Can I still get the torch out of this place in order to throw it at the monsters?

Nicky BTW you are hidding a crystal ball somewhere? http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/redface.gif
Because I AM playing in no scratch http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/mischievous.gif :D :D

Nicky
17-03-05, 06:14
LOL, I see :D

OK, I tried it and didn't manage to do it, because: you are supposed to press 'Space' in order to throw the torch - right? If you jump upwards while holding the torch and press 'Space', Lara won't throw it. She won't do it even if you release Jump immediately and try pressing 'Space' before she lands. Moreover, if you throw the torch from the back of the gap towards the front, it won't fly high anyway and will end up on the floor of the gap again. I even tried to throw it from a corner, but no success.

Not sure if it's 100% impossible, though. Many things we thought were impossible in TR and then found out there was a way to achieve them.

Originally posted by Anker:
Nicky BTW you are hidding a crystal ball somewhere? Just polished it this morning http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/mischievous.gif http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif :D

Lacek
17-03-05, 12:25
Fallen from light... Reborn in shadow... Haunted by memories... Confronted by evil...

Originally posted by Anker:

Can I still get the torch out of this place in order to throw it at the monsters? I can't exactly remember the place, but if this is the question, than I have to say: yes, it is possible. When I last played TRC (about two years ago), I also wanted to make my way easier, that is why I was experimenting with the same thing. So Nicky, you are right: there's always a way to achieve things.

Anker, if you wish, I can check it once again.

Lacek
17-03-05, 19:09
Fallen from light... Reborn in shadow... Haunted by memories... Confronted by evil...

Oops... http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/whistle.gif I've just realised that I misunderstood your sentence... :rolleyes: Get out the torch of this pit? This I have never tried. But I will. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

Anyways, maybe this will be also interesting:

Lara's going to make it hot for Vladimir...

http://tombraider.central-game.net/lacek/egyeb/lara_torch.jpg

And after a big throw...

http://tombraider.central-game.net/lacek/egyeb/lara_torch3.jpg

...the well-known sadistic hit-and-run... :D

http://tombraider.central-game.net/lacek/egyeb/lara_torch2.jpg

[ 17. March 2005, 19:15: Message edited by: Lacek ]

Anker
17-03-05, 19:42
Lacek http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/wave.gif You did it, didn't you?!! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/jumper.gif

http://tombraider.central-game.net/lacek/egyeb/lara_torch.jpg

That's must be the same torch you collect after the rope swing, right?

Now my question is "How?" :D :D

Lacek
17-03-05, 22:03
Fallen from light... Reborn in shadow... Haunted by memories... Confronted by evil...

Hi Anker! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/wave.gif

Originally posted by Anker:

That's must be the same torch you collect after the rope swing, right? Yes, that is the same torch. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

Well, the solution is very easy. Much easier than getting the torch. I've never done this before, but I found the solution for the first try. Maybe it only didn't came to your mind because it is so clean-cut: RUNNING! ;) :D

[ 17. March 2005, 22:03: Message edited by: Lacek ]

Lacek
18-03-05, 20:09
Fallen from light... Reborn in shadow... Haunted by memories... Confronted by evil...

I made some other pictures... http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

http://tombraider.central-game.net/lacek/egyeb/lara_torch4.jpg

http://tombraider.central-game.net/lacek/egyeb/lara_torch5.jpg

http://tombraider.central-game.net/lacek/egyeb/lara_torch6.jpg

[ 18. March 2005, 20:12: Message edited by: Lacek ]

Anubis_AF
18-03-05, 20:16
[EDIT].

[ 18. March 2005, 20:17: Message edited by: Anubis_AF ]

Anker
19-03-05, 03:20
Lacek how can I climb AND crawl holding the torch? :eek: http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/yikes.gif

PS: Is that a glove? http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/privateeye.gif http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/privateeye.gif

Lacek
19-03-05, 11:27
Fallen from light... Reborn in shadow... Haunted by memories... Confronted by evil...

Hello Anker!

I'm glad you are interested. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif OK, enough of mystery, I hope you were trying it on your own. After all it's better to give a clue for a formula that is leading to your personal success, that helps you later with similar cases, than giving the formula itself which deprives you from the joy of discovery. Though the latter would be better from my point of view if you know what I mean. ;)

To throw the torch over the pit, you have to throw it while running. Then you can get over to the other side, and pick it up again. After that, you can go meeting Vladimir. Only the cut-scene will use the torch-holder Lara (of course it will - according to the game-engine). This will cause that after the cut-scene Lara will have a lowered torch, and she'll be able to do her basic movements (like with lowered guns): run, crouch, climb, etc. But she will frighten the little monster either. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

Originally posted by Anker:

PS: Is that a glove? http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/privateeye.gif http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/privateeye.gif No, it's the scarab... :D

Anubis_AF
19-03-05, 14:14
So it's technically stuck in Lara's hand? Cool :D
Just like the extra pistols in AOD. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/jumper.gif

Joseph
19-03-05, 14:16
Sorry i didn't see this thread earlier. Hehe, in every TR game where there is a torch, i threw the it everywhere i could use it, so in any custom level too. ;)

Lacek
19-03-05, 19:14
Fallen from light... Reborn in shadow... Haunted by memories... Confronted by evil...

Me too, Joseph. ;) It's fun, isn't it? :D

Joseph
20-03-05, 00:58
Yes it is fun, and i usually lose much time exploring, carrying that torch around. :D And i like to have it in places where i shouldn't have it officially. :D
I seldom rush through a TR game. ;)

Anker
20-03-05, 02:46
http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/wave.gif
Cool! I'm going to try it right away!! :D

Anker
20-03-05, 03:06
This is super cool!!!

I just did it! Look!
http://img225.exs.cx/img225/3599/17rs.jpg

http://img225.exs.cx/img225/7474/22ad.jpg

I'm still wondering how that rope didn't catch fire...

Joseph
20-03-05, 03:09
Watch out Anker, because Lara herself can catch fire before you know! :D

Lacek
20-03-05, 11:28
Fallen from light... Reborn in shadow... Haunted by memories... Confronted by evil...

Good job, Anker! I like Lara on the rope! :D

Joseph, I'm not a sprinter either... unless it is necessary. :D

Anker
20-03-05, 15:16
OMG! Lara Burning! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/yikes.gif

I've had bad experiences with Lara involving torches...and worse---> Bettles! :mad: http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif :D

Anker
21-03-05, 01:59
BTW! I remembered something else. If you fall into the gap holding the torch, is it possible to get it out again?

Like in my first screenie... :D

Joseph
21-03-05, 14:43
Why not? :confused:

Nicky
21-03-05, 17:29
Jo http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/wave.gif

Because like I said in my second reply to Anker in this thread:

...you are supposed to press 'Space' in order to throw the torch - right? If you jump upwards while holding the torch and press 'Space', Lara won't throw it. She won't do it even if you release Jump immediately and try pressing 'Space' before she lands. Moreover, if you throw the torch from the back of the gap towards the front, it won't fly high anyway and will end up on the floor of the gap again. I even tried to throw it from a corner, but no success.Maybe it can be done someway, but I doubt it.

Anker
21-03-05, 17:35
Hi! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/wave.gif
Well I think my curiosity is now satisfied http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/jumper.gif http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/jumper.gif

Lacek
21-03-05, 18:10
Anker, I guessed you will ask this... http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/privateeye.gif LOL! :D

Well, I also tried it a few times, and it seems to me also that it will probably not work... at least without cheating. Exactly because of what Nicky said.

NocturnalLiz
25-03-05, 02:41
Originally posted by Anker:
OMG! Lara Burning! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/yikes.gif

I've had bad experiences with Lara involving torches...and worse---> Bettles! :mad: http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif :D Hehe...I too have had bad experiences with Lara involving torches...omg, some where on purpose <.< *Uh-Oh*
lol what
I've put Lara through some hard ****...BUT I LOVE HER Though! :D

adventuregirl
25-05-05, 07:55
Hey, I just have to try that right away! :D One thing I love about Tomb Raiders is that thereīs always something you havenīt done or seen before!

Has anyone managed to climb up from the deep pit below the rope? Once I went down, thinking that there could be a solution because I was stuck in Old Mill but surprise..I got even more stuck! :D