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Old 02-04-12, 23:47   #27
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I can't believe everyone in the Extras videos, including Angelina lied about doing her own stunts! Damn, my respect for her has very much gone down, whether it's what you do in Hollywood or not it's a lie. =/
That was one reason why I lost a bit of respect for her as well, and she still does it, we saw her do it with Salt. The stunt people only dress like the star when they are going to be appearing in the film. Yes they do all the setups to make sure anything safe enough for the star to do, is absolutely safe. But you see a stuntperson dressed the same as the star it will be them doing the dangerious stuff. The stunt double does the daring jumps, the star gets their pretty face pasted on the end pretending they had just done the jump, that is why they are called actors.

So in COL Angelina rode a horse, but did not do any stunts, she just pretended to fire the rifle. Her actually shooting anything is done with a special effect to make it look like she just shot the target, her firing and the target being shot are not connected, although they can time it to make it seem so.

Angelina got to ride a jet ski, that was it ride it in a straight line without falling of it. Although she did a lot of practice apparently they did not think she was proficient enough to appear more in the film doing it.

Angelina got to do a lot of hanging around supported by a safety harness, she did not even have to actually use her hands to stay there so it was not any great incredible feat. Doing it upside down was, I doubt I would want to be upside down for that long, and they seemed to do the shot several times before getting a break. So no Angelina was in no danger of falling of the skid of a helicopter, or falling down a cliff, she was also in the rig when doing the statue jumping, although again she made it look good. Angelina does not do any stunts where pyrotechnics are near by and she could be hurt. Angelina got to do a bit of paddling in a boat, a bit of very safe driving on a bike. Most of the bike work she did in COL was done in front of a green screen on a bike that was fixed in place. I have not watched the first movie for a while, but I think all her bike "stunts" in the first one were on bike fixed to a motorized lift, stationary stand or fixed to a dolly being pulled along with the camera.

Some of the underwater scenes in COL, were not even underwater, but I have not dug up those pictures yet. Angelina never parachuted anywhere, she got to pretend to jump, and then got lifted down via the usual crane type rig. So yes she was doing what she would call a stunt, hanging around in a safety harness, but it was not the stunt the fans would be thinking she did.

Unfortunately these film makers are very careful with what pictures are released, so it is not easy to get a look at how they do it, especially when they are in collusion with the stars delusion they are a stuntwoman. And as we have seen with Josh Lustic, sometime even a guy can look a lot like Angelina. So what chance have we of picking out when an actual stunt woman replaces her, maybe Angelina did not do all the wire work in the bungee fighting scene, maybe again she only did the bits where she was stationary or making a safe jump. Maybe it was someone else whizzed around the room pretending to run around the walls. I posted one pic of that and if you really look at it, can we be sure it is actually Angelina? Even though who ever did it did not seem to touch the walls at any point maybe they thought it too dangerious. Any where where you see "Lara actually bouncing of the walls, it is a stuntman not Angelina, same with the fighting while suspended. Angelina did the bungie ballet, although she did not jump of the side to start it, that was done with a different rig to the one she was suspended from in the middle of the room. And none of the bungie ballet rigs actually went close to the floor. Angelina was suspended on a board for the close to the floor shots, nothing dangerious about it, although I suppose you could still call it a stunt. The star was lying around instead of just hanging around.

(I will add some pictures here later, just having a bit of trouble finding them at the moment)


If someone actually thinks Angelina did a real stunt, say so and we will look at how it was done, and see if we can work out how it was done.

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