This bit is HARD - Page 2

aussie500 · 07-11-09, 19:11

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Originally Posted by Love2Raid

Wow, I didn't know the level of difficulty of the shaft climb is so different between for example PC and XBOX!

It was very hard for me on the PC (makes the Time Trial impossible for me), I am going to play it on my 360 soon. Can't wait to try it.

I was practically tearing my hair out on the PC for over 50 attempts, eventually got it and could do it fairly frequently. Attempted the time trial a few times and gave up. I think I actually got that time trial on the Xbox 360, gave up trying to get the Manor one. Decided I want nothing to do with time trials. I never did get that Egyptian rotation puzzle right first time where you match the pictures up on all sides, I would spend the entire time trial getting the door open.

Phlip · 07-11-09, 19:20

^Well I suppose with a keyboard and mouse would be a total nightmare. I'd love to know how anyone would manage that. I've done it on the PC with a controller and PS2 with no problems at all.

Love2Raid · 07-11-09, 19:33

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Originally Posted by aussie500

I was practically tearing my hair out on the PC for over 50 attempts, eventually got it and could do it fairly frequently. Attempted the time trial a few times and gave up. I think I actually got that time trial on the Xbox 360, gave up trying to get the Manor one. Decided I want nothing to do with time trials. I never did get that Egyptian rotation puzzle right first time where you match the pictures up on all sides, I would spend the entire time trial getting the door open.

I don't like them very much either. I enjoy the game much better when I don't have to rush through it. I cheated to get the Obelisk of Khamoon time trial.

Oh that puzzle! I think it's brilliant, but I have to admit I usually just turn some random pillars and see what happens, which can take verrrrry long..

For the time trial, I used the walkthrough on tombraiderchronicles.com.

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Originally Posted by Phlip

^Well I suppose with a keyboard and mouse would be a total nightmare. I'd love to know how anyone would manage that. I've done it on the PC with a controller and PS2 with no problems at all.

I use a controller as well. I guess I just suck.

Thinking about having to do that with a keyboard and mouse will give me nightmares for sure.

Phlip · 07-11-09, 19:43

I must just have really good left to right analogue stick - Lara control to camera control coordination.

tranniversary119 · 07-11-09, 20:06

It's weird because on both the 360, and the PC I've never had any trouble with this level.

Sgt BOMBULOUS · 07-11-09, 20:16

Hmm... I had a thread about this:

http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showthread.php?t=158551

One of the points I made was that the camera seems to go bonkers if you deviate from the intended route, at least for me it did. When I used the poles the camera was fine.

Maybe it should get stickied? Seems to come up a lot.

Phlip · 07-11-09, 20:38

I hate how camera the camera will turn automatically. This was incredibly frustrating with the Palace Midas spike room. I plan how I'm gonna move the camera as I'm going and it messes everything up when it moves for me.

Does anyone have any ideas on why they did this?

Sgt BOMBULOUS · 07-11-09, 20:41

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Originally Posted by Phlip

I hate how camera the camera will turn automatically. This was incredibly frustrating with the Palace Midas spike room.

Does anyone have any ideas on why they did this?

I got so frustrated I wanted to kill... everything the first time I played the part you're talking about. The only thing I found to do is not fight it and get used to maneuvering her from a semi-birds eye view. The first time it took me like 10 tries. Then on my 2nd run through the game I did it on the first try. Go figure!

TombRaiderFan. · 07-11-09, 21:22

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Originally Posted by aussie500

I was practically tearing my hair out on the PC for over 50 attempts, eventually got it and could do it fairly frequently. Attempted the time trial a few times and gave up. I think I actually got that time trial on the Xbox 360, gave up trying to get the Manor one. Decided I want nothing to do with time trials. I never did get that Egyptian rotation puzzle right first time where you match the pictures up on all sides, I would spend the entire time trial getting the door open.

Same here. I actually had to go to Stella's walkthroughs and check how to solve it fast to be able to finish that time trial. I don't get why the PC version is harder; must be the controls.

aussie500 · 07-11-09, 21:24

I could eventually get past that third platform on the PC using either keyboard and mouse or a controller and could do it both the expected way and jumping across to the grapple point. Still I cannot say it was any easier on the PC no matter how I did it, but then my hands are not the best so maybe it was me. I do not replay the PC version unless I am after screenshots, the Xbox360 version is a lot better, except for one bug in the Manor pool area and that someone forgot to put a start new game option in there.

It seems I will likely replay the Wii version when I eventually finish it, its been great so far, but then I am not up to that third platform yet.

I think for some reason the timing was out on the PC version for that third platform, the first grapple point vanishes too fast. You seem to get more time on the Xbox360 version. Its been ages since I played the PS2 version so could not say but it only took me 10 odd attempts and most of them were being blown of the platform by those flying pests.

If I play the game enough the mystery of the Egyptian rotating trick should be solved, surely it cannot be that hard to work out how to do it in a few turns. I just have not turned them enough yet to get it. Few more years I should have it! I refuse to use a walkthrough.

07-11-09, 19:20	#12
Phlip Relic Hunter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bartoli's Hideout Gender: Male Posts: 8,391	^Well I suppose with a keyboard and mouse would be a total nightmare. I'd love to know how anyone would manage that. I've done it on the PC with a controller and PS2 with no problems at all. __________________ I love the stuck up ***** in my avatar. :D

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Phlip Relic Hunter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bartoli's Hideout Gender: Male Posts: 8,391	I must just have really good left to right analogue stick - Lara control to camera control coordination. __________________ I love the stuck up ***** in my avatar. :D

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tranniversary119 Relic Hunter Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bon Temps Gender:Male Posts: 6,915	It's weird because on both the 360, and the PC I've never had any trouble with this level. __________________ Alice in Wonderland ~coming 2010~

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Sgt BOMBULOUS Explorer Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 966	Hmm... I had a thread about this: http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showthread.php?t=158551 One of the points I made was that the camera seems to go bonkers if you deviate from the intended route, at least for me it did. When I used the poles the camera was fine. Maybe it should get stickied? Seems to come up a lot. __________________ Be sure 'n tell 'em, LARGE MARGE sent ya! Last edited by Sgt BOMBULOUS; 07-11-09 at 20:17.

07-11-09, 20:38	#17
Phlip Relic Hunter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bartoli's Hideout Gender: Male Posts: 8,391	I hate how camera the camera will turn automatically. This was incredibly frustrating with the Palace Midas spike room. I plan how I'm gonna move the camera as I'm going and it messes everything up when it moves for me. Does anyone have any ideas on why they did this? __________________ I love the stuck up ***** in my avatar. :D

07-11-09, 21:24	#20
aussie500 Moderator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 13,437	I could eventually get past that third platform on the PC using either keyboard and mouse or a controller and could do it both the expected way and jumping across to the grapple point. Still I cannot say it was any easier on the PC no matter how I did it, but then my hands are not the best so maybe it was me. I do not replay the PC version unless I am after screenshots, the Xbox360 version is a lot better, except for one bug in the Manor pool area and that someone forgot to put a start new game option in there. It seems I will likely replay the Wii version when I eventually finish it, its been great so far, but then I am not up to that third platform yet. I think for some reason the timing was out on the PC version for that third platform, the first grapple point vanishes too fast. You seem to get more time on the Xbox360 version. Its been ages since I played the PS2 version so could not say but it only took me 10 odd attempts and most of them were being blown of the platform by those flying pests. If I play the game enough the mystery of the Egyptian rotating trick should be solved, surely it cannot be that hard to work out how to do it in a few turns. I just have not turned them enough yet to get it. Few more years I should have it! I refuse to use a walkthrough. __________________ Hey..... someone help Bat Baby up of the floor. Last edited by aussie500; 07-11-09 at 21:31.