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Jordan_Boi
15-05-07, 20:15
I've just begun using the level editor and I've learnt some of the basics, like texturing, building, and WAD merging. I'm gonna use this thread to ask questions on things I get stuck with when I'm building my level, which will be a surprise until I've done more on it.
Okay, here's a few for now:

Answered Questions:
Horizon troubles - Right, I download this horizon WAD (http://www.trsearch.org/Items/1516), and I merged it with my level WAD. I just wanted to know how I could use this as my horizon and sky. *Solved!* Thanks pedro!

I want to add certain objects to my WADs, but they replace objects that weren't originally in the WAD in the first place. How can I change what they replace? *Solved* Heh, I solved it. :D



Unanswered stuff:
New-I inserted a human enemy into my WAD, how do I make him attack Lara, he just walks off and stops at a wall and doesn't move.

How do I make a level the title level?

Lara doesn't grab sometimes - Here's another. I download this animation (http://www.trsearch.org/Items/2331) And copied it over the default animation and it's working fine in-game. But I've had a little problem ever since I did it. Sometimes Lara doesn't pull her arms out to grab in the air when I press CTRL. But sometimes she does. What's the problem?

Kamrusepas
15-05-07, 21:15
Right, I download this horizon WAD (http://www.trsearch.org/Items/1516), and I merged it with my level WAD. I just wanted to know how I could use this as my horizon and sky.

Simply texture the parts of the wall and ceiling [and floor?] that you wish to show the horizon, with the black color that is the top left on the color palette.

mathew9r
15-05-07, 21:41
Sometimes Lara doesn't pull her arms out to grab in the air when I press CTRL. But sometimes she does. What's the problem?
wow i don't know whats the problam sorry.

Jordan_Boi
16-05-07, 09:12
Simply texture the parts of the wall and ceiling [and floor?] that you wish to show the horizon, with the black color that is the top left on the color palette.
Alright, thanks a lot dudette. I'll be sure to try it when I get home from school.

wow i don't know whats the problam sorry. Great. You've came back, if you don't know what my problem is don't post.

I'm gonna leak something about my level. It's gonna be a night level of Lara's TR3 house, and an old enemy'll be returning.

Kamrusepas
16-05-07, 09:57
Alright, thanks a lot dude. I'll be sure to try it when I get home from school.

I don't know if that was intentional or not, but I find it so amusing when people mistake me for a guy :D

mathew9r
16-05-07, 11:22
I'm gonna leak something about my level. It's gonna be a night level of Lara's TR3 house, and an old enemy'll be returning.
sound's cool jordan_boi:cool: i hope it will be a big hit:tmb:

Jordan_Boi
16-05-07, 14:19
I don't know if that was intentional or not, but I find it so amusing when people mistake me for a guy :D

Oh deary deary me. :tea: Sorry for calling you a dude. *Edits post before.* :D

Well, I tried what you suggested Kam, and it didn't turn out too well. The horizon went all garbled. Here's a picture:

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c388/Jordan_Boi/TRLEprob.jpg


I have a new question, see my first post. ;)

Zelda master
16-05-07, 15:25
Use STRPix to correct the textures;)

And you need the script to change the title of the level ;)
I once wrote a tut... first i need to search for it CX

Jordan_Boi
16-05-07, 16:18
How do I do this with STRPix? It's pretty complicated. :D
I mean how do you change the title screen's level that it flys around? Or even better, can you make it still?

mathew9r
16-05-07, 16:21
New question:How do I make a level the title level?
here is a program to edit the logo on the start screen of tr4.

http://www.savefile.com/files/727099

edit:you can make it still

edit2:you can make a title level but only with the title wad or level stuff

edit3:if you want a title level ask me to make it for ya.

Kamrusepas
16-05-07, 18:44
Well, I tried what you suggested Kam, and it didn't turn out too well. The horizon went all garbled. Here's a picture:

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c388/Jordan_Boi/TRLEprob.jpg


If that's supposed to be the horizon... is that an object? Or the room ceiling? Well it's obviously not the right texture. The color palette on the center and bottom of LE, select the top left black texture, and it should be transparent when you texture the room with it.

mathew9r
16-05-07, 18:56
If that's supposed to be the horizon... is that an object? Or the room ceiling? Well it's obviously not the right texture. The color palette on the center and bottom of LE, select the top left black texture, and it should be transparent when you texture the room with it.
it's the horizon for the level.
i can help ya with it.
just give me the wad and the textures to put it right.

Kamrusepas
16-05-07, 19:01
Did you put the horizon object in the room? Because you don't need to, you only need to have the object in your wad and it'll show where you have textured with the black.

mathew9r
16-05-07, 19:05
Did you put the horizon object in the room? Because you don't need to, you only need to have the object in your wad and it'll show where you have textured with the black.
if that don't work i will fix the texture's don't you worry.

pedro
16-05-07, 19:42
Welcome Jordan Boi.! You downloaded one of the finest sky wads, I use it too! I suggest that you read the "read me" file that came along. Just import it in your own wad is not enough. ( Then you get the cone form shape you have now) You need to make some changes in you script also!
If you open up your TRLE folder look for the script folder, copy this one to a save place.Now you can fool around as you always can replace it again!
Open the script folder en look for the script txt file, open that one and you should see this
;**************************************
;
; Tomb Raider IV Script File
; Release Version 1.00
;
;**************************************

;--------------------------------------
; Platform Definitions
;--------------------------------------

[PSXExtensions]
Level= .PSX
Cut= .CUT
FMV= .FMV

[PCExtensions]
Level= .TR4
Cut= .TR4
FMV= .BIK

;--------------------------------------
; Language Filenames
;--------------------------------------

[Language]
File= 0,ENGLISH.TXT
File= 1,FRENCH.TXT
File= 2,GERMAN.TXT
File= 3,ITALIAN.TXT
File= 4,SPANISH.TXT
File= 5,US.TXT
File= 6,JAPAN.TXT
File= 7,DUTCH.TXT

;--------------------------------------
; Options
;--------------------------------------

[Options]
LoadSave= ENABLED
Title= ENABLED
PlayAnyLevel= ENABLED
InputTimeout= 18000 ; frames * seconds = 60x30
FlyCheat= ENABLED
Security= $55
DemoDisc= DISABLED

;--------------------------------------
; Title
;--------------------------------------

[Title]

LoadCamera= 84246,-533,78233,81622,-1514,78208,40 ;src x,y,z target x,y,z, room
Level= DATA\TITLE,104

;--------------------------------------
; Levels
;--------------------------------------

[Level]
Name= Playable Tutorial Level
Legend= The year 2000, somewhere in Egypt...
Horizon= ENABLED
Layer1= 160,160,192,7
PuzzleCombo= 3,1,Cartouche Piece 1, $0000,$0400,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0002
PuzzleCombo= 3,2,Cartouche Piece 2, $0000,$0400,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0002
Puzzle= 3,Ba Cartouche, $0000,$0400,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0002
Puzzle= 5,Eye Of Horus, $0017,$0500,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0002
PuzzleCombo= 5,1,Eye Piece, $0017,$0500,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0002
PuzzleCombo= 5,2,Eye Piece, $0017,$0500,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0002
Puzzle= 6,The Hand Of Orion, $0000,$0400,$8000,$c000,$0000,$0002
Puzzle= 8,The Hand Of Sirius, $0000,$0400,$8000,$c000,$0000,$0002
LoadCamera= 0,0,0,0,0,0,255
LoadCamera= 11088,-1100,28896,11119,-1399,31486,0
Level= DATA\TUT1,107

[Level]
Name= The Tomb Of Seth
Puzzle= 1,Eye Of Horus, $0017,$0500,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0002
PuzzleCombo= 1,1,Eye Piece, $0017,$0500,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0002
PuzzleCombo= 1,2,Eye Piece, $0017,$0500,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0002
Puzzle= 2,The Timeless Sands, $0018,$0300,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0002
PuzzleCombo= 3,1,Cartouche Piece 1, $0000,$0400,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0002
PuzzleCombo= 3,2,Cartouche Piece 2, $0000,$0400,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0002
Puzzle= 3,Ba Cartouche, $0000,$0400,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0002
Puzzle= 4,Ra Cartouche, $0000,$0400,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0002
Puzzle= 7,Guardian Key, $0009,$0300,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0002
LoadCamera= 0,0,0,0,0,0,255
LoadCamera= 87075,-14188,26581,89090,-15443,25670,29
Level= DATA\SETTOMB,107

[Level]
Name= India wing
Horizon= ENABLED
ColAddHorizon= ENABLED
Puzzle= 2,Canopic Jar 1, $0001,$0320,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0002
Puzzle= 3,Canopic Jar 2, $0001,$0320,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0002
Puzzle= 1,Sun Talisman, $0000,$0500,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0002
PuzzleCombo= 1,1,Sun Disk, $0000,$0180,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0002
PuzzleCombo= 1,2,Sun Goddess, $0000,$04b0,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0002
Puzzle= 5,Golden Vraeus, $0003,$0300,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0002
Puzzle= 7,Guardian Key, $0009,$0300,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0002
Key= 2,Hypostyle Key, $0000,$0400,$0000,$c000,$0000,$0002
LoadCamera= 89366,-258,48077,88372,-1300,45701,0
Level= DATA\INDIA,110

[Level]
Name= Coastal Ruins
Horizon= ENABLED
Layer1= 128,128,128,-8
ColAddHorizon= ENABLED
LensFlare= 250000,-32000,110000,128,96,0
Puzzle= 5,Portal Guardian, $0008,$0600,$8000,$f000,$0000,$0002
PuzzleCombo= 5,1,Ornate Handle, $0002,$0500,$4000,$1000,$0000,$000a
PuzzleCombo= 5,2,Hathor Effigy, $0016,$0400,$8000,$0000,$0000,$0002
Mirror= 69,$7400
Puzzle= 3,Golden Star, $0000,$0500,$0000,$0000,$0000,$000a
Puzzle= 6,Horseman's Gem, $0000,$0300,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0002
Puzzle= 10,Pharos Knot, $0011,$0400,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0002
Puzzle= 11,Pharos Pillar, $0013,$04b0,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0002
Puzzle= 12,Black Beetle, $0008,$03b0,$0000,$e000,$0000,$000a
Pickup= 1,Broken Beetle, $0008,$03b0,$0000,$e000,$0000,$000a
Key= 1,Token, $0013,$0200,$4000,$0000,$0000,$0002
Key= 10,Gate Key, $0008,$0300,$8000,$e000,$0000,$0002
LoadCamera= 69395,-4283,29278,72285,-4304,29773,2
Level= DATA\COASTAL,105

[Level]
Name= Catacombs
Puzzle= 2,Music Scroll, $0006,$0400,$0000,$c000,$0000,$0002
Puzzle= 3,Golden Star, $0000,$0500,$0000,$0000,$0000,$000a
Puzzle= 5,Portal Guardian, $0008,$0600,$8000,$f000,$0000,$0002
PuzzleCombo= 5,1,Ornate Handle, $0002,$0500,$4000,$1000,$0000,$000a
PuzzleCombo= 5,2,Hathor Effigy, $0016,$0400,$8000,$0000,$0000,$0002
Puzzle= 6,Horseman's Gem, $0000,$0300,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0002
Puzzle= 10,Pharos Knot, $0011,$0400,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0002
Puzzle= 11,Pharos Pillar, $0013,$04b0,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0002
Puzzle= 12,Black Beetle, $0008,$03b0,$0000,$e000,$0000,$000a
Pickup= 1,Broken Beetle, $0008,$03b0,$0000,$e000,$0000,$000a
Key= 1,Token, $0013,$0200,$4000,$0000,$0000,$0002
Key= 10,Gate Key, $0008,$0300,$8000,$e000,$0000,$0002
LoadCamera= 63414,-13597,48104,61816,-14434,49092,71
Level= DATA\CATACOMB,108

[Level]
Name= Cleopatra's Palaces
Puzzle= 2,Music Scroll, $0006,$0400,$0000,$c000,$0000,$0002
Puzzle= 5,Portal Guardian, $0008,$0600,$8000,$f000,$0000,$0002
PuzzleCombo= 5,1,Ornate Handle, $0002,$0500,$4000,$1000,$0000,$000a
PuzzleCombo= 5,2,Hathor Effigy, $0016,$0400,$8000,$0000,$0000,$0002
Puzzle= 6,Horseman's Gem, $0000,$0300,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0002
Puzzle= 10,Pharos Knot, $0011,$0400,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0002
Puzzle= 12,Black Beetle, $0008,$03b0,$0000,$e000,$0000,$000a
Pickup= 1,Broken Beetle, $0008,$03b0,$0000,$e000,$0000,$000a
Pickup= 2,Broken Glasses, $0008,$0150,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0002
LoadCamera= 37674,-6560,48511,37886,-6404,47204,18
Level= DATA\CLEOPAL,107

[Level]
Name= City Of The Dead
Horizon= ENABLED
Layer1= 56,72,8,16
Puzzle= 1,Nitrous Oxide Feeder, $0004,$0300,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0002
Puzzle= 2,Car-Jack, $0000,$0400,$4000,$8000,$4000,$0002
Puzzle= 4,Roof Key, $0000,$0300,$4000,$d000,$b000,$0002
Puzzle= 5,Weapon Code Key, $0000,$0200,$8000,$c000,$0000,$0002
Puzzle= 8,Mine Detonator, $0008,$0400,$8000,$0000,$0000,$2002
PuzzleCombo= 1,1,Valve Pipe, $0004,$0300,$0000,$0000,$0000,$000a
PuzzleCombo= 1,2,Nitrous Oxide Cannister, $0002,$0300,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0002
PuzzleCombo= 2,1,Car-Jack Body, $0000,$0400,$4000,$8000,$4000,$0002
PuzzleCombo= 2,2,Handle, $0000,$0300,$4000,$8000,$4000,$0002
PuzzleCombo= 8,1,Mine Detonator Body, $0008,$0400,$8000,$0000,$0000,$0002
PuzzleCombo= 8,2,Mine Position Data, $0004,$0280,$8000,$c000,$0000,$0002
Puzzle= 1,Nitrous Oxide Feeder, $0004,$0300,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0002
LoadCamera= 40900,498,36177,42256,-666,37727,51
Level= DATA\CITY,102








If you use the tutorial level, for now you have to change the line:
Layer1= 160,160,192,7

into

ColAddHorizon= ENABLED

Make sure it's in the same way, otherways it won't work! try to paste it!

Now go to your scriptfolder again and look for English script ( the one with a cog in it). Run it and you see a short dos screen.
Now in your script folder two other folders named English. DAT and script. DAT are changed ( believe me:) ). Copy these two and go back one folder, the TRLE main folder, and paste them . Windows will ask you if you want to overwrite the excisting files: yes!
Quite a story isn't it? But now you did your first Script editing!

Load you project again and output your wad again, run tom2pc again and in game you should have you star spangled sky!

Jordan_Boi
16-05-07, 20:01
Pedro! That worked, thankyou very much! :) My level is starting to look beautiful now! :)
More leaking... I'm using the Lara's TR4 house .PRJ file and I'm building from it, adding secrets, new rooms and what-not. The returning enemy is from either TR1, 2, or 3.
I also might be adding another level after that!

Here's a picture:

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c388/Jordan_Boi/Moon.png

I also tweaked the lighting so it looks like the moon is shining on the ground.

pedro
16-05-07, 20:31
No thanks, glad it worked out.You just can sit down and watch that sky for hours, terriffic work of Mr NiceGuy!:jmp:

mathew9r
16-05-07, 20:46
Pedro! That worked, thankyou very much! :) My level is starting to look beautiful now! :)
More leaking... I'm using the Lara's TR4 house .PRJ file and I'm building from it, adding secrets, new rooms and what-not. The returning enemy is from either TR1, 2, or 3.
I also might be adding another level after that!

Here's a picture:

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c388/Jordan_Boi/Moon.png

I also tweaked the lighting so it looks like the moon is shining on the ground.
:yik: :yik: :yik:
that's the best sky that i've ever seen.
welldone jordan_boi you have outdone your self.
i give it 10/10 :tmb:

Jordan_Boi
16-05-07, 20:51
Ack, stupid Load balancing. :p Thanks for that mathew. ;)
I have a new question, so have a look on my first post please. :)

mathew9r
16-05-07, 20:58
Unanswered stuff:
How do I make a level the title level?
jordan_boi i did answer that. look in a post from me. {v}

tweetygwee
16-05-07, 21:12
jordan_boi i did answer that. look in a post from me. {v}

He's talking about title levels, NOT uklogo files.

mathew9r
16-05-07, 22:44
He's talking about title levels, NOT uklogo files.
look in the edit: area's for the answer.

Jordan_Boi
17-05-07, 06:57
Mathew that didn't really help much, no offence. How do I make one of those still title screens but it has something like water moving in it? A bit like the Neon God one or Dinosaur Research Facility.

mathew9r
17-05-07, 13:45
Mathew that didn't really help much, no offence. How do I make one of those still title screens but it has something like water moving in it? A bit like the Neon God one or Dinosaur Research Facility.
find the wav file called {title.WAD} then make the level.
if you want it to be a non-moving room make 2 room's with 1 being water and 2 dry.
then put lara in the place that you want her to look.
to make it a moveable room just put some flyby camra's in.
then put the trigger where lara is standing to start the flyby camra's.
when you have done that merge the wad file with the level to make a home made title level. @(^_^)@

Jordan_Boi
17-05-07, 20:08
find the wav file called {title.WAD} then make the level.
if you want it to be a non-moving room make 2 room's with 1 being water and 2 dry.
then put lara in the place that you want her to look.
to make it a moveable room just put some flyby camra's in.
then put the trigger where lara is standing to start the flyby camra's.
when you have done that merge the wad file with the level to make a home made title level. @(^_^)@


Thanks Mat, I'll try it when I get home.

Betal
17-05-07, 20:14
:yik: :yik: :yik:
that's the best sky that i've ever seen.
welldone jordan_boi you have outdone your self.
i give it 10/10 :tmb:

He haven't made the horizon.
http://www.trsearch.org/Items/1516

Jordan_Boi
17-05-07, 20:16
Heh heh, thanks for that Betal. :)

Betal
17-05-07, 20:21
Heh heh, thanks for that Betal. :)

I hope you didn't take my post offensive or anything:p . I just don't like when people think that other people have made other peoples work. (I hope this is readable xD)

Jordan_Boi
17-05-07, 20:23
I hope you didn't take my post offensive or anything:p . I just don't like when people think that other people have made other peoples work. (I hope this is readable xD)

Nope, I guess it's because I'm too lazy to tell him it wasn't mine. :vlol:

mathew9r
18-05-07, 11:48
Nope, I guess it's because I'm too lazy to tell him it wasn't mine. :vlol:
good one jordan_boi :vlol:@(^_^)@

Jordan_Boi
18-05-07, 15:16
Right, here's some new pics, I messed around with the shadows and lighting. :D Can you tell me what you think? Note, these are pics before I've added enemies.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c388/Jordan_Boi/Pic1.png

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c388/Jordan_Boi/Pic2.png

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c388/Jordan_Boi/Pic3.png

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c388/Jordan_Boi/Pic4.png

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c388/Jordan_Boi/Pic5.png

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c388/Jordan_Boi/Pic6.png

mathew9r
18-05-07, 20:53
Right, here's some new pics, I messed around with the shadows and lighting. :D Can you tell me what you think? Note, these are pics before I've added enemies.









http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c388/Jordan_Boi/Pic5.png


:D love the level can't wait.:D

in this picture is there a hidden area in the pool ???

Izzie404
18-05-07, 21:34
It looks like the real mansion! :yik:
It's really good :tmb:

[hehe...I love secret areas]

Jordan_Boi
19-05-07, 09:13
:D love the level can't wait.:D

in this picture is there a hidden area in the pool ???
Yes, you're right there mathew. But there are some slight issues with the secret room popping up in an already existing room, so I gotta watch out. I'm glad you like it anyway. :tmb:


It looks like the real mansion! :yik:
It's really good :tmb:

[hehe...I love secret areas]
Thanks a lot Izzie, I'm gonna try and implement as much secret areas as I can, they'll make you feel all nice and safe if you get scared of the baddies that come and get you. :p

If any of you have noticed, I made the breath meter bar thinner to make it like TR3's bars. I've also applied this to the health and sprint bars. :D
I haven't gotten very far lately, I just added more shadowing, and I messed about with a baddy appearence. Other than that, it's looking pretty good, and I need to sort out some bugs and all that. :D

I have a new question up top.

mathew9r
19-05-07, 12:51
coz 1 of the super mod told me to talk here about the title screen do you want a tester that i made ???

Jordan_Boi
19-05-07, 13:21
coz 1 of the super mod told me to talk here about the title screen do you want a tester that i made ???

Nope, I want to make everything myself, thanks. Do you know of a tutorial that could help me?

mathew9r
19-05-07, 16:06
Nope, I want to make everything myself, thanks. Do you know of a tutorial that could help me?
i could ask around for you but it will take awhile.