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LostLegend · 25-10-09, 14:27

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Originally Posted by Squibbly

Self-solving. I don't use walkthroughs. I feel like I've accomplished something getting through the old TR games all by myself.

By the way, the part in the Gallows Tree you're stuck at... could you describe where you are a little more? I'm thinking of a couple different spots at the moment. If you've figured it out already, nevermind.

The bit at the very beginning. I jumped around a lot to get the Golden Rose but I can't get to the "next area"

:/
XD

To the others: How long did TR1 or Chronicles take without a walkthrough? If I tried it without one I'd say I'd be on it for about a month. (more for TR1 which i am trying to be walkthrough-free but I got lost argh)

Squibbly · 25-10-09, 17:15

Okay, after you pick up the rose in the little cave, come back out the way you came, slide down to the bottom of the grove or whatever it is, turn left, then you'll see a rock ahead you can climb up onto, then a passageway straight from there. Follow the passage and you'll come back out to where you were at the beginning, where you have to go another way to continue, instead of the way you went to get the rose. Does that help?

TRC is rather short and easy, so it never took me that long to complete. It's probably the easiest Core TR. TR1 was trickier during the first playthrough, but that was back in '96 so I don't remember how long it took me.

jeffareid · 25-10-09, 22:07

I was creating savegames and also assisting with walkthroughs. Completing the game wasn't an issue, but occasionally there would be some well hidden secret, like the gold dragon in Ice Palace of TR2, where I got hints from other players. For the savegames, especially the early ones, I would fully explore entire areas for all pickups, and reaching as many difficult to reach spots as possible, which generally also resulted in getting all secrets, but was time consuming. I patched a few early game saves to place Lara in otherwise unreachable spots, before the position editor was created, one of them was the room in Temple of Xian in TR2 that had the large med pack near the start of the level. Others mostly just had nice overlooking views. The main information exchanged between players then was the pickup counts to verify if you got them all.

For the Core games, TRC had the most complex sequences, like Gallows Tree that had Lara going back and forth between areas for not so obvious pickups to be used in other not so obvious places.

Out of all the TR games, Anniversary was the only game where a bug prevented completion, using fraps to slow my system down solved the problem. Video explaining bug:

http://rcgldr.net/tr/tragpbug.wmv

Successful run made possible by using fraps:

http://rcgldr.net/tr/tragp1.wmv

Thinking that Underworld may be the last TR, I took my time with it.

na_th_an · 26-10-09, 07:51

Needless to say that my first playthrough to every classic happened when it was released, and I didn't have a handy internet access back then, so I finished them on my own (well, with the help of my flat mate).

LostLegend · 26-10-09, 10:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squibbly

Okay, after you pick up the rose in the little cave, come back out the way you came, slide down to the bottom of the grove or whatever it is, turn left, then you'll see a rock ahead you can climb up onto, then a passageway straight from there. Follow the passage and you'll come back out to where you were at the beginning, where you have to go another way to continue, instead of the way you went to get the rose. Does that help?

TRC is rather short and easy, so it never took me that long to complete. It's probably the easiest Core TR. TR1 was trickier during the first playthrough, but that was back in '96 so I don't remember how long it took me.

Actually that's where I'm stuck now! XD

I don't know which route to take :/

Other than these small route puzzles (sinking sub come to mind?) this is the easiest TR, yes. (I played AOD, got slightly annoyed at the controls but otherwise liked the game a lot, also thought it was easy but not as easy as this. Just started up TR1 again. Hate how save crystals are miles apart :/. TR2 I'm having problems with. In venice and have no medipacks on me and some guy shoots at me as soon as I'm in sight of him. IN THE WATER.

TR3 lost disc. TR4 same thing.

TR Legend was linear and easy. Never played Underworld. Anniversary was slightly harder.

Squibbly · 26-10-09, 21:34

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Originally Posted by LostLegend

Actually that's where I'm stuck now! XD

I don't know which route to take :/

Ah, okay.
After running back out above the grove where you started, jump straight across the same way you did the first time when you got the rose, but instead of hopping up to shimmy, just face left, do a running jump across, and she'll slide down backwards on the slope. Press the action button (X on the PS1 if that's what you're using) immediately to grab the ledge, and shimmy left. Climb up when you get to the end, turn left, jump across to the ledge in front of you, and immediately hold action again to hang onto it (because it's sloped again). Shimmy right so she turns the corner, keep going until you see a ledge below you. Let go of action and press it again right away to grab that ledge underneath you, and climb in. From there, you'll go down the slope in front of you, turn right, hop up onto another ledge ahead, face right again, and the ceiling above you is climbable, so jump up and grab it, and swing across to the ledge ahead. You'll be in the next area after that.

I turned on my PS1 to check this level to make sure I gave you the right information, so with that you'll be good to go.

LostLegend · 27-10-09, 13:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squibbly

Ah, okay.
After running back out above the grove where you started, jump straight across the same way you did the first time when you got the rose, but instead of hopping up to shimmy, just face left, do a running jump across, and she'll slide down backwards on the slope. Press the action button (X on the PS1 if that's what you're using) immediately to grab the ledge, and shimmy left. Climb up when you get to the end, turn left, jump across to the ledge in front of you, and immediately hold action again to hang onto it (because it's sloped again). Shimmy right so she turns the corner, keep going until you see a ledge below you. Let go of action and press it again right away to grab that ledge underneath you, and climb in. From there, you'll go down the slope in front of you, turn right, hop up onto another ledge ahead, face right again, and the ceiling above you is climbable, so jump up and grab it, and swing across to the ledge ahead. You'll be in the next area after that.

I turned on my PS1 to check this level to make sure I gave you the right information, so with that you'll be good to go.

PC for TR5, PS1 for TR1-2, soon ps2 for TR6.

Thanks, I'll try that one again soon! XD

fondantcookie · 01-11-09, 02:53

I refuse to use walkthroughs as they spoil the game. The sense of satisfaction you get when you work out where to go/what to do after being stuck is great. Plus being lost as part of what tomb raider is about :-)

Gotta say i remember nearly snapping my TR4 disk towards the end out of frustration. Those interwebbing hub levels (coastal ruins etc) were a little TOO comlicated if you ask me. Persevered and got through though :-)

LostLegend · 02-11-09, 14:08

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Originally Posted by fondantcookie

I refuse to use walkthroughs as they spoil the game. The sense of satisfaction you get when you work out where to go/what to do after being stuck is great. Plus being lost as part of what tomb raider is about :-)

Gotta say i remember nearly snapping my TR4 disk towards the end out of frustration. Those interwebbing hub levels (coastal ruins etc) were a little TOO comlicated if you ask me. Persevered and got through though :-)

TR4 is indeed a strange game. (You can travel between levels, right?)
When I pick it up again, I'll be using a walkthrough for that >.<

I got past the Gallows part but WHAT THE HECK ARE THOSE MARSHMALLOW THINGS?!

I beg for subtitles T.T

snork · 02-11-09, 15:56

The little white baby-demon-things ? I found those really freaky.

I strongly prefer to play the games on my own, but sometimes I can't find a solution.

For example the cook in the submarine, I always tried it some wrong way (no details in black print, as I have not understood if LostLegend has already played it or not.)
spoiler : I always tried to crawl towards the cook as I thought this way the ovens and such would like hide Lara.

So I had a peek in the "official Eidos/Core Chronicles solution book" that came in package with my Chronicles CDs (ebay).

Lol, what a waste of paper - maybe 100 pages of screenshots with text, and from screenshot 60 or so on, there had been a layout mistake and all the following screenshots have the wrong text with them.

--------------------------------
The first time ever I looked up a walkthrough and used a savegame from that walkthrough, it fouled up things severely.
That had been TR3-London and the savegame had the areas I wanted to go to later already played (Nevada, South Pacific)

25-10-09, 17:15	#12
Squibbly Professor Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Canadanadanada Posts: 3,507	Okay, after you pick up the rose in the little cave, come back out the way you came, slide down to the bottom of the grove or whatever it is, turn left, then you'll see a rock ahead you can climb up onto, then a passageway straight from there. Follow the passage and you'll come back out to where you were at the beginning, where you have to go another way to continue, instead of the way you went to get the rose. Does that help? TRC is rather short and easy, so it never took me that long to complete. It's probably the easiest Core TR. TR1 was trickier during the first playthrough, but that was back in '96 so I don't remember how long it took me. __________________ There was a signature here. It's gone now.

25-10-09, 22:07	#13
jeffareid Historian Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 454	I was creating savegames and also assisting with walkthroughs. Completing the game wasn't an issue, but occasionally there would be some well hidden secret, like the gold dragon in Ice Palace of TR2, where I got hints from other players. For the savegames, especially the early ones, I would fully explore entire areas for all pickups, and reaching as many difficult to reach spots as possible, which generally also resulted in getting all secrets, but was time consuming. I patched a few early game saves to place Lara in otherwise unreachable spots, before the position editor was created, one of them was the room in Temple of Xian in TR2 that had the large med pack near the start of the level. Others mostly just had nice overlooking views. The main information exchanged between players then was the pickup counts to verify if you got them all. For the Core games, TRC had the most complex sequences, like Gallows Tree that had Lara going back and forth between areas for not so obvious pickups to be used in other not so obvious places. Out of all the TR games, Anniversary was the only game where a bug prevented completion, using fraps to slow my system down solved the problem. Video explaining bug: http://rcgldr.net/tr/tragpbug.wmv Successful run made possible by using fraps: http://rcgldr.net/tr/tragp1.wmv Thinking that Underworld may be the last TR, I took my time with it. Last edited by jeffareid; 25-10-09 at 22:19.

01-11-09, 02:53	#18
fondantcookie Professor Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,736	I refuse to use walkthroughs as they spoil the game. The sense of satisfaction you get when you work out where to go/what to do after being stuck is great. Plus being lost as part of what tomb raider is about :-) Gotta say i remember nearly snapping my TR4 disk towards the end out of frustration. Those interwebbing hub levels (coastal ruins etc) were a little TOO comlicated if you ask me. Persevered and got through though :-) __________________ Can someone who actually understands 'Tomb Raider' make the next game please ?

02-11-09, 15:56	#20
snork Archaeologist Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: northern northern Germany Posts: 1,033	The little white baby-demon-things ? I found those really freaky. I strongly prefer to play the games on my own, but sometimes I can't find a solution. For example the cook in the submarine, I always tried it some wrong way (no details in black print, as I have not understood if LostLegend has already played it or not.) spoiler : I always tried to crawl towards the cook as I thought this way the ovens and such would like hide Lara. So I had a peek in the "official Eidos/Core Chronicles solution book" that came in package with my Chronicles CDs (ebay). Lol, what a waste of paper - maybe 100 pages of screenshots with text, and from screenshot 60 or so on, there had been a layout mistake and all the following screenshots have the wrong text with them. -------------------------------- The first time ever I looked up a walkthrough and used a savegame from that walkthrough, it fouled up things severely. That had been TR3-London and the savegame had the areas I wanted to go to later already played (Nevada, South Pacific) __________________ Sorry for missing p, z, or u in my posts. Keyboard is dying. Last edited by snork; 02-11-09 at 15:58.

26-10-09, 07:51	#14
na_th_an Archaeologist Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Andalucía, Spain Posts: 2,175	Needless to say that my first playthrough to every classic happened when it was released, and I didn't have a handy internet access back then, so I finished them on my own (well, with the help of my flat mate).