If you think Obama is a bad president...

[Mr.Burns]

Change takes time, not just a few months or a year or two but sometimes longer than that. People who thought that once Obama came into office, he would make everything better are fooling themselves. Typical American mentality of "I want it and I want it now."

[violentblossom]

Originally Posted by Mr.Burns

Change takes time, not just a few months or a year or two but sometimes longer than that. People who thought that once Obama came into office, he would make everything better are fooling themselves. Typical American mentality of "I want it and I want it now."

Well put, Burnsy.

[wantafanta]

Originally Posted by Mad Tony

Really? From what I've heard, he was a pretty good president overall. Like all presidents, he made some bad decisions but what president hasn't? Obama has made a very large number of bad decisions already and he hasn't even been in office for a year yet.

It's obvious you choose to ignore the facts even when they are square in front of you.
I just listed for you the top advisors in Reagan's term who went to jail or were on the verge of doing so - until Bush PARDONED them (Weinberger -sec'y of defense) - or else they died before their indictment (CIA chief Wm. Casey). And you call this guy "pretty good?" I'm not gonna kid myself one minute to think that you would ever change your mind about anything political.

Here are some infamous quotes from the "Gipper" to illustrate just what an incompetent klutz the guy really was. What you hear is what you get. You are not going to get acts of genius from a guy who says idiotic things. If it walks like a dope, quacks like a dope, it IS a dope.


Great Thoughts of Ronald Reagan
"A tree's a tree. How many more do you need to look at?"
Ronald Reagan (Governor of California), quoted in the Sacramento Bee, opposing expansion of Redwood National Park, March 3, 1966

"All the waste in a year from a nuclear power plant can be stored under a desk."
Ronald Reagan (Republican candidate for president), quoted in the Burlington (Vermont) Free Press, February 15, 1980

"It's silly talking about how many years we will have to spend in the jungles of Vietnam when we could pave the whole country and put parking stripes on it and still be home by Christmas."
Ronald Reagan (candidate for Governor of California), interviewed in the Fresno Bee, October 10, 1965

"The moral equal of our Founding Fathers."
President Reagan, describing the Nicaraguan contras, March 1, 1985

"Fascism was really the basis for the New Deal."
Ronald Reagan, quoted in Time, May 17, 1976

"A faceless mass, waiting for handouts."
Ronald Reagan, 1965. (Reagan describing Medicaid recipients.)

"Unemployment insurance is a pre-paid vacation for freeloaders."
California Governor Ronald Reagan, in the Sacramento Bee, April 28, 1966

"We were told four years ago that 17 million people went to bed hungry every night. Well, that was probably true. They were all on a diet."
Ronald Reagan, TV speech, October 27, 1964

"I never knew anything above Cs."
President Reagan, in a moment of truthfulness, describes his academic record to Barbara Walters, November 27, 1981

"They told stories about how inattentive and inept the President was.... They said he wouldn't come to work--all he wanted to do was to watch movies and television at the residence."
Jim Cannon (an aide to Howard Baker) reporting what Reagan's underlings told him, Landslide: The Unmaking of the President: 1984-88

"Reagan's only contribution [to the subject of the MX missile] throughout the entire hour and a half was to interrupt somewhere at midpoint to tell us he'd watched a movie the night before, and he gave us the plot from WarGames, the movie. That was his only contribution."
Lee Hamilton (Representative from Indiana) interviewed by Haynes Johnson, Sleepwalking Through History: America in the Reagan Years

"This President is treated by both the press and foreign leaders as if he were a child.... It is major news when he honors a political or economic discussion with a germane remark and not an anecdote about his Hollywood days."
Columnist Richard Cohen

"What planet is he living on?"
President Mitterand of France poses this question about Reagan to Canadian Prime Minister Trudeau.

"During Mr. Reagan's trip to Europe...members of the traveling press corps watched him doze off so many times--during speeches by French President Francois Mitterrand and Italian President Alessandro Pertini, as well as during a one-on-one audience with the Pope--that they privately christened the trip 'The Big Sleep.'"
Mark Hertsgaard, On Bended Knee: The Press and the Reagan Presidency

"He demonstrated for all to see how far you can go in this life with a smile, a shoeshine and the nerve to put your own spin on the facts."
David Nyhan, Boston Globe columnist

"An amiable dunce
Clark Clifford (former Defense Secretary)

"Poor dear, there's nothing between his ears."
British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher

"Like reinventing the wheel."
Larry Speakes (Reagan's former press secretary) describing what it was like preparing the President for a press conference, Speaking Out: The Reagan Presidency from Inside the White House

[SamReeves]

All the Obama groupies are eating a nice healthy cow pattie now. Your rock star is a dud!

[Mad Tony]

Originally Posted by wantafanta

*snip*

Half of those quotes weren't that bad, I've seen worse. Besides, a lot of them came from the 60s when he was obviously less politically experienced. Most politicians make stupid comments in their early years, in fact, most politicians make stupid comments all the time. Here's some from the great Clinton.

"Politics gives guys so much power that they tend to behave badly around women. And I hope I never get into that." –Bill Clinton, to a woman friend while he was a Rhodes scholar at Oxford

"Last year, the vice president launched a new effort to help make communities more liberal." —Bill Clinton, during his 2000 State of the Union Speech.

"If President Reagan could be an actor and become president, maybe I could become an actor. I've got a good pension. I can work for cheap." -Bill Clinton, at a Hollywood fundraiser

"We can't be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans" - Bill Clinton

"You know the one thing that's wrong with this country? Everyone gets a chance to have their fair say." - Bill Clinton

Those are just a selection.

In your own words "You are not going to get acts of genius from a guy who says idiotic things. If it walks like a dope, quacks like a dope, it IS a dope."

[Quasimodo]

Originally Posted by Mad Tony

"We can't be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans" - Bill Clinton

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactchec...e_cant_be.html

[Mad Tony]

Originally Posted by Quasimodo

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactchec...e_cant_be.html

That's the story of a lot of these quotes - taken out of context. I expect the same goes for some of those Reagan quotes as well.

[Sgt BOMBULOUS]

Originally Posted by Mad Tony

That's the story of a lot of these quotes - taken out of context. I expect the same goes for some of those Reagan quotes as well.

Yeah like:

"All the waste in a year from a nuclear power plant can be stored under a desk."
Ronald Reagan (Republican candidate for president), quoted in the Burlington (Vermont) Free Press, February 15, 1980

I wonder how many idiots actually think he's suggesting sticking it under a desk somewhere... He's saying the volume is SMALL, and it really is. A 1000 MW Fossil Fuel power plant makes 3.2 million tons of CO2 per year. Anyone want to guess how big that desk would need to be?