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17-12-06, 15:59
Hello, does anybody knows if the TRL works with a 32 MB video card, I have a Gforce II with 32 MB and I want to play TRL, do you know if it works?

Sorry if I have gramatical mistakes, I am not native english speaker :cool:

17-12-06, 16:06
Um....not even a chance!
Look here : http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showthread.php?t=60118
and upgrade your computer or buy a new one:)

Lara Lover
17-12-06, 16:21
This should be moved into the Tech Support section. :wve:

Here's the PC specifications:

» What is the PC specification for Legend?
Minimum (with TnL Graphics card)

Windows 2000/XP
P3 1.0GHz or Athlon XP Equivalent
DirectX 9.0c -compatible 64MB 3D Accelerated Card with TnL
DirectX 9.0c -compatible Sound Card
4x DVD-ROM drive
9.9GB free disk space
Win2000/XP compatible mouse and keyboardRecommended

Windows 2000/XP
P4 2.0GHz or Athlon XP Equivalent
100% DirectX 9.0c -compatible 256MB 3D Accelerated Card with TnL
DirectX 9.0c -compatible Sound Card
8x DVD-ROM drive
9.9GB free disk space
Win2000/XP compatible mouse and keyboardOptimal / Next generation capable

Windows 2000/XP
Intel Core2Duo / P4 3.0GHz or Athlon XP Equivalent
1024MB RAM
100% DirectX 9.0c -compatible 512MB 3D Accelerated Card with TnL
DirectX 9.0c -compatible Sound Card
8x DVD-ROM drive
9.9GB free disk space
Win2000/XP compatible mouse and keyboard» What cards do support TnL (Transform and Lighting)?
• nVidia GeForce FX series
• nVidia GeForce 4 series
• nVidia GeForce 3 series
• nVidia GeForce 2 series

• ATI Radeon series (except 7000, but the /64MB version can run Legend in basic settings, see *below.)
• ATI X series

*ATI Radeon 7000 /64MB settings to run the game at 800x600: http://www.jozefdekkers.nl/Trforum/ati7000-legendsettings.jpg

» What cards support DX9?

• nVidia GeForce FX series
• nVidia Quadro FX series
• ATI 9000 series
• ATI X series

What cards support the Next Generation content?
Theoretically, every shader model 3.0 supporting card.
• nVidia GeForce 6xxx and 7xxx series
• ATI X1000 series
Practically, only the 512 MB versions of these cards:
• nVidia GeForce 7800/7900GTX (512 MB)
• ATI X1800/1900XT (512 MB)
MOTTO: excellent graphics can do fine with 1 frame per minute but excellent gaming requires an average not below 30 frames/second.

» What cards do NOT support TnL? (and will most probably not play Legend)
• ATI Rage series (128, Pro, Fury etc)
• Intel (810, V3800)
• SIS (650/750 etc)
• S3 (Pro Savage, Twister)
• Matrox (Mystique, Millenium etc)
• Voodoo 3DFX (3, 5 etc)
• Geforce TNT, TNT2 (Ultra, Pro etc)
• Diamond Viper

>>>I want Next Generation. Why can't i enable it?
If the game setup has not detected a shader model 3.0 supporting card, that option will remain greyed out. If you still insist on Next Gen, you need to upgrade your PC with a new graphic card.
For Next Generation in a normal gameplay (smooth framerates, no stutterings / lags, natural responsiveness of mouse and keyboard), a high end graphic card with 512MB GRAM is needed.
The following available cards (brands are random) are the only sensible options:
ATI Radeon X1900XT 512MB GDDR3 PCI-Express (http://www.komplett.nl/k/ki.asp?sku=317431&view=detailed)
ATI Radeon X1900XTX 512MB GDDR3 PCI-Express (http://www.komplett.nl/k/ki.asp?sku=317430&view=detailed)
ATI Radeon X1800XT 512MB GDDR3, PCI-Express (http://www.komplett.nl/k/ki.asp?sku=314207&view=detailed)
NVIDIA GeForce 7900GTX 512MB, GDDR3, PCI-Express (http://www.komplett.nl/k/ki.asp?sku=318803),

x1800gto 512mb (http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showthread.php?t=73283)

For AGP systems there is no such card available. What comes closest (and way above 6600GT!) for AGP, (mind though that this is only a 256MB card), is the GF 7800GS (http://www.komplett.nl/k/ki.asp?sku=317794&view=detailed). :) [EDIT: now there is also a 512 MB version: Gainward GeForce 7800GS 512MB GDDR3, AGP8X (http://www.komplett.nl/k/ki.asp?sku=319889&view=detailed). ]

NOTE: When upgrading your PC with one of the above cards, it is very important you check if your Power Supply needs replacement too! A good 450 Watt is recommended, but a good 550 Watt is giving more safe room.

Nevertheless, it is possible to "force" Next generation content on older (only shader model 2.0/2.1 supporting cards. See this post (http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showpost.php?p=869681&postcount=13)further down in this thread.

>>>But i have a SLI in my system. Two GF 6800 / 256MB. So that is high end 512 MB isn't it? I should be able to run Next Gen!
Please realise that SLI does not double your card. Even if you have two 6800GT's with 256MB Ram each, that does not make the equivalent of 1 high end 512MB card. You will simply have a 6800GT/256MB set in SLI mode.
I couldn't say it better with my lame english than the Wikipedia from which i quote:
Scalable Link Interface (SLI) is a method for linking two (or more) videocards together to produce a single output. It is an application of parallel processing for computer graphics, meant to increase the processing power available for graphics. With SLI, it is possible to roughly double the amount of graphic complexity that can be handled by a computer just by adding a second identical video card.
It works in two methods, either: Split Frame Rendering (SFR), or Alternate Frame Rendering (AFR). SFR analyzes the rendered image in order to split the workload 50/50 between the two GPUs. Both GPUs work on the same frame simultaneously, each performing roughly half of the calculations required to render the frame. The second method is AFR, in which one GPU processes the current frame, while the next frame is processed by the second card. End of quote.

This is talking about the GPU of which the computing potential is roughly almost doubled. BUT THE GRAM ON BOTH CARDS IS NOT DOUBLED! It stays 256 MB on each card for use.
Next Generation needs ONE chunk of 512MB on a card to load the complete package of textures for quick grab while gaming. So either you play it on a single high end 512MB card or on two high end 512MB cards in SLI.

BTW: SLI is hardly doubling the results in gaming. In practice you see this:
See a comparison (http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/12/02/vga_charts_viii/page20.html)

This explanation is valid for CrossFire (ATI) as well.

>>>Which drivers should i download? I don't know exactly where to look for the hardware on my PC.
Download Everest Home (http://www.jozefdekkers.nl/everesthome200.zip)to your desktop. Unzip (extract) the file and install.
Start the program. In the left pane you'll see a rootstructure, select any item or, via clicking on the +, any sub-item. At the right pane you'll see the details about your selection.
Now please select Computer + >>> Summary in the left pane. Then in the right pane right-click any item and select Copy as Text (it will copy ALL as text). Could you post it in your next reply in a thread on this forum, where we help you find the right drivers. :)

>>> TR Legend - PC patch 1.1. ~European Version Only! Download it from tombraiderchronicles.com HERE (http://www.tombraiderchronicles.com/tr7/updates.html)

>>> TR Legend - PC patch 1.2. ~Incorporates patch 1.1. All disk versions (USA and European). Download Legend patch 1.2 (http://www.tombraiderchronicles.com/tr7/updates.html) from Trchronicles.com. :)

Mona Sax
17-12-06, 16:33
Yup... this is not gameplay related, so I'm gonna move it to Tech Support. :wve:

17-12-06, 16:36
If you want the play the newer games like TRL you really do need to buy a new system. :)