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ILG49ers
13-12-06, 02:50
I was wondering what does Christmas mean to you? For me it’s the day I celebrate my Savior, Jesus Christ birth. Even though it’s a Christian holiday, plenty of Non-Christians still celebrate it for whatever reason…so I was wondering why do you celebrate Christmas, if not for the real meaning of the day?

Kamrusepas
13-12-06, 02:55
It's an International holiday, and my family celebrates it. So I just go with the flow.

2kool4u
13-12-06, 02:55
I doo! Spending time with family is the best part!!

Mr.Burns
13-12-06, 02:58
Being Jewish, I don't celebrate it for it's actual reasons but it's still a good time to be with the family and to go get Chinese food:)

ILG49ers
13-12-06, 03:01
Being Jewish, I don't celebrate it for it's actual reasons but it's still a good time to be with the family and to go get Chinese food:)

Lol, Chinese food? I might have to recommend that for the Christmas dinner this year! :D

Mr.Burns
13-12-06, 03:07
Lol, Chinese food? I might have to recommend that for the Christmas dinner this year! :D

Yup:D Age old Jewish tradition. Actually, my family jokingly calls Xmas, "Jew eat chinese food and see a movie day" Usually chinese food restaurants and movie theaters are packed with my fellow Jewish folk on said day.

GodOfLight
13-12-06, 03:13
Christmas is acctualy a Christian holiday superimposed of the ancient Winter Solstice Celebrations. Most ancient cultures celebrated the birth of the sacred sun child on the date of the Winter Solstice. This is the longest night of the year, however after this night the sun ascends again and the days become longer again minute by minute. To the ancient pagans this was the day that the Mother Goddess gives birth to the sacred sun child... wether it was Isis giving birth to Horus for the ancient Egyptians, or the birth of Dionysus for the Greeks. So, this date is actually a solar event that symbolically represents the birth of the sun/son and has been with us as a pagan holiday for millennia.

Whenever Christianity became the official religion of Rome, no actual birthdate for Jesus could be found. Nowadays historians have researched the events in the nativity story, and have concluded that the birth of Jesus happened sometime in July due to the sheperds herding the sheep when they see the star of Bethlehem (sheep in the middle east are not normally herded in december). So, when at that time no date could be set to celebrate Jesus's birth, something else had to be invented. And so, since all the Pagans they were intent on converting were celebrating the birth of their own sacred sun God on the Winter Solstice, the Church decided to place the birth of their Jesus on this same day and so convert the people easier by keeping the same theme of the birth of the sun/son saviour. At that time around 2,000 years ago the Winter Solstice fell on December 24th/25th, and so this became the calenfar date for Jesus' birth. Nowadays of course the date of the Winter Solstice has shifted due to precision of the planets. However, the birthday of Jesus became fixed on the what we now call Christmas.

So, at it's root this holiday and time of year is not really Christian, and certain traditions such as the Christmas tree (which is a phallic shape representing something i cannot type here because the censorship system of this forum censors a scientific word that begins with a p and ends with an s :rolleyes:) carried over into unknowingly (same with easter eggs which represented testicles to the pagans). Sadly, today this time of year isnt even anything sacred anymore because it has just become and over dose of comercialism and buying presents.

Yet ultimatly it is a very nice time of year, and one that even to me represents the birth of the sacred sun child or in Christian terms "saviour"... for most cultures this became a special time of year to hold sacred simply because it is so cold and dead in most parts of the world, and the sudden cosmolgical "rebirth" of the sun at this time of year with the days getting longer was a time that gave people hope that after the cold winter life will continue. So i think for everyone it can be a special time, and it is defenetly not only a Christian holiday :D

BoyTRaider
13-12-06, 03:14
Family time. :wve:

Kamrusepas
13-12-06, 03:17
Christmas is acctualy a Christian holiday superimposed of the ancient Winter Solstice Celebrations. Most ancient cultures celebrated the birth of the sacred sun child on the date of the Winter Solstice. This is the longest night of the year, however after this night the sun ascends again and the days become longer again minute by minute. To the ancient pagans this was the day that the Mother Goddess gives birth to the sacred sun child... wether it was Isis giving birth to Horus for the ancient Egyptians, or the birth of Dionysus for the Greeks. So, this date is actually a solar event that symbolically represents the birth of the sun/son and has been with us as a pagan holiday for millennia.

Whenever Christianity became the official religion of Rome, no actual birthdate for Jesus could be found. Nowadays historians have researched the events in the nativity story, and have concluded that the birth of Jesus happened sometime in July due to the sheperds herding the sheep when they see the star of Bethlehem (sheep in the middle east are not normally herded in december). So, when at that time no date could be set to celebrate Jesus's birth, something else had to be invented. And so, since all the Pagans they were intent on converting were celebrating the birth of their own sacred sun God on the Winter Solstice, the Church decided to place the birth of their Jesus on this same day and so convert the people easier by keeping the same theme of the birth of the sun/son saviour. At that time around 2,000 years ago the Winter Solstice fell on December 24th/25th, and so this became the calenfar date for Jesus' birth. Nowadays of course the date of the Winter Solstice has shifted due to precision of the planets. However, the birthday of Jesus became fixed on the what we now call Christmas.

So, at it's root this holiday and time of year is not really Christian, and certain traditions such as the Christmas tree (which is a phallic shape representing something i cannot type here because the censorship system of this forum censors a scientific word that begins with a p and ends with an s :rolleyes:) carried over into unknowingly (same with easter eggs which represented testicles to the pagans). Sadly, today it isnt even anything sacred anymore because it has just become and over dose of comercialism and buying presents.

Yet ultimatly it is a very nice time of year, and one that even to me represents the birth of the sacred sun child or in Christian terms "saviour"... for most cultures this became a special time of year to hold sacred simply because it is so cold and dead in most parts of the world, and the sudden cosmolgical "rebirth" of the sun at this time of year with the days getting longer was a time that gave people hope that after the cold winter life will continue. So i think for everyone it can be a special time, and it is defenetly not only a Christian holiday :D

Can't think of anything to add. Except for 'Amen :tmb:'

tombfan91
13-12-06, 03:18
to spend a joyous time with my family and be able to catch up on what we have missed out as a whole.

ILG49ers
13-12-06, 03:44
Christmas is acctualy a Christian holiday superimposed of the ancient Winter Solstice Celebrations. Most ancient cultures celebrated the birth of the sacred sun child on the date of the Winter Solstice. This is the longest night of the year, however after this night the sun ascends again and the days become longer again minute by minute. To the ancient pagans this was the day that the Mother Goddess gives birth to the sacred sun child... wether it was Isis giving birth to Horus for the ancient Egyptians, or the birth of Dionysus for the Greeks. So, this date is actually a solar event that symbolically represents the birth of the sun/son and has been with us as a pagan holiday for millennia.

Whenever Christianity became the official religion of Rome, no actual birthdate for Jesus could be found. Nowadays historians have researched the events in the nativity story, and have concluded that the birth of Jesus happened sometime in July due to the sheperds herding the sheep when they see the star of Bethlehem (sheep in the middle east are not normally herded in december). So, when at that time no date could be set to celebrate Jesus's birth, something else had to be invented. And so, since all the Pagans they were intent on converting were celebrating the birth of their own sacred sun God on the Winter Solstice, the Church decided to place the birth of their Jesus on this same day and so convert the people easier by keeping the same theme of the birth of the sun/son saviour. At that time around 2,000 years ago the Winter Solstice fell on December 24th/25th, and so this became the calenfar date for Jesus' birth. Nowadays of course the date of the Winter Solstice has shifted due to precision of the planets. However, the birthday of Jesus became fixed on the what we now call Christmas.

So, at it's root this holiday and time of year is not really Christian, and certain traditions such as the Christmas tree (which is a phallic shape representing something i cannot type here because the censorship system of this forum censors a scientific word that begins with a p and ends with an s :rolleyes:) carried over into unknowingly (same with easter eggs which represented testicles to the pagans). Sadly, today this time of year isnt even anything sacred anymore because it has just become and over dose of comercialism and buying presents.

Yet ultimatly it is a very nice time of year, and one that even to me represents the birth of the sacred sun child or in Christian terms "saviour"... for most cultures this became a special time of year to hold sacred simply because it is so cold and dead in most parts of the world, and the sudden cosmolgical "rebirth" of the sun at this time of year with the days getting longer was a time that gave people hope that after the cold winter life will continue. So i think for everyone it can be a special time, and it is defenetly not only a Christian holiday :D

I already read up on all of this stuff before and that’s why my family doesn’t even put up a Christmas tree or anything like that. I have to disagree with you though when you say at its root it’s not really Christian. Even though it may not be the actual day that Jesus was born and even though a lot of the traditions that go with Christmas are pagan, in my opinion the ultimate reason this day is still celebrated is for the birth of Jesus, even if the actual date was about 4-5 months back! I mean come on you don’t actually see anyone celebrating the birth of the sacred sun child, do you? So the way and day so many celebrate Christmas may be from pagan traditions, but the reason is ultimately to celebrate the day Jesus was born!

Kamrusepas
13-12-06, 03:51
I mean come on you donít actually see anyone celebrating the birth of the sacred sun child, do you?

No, because the Christians took over and pushed their own traditions on everyone.

[I'm not looking so start an argument here, btw]

Melonie Tomb Raider
13-12-06, 03:53
I was wondering what does Christmas mean to you? For me itís the day I celebrate my Savior, Jesus Christ birth.

Same. :D

Melonie Tomb Raider
13-12-06, 03:56
So the way and day so many celebrate Christmas may be from pagan traditions, but the reason is ultimately to celebrate the day Jesus was born!

Exactly.

CerebralAssassin
13-12-06, 03:58
No, because the Christians took over and pushed their own traditions on everyone.

[I'm not looking so start an argument here, btw]

you mean the christians are shoving their traditions down our throat?what religion are you btw?:D

Kamrusepas
13-12-06, 04:00
what religion are you btw?:D

Devoted and passionate atheist :wve:

GodOfLight
13-12-06, 04:05
So the way and day so many celebrate Christmas may be from pagan traditions, but the reason is ultimately to celebrate the day Jesus was born!

wow, i didnt think the response would be that close minded... i was merely trying to build a peaceful connection between faiths :wve: well, christmas celebrations do actually reach further then the birth of jesus, and a lot of people in the western world are aware of that. but apperently that's not what counts in the mainstream christian world...

so anyway, merry christmas :)

Kamrusepas
13-12-06, 04:12
"Have yourself a merry little Christmas,
Make the Yule-tide gay
From now on,
our troubles will be miles away"

Andariel
13-12-06, 04:13
Gifts and money, money, moooney. Let it roll. :D

kewlkyle64
13-12-06, 04:13
I love Christmas as much as the next guy, but sometimes I think a majority of people don't truly love it for the family part, they enjoy the presents and thats why they love Christmas. For a lot of people, Christmas wouldn't matter without the presents.

Melonie Tomb Raider
13-12-06, 04:16
For a lot of people, Christmas wouldn't matter without the presents.

Yes, sadly that is true. :(

JANKERSON
13-12-06, 04:23
For a lot of people, Christmas wouldn't matter without the presents.


Yes it has been commercialized way too much over the years to the point that the real meaning of Christmas was lost for most people. :(

ILG49ers
13-12-06, 05:03
wow, i didnt think the response would be that close minded... i was merely trying to build a peaceful connection between faiths :wve: well, christmas celebrations do actually reach further then the birth of jesus, and a lot of people in the western world are aware of that. but apperently that's not what counts in the mainstream christian world...

so anyway, merry christmas :)

I'm sorry I sound close minded, but can I say something? Ok, just like Kam is a Devoted and passionate atheist, I'm a Devoted and passionate Christian! I’m going to sound close minded, because I truly believe in what I believe in and I'm going to stand by it! Do you understand where I’m coming from?

Anyway, Merry Christmas to you too! :wve: :)

Medipack
13-12-06, 05:13
I'm sorry I sound close minded, but can I say something? Ok, just like Kam is a Devoted and passionate atheist, I'm a Devoted and passionate Christian! Iím going to sound close minded, because I truly believe in what I believe in and I'm going to stand by it! Do you understand where Iím coming from?

Anyway, Merry Christmas to you too! :wve: :)

However devoted to each of your religions you and Kam are, at least she is still open minded. You must keep that in mind, especially when your own religion dictates that you treat other as you would have them treat you.

GodOfLight
13-12-06, 05:14
I'm sorry I sound close minded, but can I say something? Ok, just like Kam is a Devoted and passionate atheist, I'm a Devoted and passionate Christian! Iím going to sound close minded, because I truly believe in what I believe in and I'm going to stand by it! Do you understand where Iím coming from?

Anyway, Merry Christmas to you too! :wve: :)

i'm not asking you to change your religion Lee, and i'm not even saying anything against it. as i said in my first post: all these religions celebrated the exact same birth-of-a-saviour-idea at this time of year ;) i just felt that this comment was not neccesary:

I mean come on you donít actually see anyone celebrating the birth of the sacred sun child, do you?

Acctually, tonnes of people celebrate it. Including yourself. It just so happens you call him Jesus :wve: Anyway, i was trying to show how all these religions are connected with the exact same beliefs and stories and celebrations. and since i myself am a passionate atheist just like kam, i can understand where you are comming from, and i am not asking you to change your views, but instead perhaps chose to not always think that there is only one true religion when they all actually bleed together ;)

Cochrane
13-12-06, 05:59
Christmas is a nice way to spend time with the family and give and get presents. I don't care about Jesus at all.

Flipper1987
13-12-06, 06:55
No, because the Christians took over and pushed their own traditions on everyone.

[I'm not looking so start an argument here, btw]

Is that how it exactly happened, Kam? Good thing atheists have never done that. Oh wait... :)

Back to the original topic: I will be spending it with my family, enjoying a nice dinner and a cozy fire, and listening to Christmas songs.

FLIPPER

Ikas90
13-12-06, 06:58
To celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ and to have a nice relaxing time with my family :hug:

Flipper1987
13-12-06, 07:17
However devoted to each of your religions you (ILG49ers) and Kam are, at least she is still open minded. You must keep that in mind, especially when your own religion dictates that you treat other as you would have them treat you.

So if you're devoted to a religion and its core beliefs, you're close-minded, but if you're an atheist and reject Christianity (or any religion), you're open-minded? I really hope that is not what you are implying.

FLIPPER

Mad Tony
13-12-06, 07:19
To celebrate the birth of Christ is the main reason. :wve:
But I do enjoy for other reasons as well.

CerebralAssassin
13-12-06, 07:24
So if you're devoted to a religion and its core beliefs, you're close-minded, but if you're an atheist and reject Christianity (or any religion), you're open-minded? I really hope that is not what you are implying.

FLIPPER

being agnostic is about as open-minded as you can get..:D

Jacob x5
13-12-06, 07:27
I don't get super-Christmassy like some, but it's just a nice way to end the year spending time with the family and getting presents. :D

MattTR
13-12-06, 07:37
Christmas is the time of year I get to spend with my family, I lost contact of alot of them, but see them every Christmas and Easter. Ever since my grandma has been in a coma, I don't get excited about Christmas anymore because she was my Christmas. I also celebrate the birth of Jesus and go to church.

Flipper1987
13-12-06, 07:42
being agnostic is about as open-minded as you can get..:D

That depends on who you're talking to. :) As you well know being agnostic means that you believe in God (or some form of Divine Creator) but don't belong to a specific religion. The mere fact that you believe that some entity was responsible for the creation of the universe (and the resulting life) would qualify you as "close-minded" to some atheists.

FLIPPER - who forgot to mention that a Cardinal will be sitting atop my Christmas tree. :)

Jacob x5
13-12-06, 07:45
Close-minded would be if you believe that some entity was responsible for the creation of the universe and the resulting life, but dismiss all other ideas and beliefs as 'wrong'.

Flipper1987
13-12-06, 07:51
Close-minded would be if you believe that some entity was responsible for the creation of the universe and the resulting life, but dismiss all other ideas and beliefs as 'wrong'.

Indeed...and the reverse is true as well.

FLIPPER - who likes to think that God got a "big bang" out of creating the universe. :)

CerebralAssassin
13-12-06, 07:52
FLIPPER - who forgot to mention that a Cardinal will be sitting atop my Christmas tree. :)

oh yeah...GO CARDS!! :yah:

Flipper1987
13-12-06, 07:56
oh yeah...GO CARDS!! :yah:

Cardinals = World Champs!! Truly this is indisputable evidence that Jesus loves us very much. :) :yah:

BlackGrey
13-12-06, 08:14
For a lot of people, Christmas wouldn't matter without the presents.

I'd still celebrate it and it would be less comercial that way :wve: I just like the Christmas spirit and being able to spend time with my family, there's nothing better :)

Kamrusepas
13-12-06, 08:41
Is that how it exactly happened, Kam?

I can't say anything for sure because I wasn't there. And I doubt you were either.

jarhead
13-12-06, 09:03
It's an International holiday, and my family celebrates it. So I just go with the flow.

Same here, I just love the fact that its the time when we're all together and me and my family have a real laugh

GodOfLight
13-12-06, 09:57
That depends on who you're talking to. :) As you well know being agnostic means that you believe in God (or some form of Divine Creator) but don't belong to a specific religion. The mere fact that you believe that some entity was responsible for the creation of the universe (and the resulting life) would qualify you as "close-minded" to some atheists.

FLIPPER - who forgot to mention that a Cardinal will be sitting atop my Christmas tree. :)

actually, being agnostic means that you don't neccesarily believe in god, but you also don't deny god's presence if there is one. to simply put it: being agnostic is being indecisive :)

ELEN
13-12-06, 10:12
This is a personal belief and you do as you feel. I'm Orthodox Christian and believe in God and His son. I don't believe in Him because my parents asked me to, but because I have read and decided by myself. As an Orthodox Christian, I celebrate Christ's birth.

angelika
13-12-06, 10:16
^^
I second that.

But truth is that Christmas have lost their true meaning throughout the years.
It's more like a commercial holiday or an official day off than trully celebrating Christ 's birth

JANKERSON
13-12-06, 11:35
This is a personal belief and you do as you feel. I'm Orthodox Christian and believe in God and His son. I don't believe in Him because my parents asked me to, but because I have read and decided by myself. As an Orthodox Christian, I celebrate Christ's birth.

Same here exactly. :)

^^


But truth is that Christmas have lost their true meaning throughout the years.
It's more like a commercial holiday or an official day off than trully celebrating Christ 's birth

Sad but true.

Atlantean-Squid
13-12-06, 13:20
I celebrate Christmas because, well, my family always have (not as Christians, but more on that later). It's a tradition I'd like to keep as it has always been a warm, relaxed time of year. I also attended a Christian primary school, whose approach to Christmas gave it a kind of... sacredness, which it has always kept even though I no longer follow Christian beliefs.

actually, being agnostic means that you don't neccesarily believe in god, but you also don't deny god's presence if there is one. to simply put it: being agnostic is being indecisive :)

Not necessarily. To me (and I'm sure to many other agnostics) it is believing that it is impossible to know about anything to do with God/gods, spirits and suchlike, and thus deciding not to devote your whole spiritual life to something you do not believe can really prove itself to be there.

AnthonyShock1515
13-12-06, 13:25
Because its a nive way to remind your loved ones that you care for them by buying them a present or giving your regards. It allows families to come together and rejoice!!

But then you get the credit card bill:(

Janny
13-12-06, 13:43
I love to celebrate it because *pulls out list* :
-lots and lots and lots of sweets and yummy food
-X-mas tree makes an awesome atmosphere that I love
-good xmasy movies on tv
-no school ( :jmp: )
-no chores or housework
-total relaxation
-movie-marathon :jmp:

Thorir
13-12-06, 13:56
It´s Jólablot! :)
A sacrifice to the Norse gods and godesses! :D

Oh, and it´s nice to spend some time with family. :)

petujaymz
13-12-06, 14:28
As a non-practising Roman Catholic I have to say it's down to pure habit these days...

:wve:

Rickťh
13-12-06, 17:06
I love to celebrate it because *pulls out list* :
-lots and lots and lots of sweets and yummy food
-X-mas tree makes an awesome atmosphere that I love
-good xmasy movies on tv
-no school ( :jmp: )
-no chores or housework
-total relaxation
-movie-marathon :jmp:

I agree :D

Ada the Mental
13-12-06, 18:49
I celebrate Christmas because of the holidays and I'm not ashamed to admit it.
The more I study religion the more I'm losing my religion.
I agree with the majority of the stuff Christianism says but I don't want to be a paret of a specific official religion.I do not dismiss however the ideas.I'm only an orthodox because I was bapthised one when I was a baby,which means of course it was not a personal choice.
I think I fall in this category:

actually, being agnostic means that you don't neccesarily believe in god, but you also don't deny god's presence if there is one. to simply put it: being agnostic is being indecisive :)


Anyway,I celebrate Christmas for the holidays and the relaxation.Maybe also because of my father's name day(his name's Christos).
Generally I think Christmas is overcommercialised and doesn't have much meaning any more...

Fish.
13-12-06, 19:33
Family togetherness, presents, food, presents, good times, and presents! :p

Sofitegan
13-12-06, 20:28
I wouldnt call myself a christian, wasn't baptised/christened and i cant say i believe any of it. ( No offence to anyone, i respect all peoples religious beliefs.) I suppose really i am an Atheist. But! i will be celebrating Christmas, as i alwyas do because the rest of my family do and its a nice oppurtunity to see all the family/moan about seeing the family. :D

Anubis_AF
13-12-06, 20:43
I love this time of year, and it's a nice holiday.

Rivendell
13-12-06, 20:51
As Yule, to me it's the light in the dark time of year, and this is (however commercially) embodied in all the lights that are put up at this time of year. It makes us feel better in the cold and dark, regenerates us for the year ahead; indeed; the birth of light.

:wve:

Another Lara
13-12-06, 22:33
Its a time for friends, family and most importantly FOOD! I've always loved the feel good atmosphere around Christmas, although it seems to have been drowned out this year by a load of rediculous PC crap!:hea:

Oh and I forgot the new episode of Doctor Who!:yah:

Mona Sax
13-12-06, 22:44
I'm an atheist, but I do like Christmas. To me, it's simply an opportunity to spend some quality time with your friends and family, some kind of celebration of love. It doesn't really matter to me where it came from, it's just the time of the year where people are a bit nicer with each other.

So, if you happen to celebrate it for whatever reason, Merry Christmas, and if you don't, simply enjoy the holidays. :wve:

Apofiss
13-12-06, 22:56
I love to celebrate it because *pulls out list* :
-lots and lots and lots of sweets and yummy food
-X-mas tree makes an awesome atmosphere that I love
-good xmasy movies on tv
-no school ( :jmp: )
-no chores or housework
-total relaxation
-movie-marathon :jmp:

Pretty much the same ^_^

JANKERSON
13-12-06, 23:01
I have been through this thread and I am simply amazed and happy that it has stayed friendly with as many announced atheists that have posted. :tmb:

Night Crawler
13-12-06, 23:24
It's nothing more than a holiday for me. It's all about lights, presents, Xmas dinner and family. I'm not a religious person but I still love Christmas.

Forwen
14-12-06, 00:14
I'm going to celebrate Christmas by revising stuff for my final exams in May. A once-in-a-year occurence indeed O_o

Angel666
14-12-06, 02:08
Because I'm a Christian and I love presents and family and the smell of Christmas trees. :D

Legends
14-12-06, 02:38
It's nothing more than a holiday for me. It's all about lights, presents, Xmas dinner and family. I'm not a religious person but I still love Christmas.
That's what I was going to say. I love to buy people presents! :D

Flipper1987
14-12-06, 02:40
I can't say anything for sure because I wasn't there. And I doubt you were either.

I dunno...I'm pretty old. :)

FLIPPER - whose birthyear has an A.D. by it....but just barely.

JANKERSON
14-12-06, 03:49
I dunno...I'm pretty old. :)

FLIPPER - whose birthyear has an A.D. by it....but just barely.

Now that's funny. :vlol:

Nephili
14-12-06, 12:06
I love spending time with my family and friends at Christmas. I also love giving presents more than recieving them!

a_pok
14-12-06, 14:08
its a national hollyday here
so christian or not you stay home from school
and thats more than enough...

Luba
14-12-06, 15:22
It'a a family holiday, may be less noisy & less funny than New year:D, but & like it despite the fact:)

peffect
14-12-06, 16:48
I'm muslim,so I don't celebrate christmas but I want to celebrate it someday simply cos It looks fun :whi:
I'm sure You also have to celebrate one day one of our religious parties:D

Lavinder
14-12-06, 17:04
Well i'm not a Christian so its a time for spending time with family.

Cord_Croft
14-12-06, 17:06
I love buying presents, the music on the radio and the mile long shopping queues! Christmas rocks! Plus im Christain! I love recieving pressies too, the mince pies, santa films on Christmas Eve, all the chocolate and happy faces!

tombraiderluka
14-12-06, 17:08
I celebrate the day Jesus was born :) And I love the Christmas holidays and PRESENTS!!!! :D:D:D
Christmas in our country is on 7th January

kryptonite23
26-01-07, 12:36
It`s having vacation in other places and opening gifts.