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Old 18-08-12, 02:12   #1
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Default Your questions and concerns in this thread please

I'm all ears.

I would ask you post responsibly and respectfully and in return I'll do my best to answer you.
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Old 18-08-12, 07:30   #2
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It's just too little too late on topic like this.

for example

http://www.tombraiderforums.com/show...&postcount=229
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Old 18-08-12, 07:55   #3
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Before even opening your mouth to speak about "if there are mature people behind these avatars"... stop for a while and think is it mature to not stick to several simple and simply stated rules and then whine when you have been slapped on the hand for not following them?

This is a private forum. Justin runs the party, not you. If you want to post some iffy models/renders/GIFs/whatever, do it somewhere else.

Besides we have enough childish drama even w/o your thread. Can't stick to simple rules, don't want to? Fine. Nobody is chaining you to TRF... Don't let the door hit your back end upon leaving.
But don't also post false reasons for your leaving and agitate useless drama. Period.
Do you call this respectful? I don't think it is at all.

I am not whining and sine I'm not the only one thinking the rules are strict and that mods never listened to us, why don't you (EscondeR) start wondering why EVERYONE here simply think the same things as me? What, did I convince them with some trick or something? Definitely not.

You closed my thread without any single word, then removed it as if you didn't care. Then you write privately to me when we were ALL talking about you mods in public.

I have no problems with a forum's rules my dear. The problem is that we all tried to let you mods understand that maybe something is too strict. I didn't decide to stop porting models here and "whine" just because Mytly said I had to remove the link in my sign. This is not the point. That was just the straw that broke the camel's.

And do you still ask why I wonder if there are any mature people?

I think that people who ban Daz for no reason at all are not mature enough. I just think mods should listen to us and try to understand why we think like that. But no, you just act bad since the start and then you insult me, accusing me to whine like a baby. Is this what you think we all do? Whine? Aha, cool. So my reasons are false, huh? Right, I'm doing this just to get popular because I'm the queen of TRF and everyone is following me with the same false reasons you state.

Also, I don't think I'm running this place and never thought so. We are all together in this, you should also read all the comments on DA. Why we are? Ask yourself some questions.

As Kamil said, why rules are so strict? You don't want porn? Fine. No nude models? Okay. But what about this "no skin" thing? A model could be fully covered on her breasts (no nipples visible) and lower region, yet if the skin on her chest is visible it's banned. Many users, especially the new ones, don't understand this. I mean, they understand no porn and no naked models are allowed, but they express their perplexity when someone says "remove that model, too much skin is visible" only because a shirt reveals some chest (not breasts, chest).
Also, no links are allowed. Okay. But I had linked a post I made in the WIP section, just to be sure people could easily find it. It was an internal link, not a spamming one. I wasn't linking any other forums/sites/whatever, I was linking TRF itself. The only reason why the link looked with a different name was because I had to shorten it in order to keep it into my signature. But if you pasted it you would have been directed to my post in the WIP section.

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Old 18-08-12, 08:23   #4
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Can you guys just delete the off-topic posts in the modding competition and re-open it again? Thanks!
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Old 18-08-12, 09:52   #5
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@ Runa:

1. You're not supposed to share the PMs w/o agreement of both sides... But well if you want to put yourself in even worse position, go on. Let's think I gave you permission to post it

2. The rules are VERY simple and the guidelines are given even graphically: http://www.tombraiderforums.com/show...50&postcount=1

3. When you call those who don't like the rules "EVERYONE" your claims are at the very least slightly exagerrated.

4. Respect aspect: When you don't respect the forum rules at the very start, the others, the moderation finally... you have no moral right to speak about that.
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Old 18-08-12, 10:16   #6
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@ Runa:

1. You're not supposed to share the PMs w/o agreement of both sides... But well if you want to put yourself in even worse position, go on. Let's think I gave you permission to post it

2. The rules are VERY simple and the guidelines are given even graphically: http://www.tombraiderforums.com/show...50&postcount=1

3. When you call those who don't like the rules "EVERYONE" your claims are at the very least slightly exagerrated.

4. Respect aspect: When you don't respect the forum rules at the very start, the others, the moderation finally... you have no moral right to speak about that.
How can you say we don't have a moral right to talk about this sort of stuff about respecting the rules and the mods? We have every right to talk about this stuff.

This is the point we was making on the other thread.

Your meant to be a mod, and you send a message like that to a member? How can anyone deem that as okay regardless if it was a PM. You still shouldn't send something like that.

We go to the rules thread and try to explain why we feel the way we do and instead of mods coming in and speaking to us getting to know why we feel this way, it's ignored and once the heat dies down you come in and throw down the law and rules once again.

And then to make the matter worse Dennis' Mom writes a long post having a go at us, pretty much saying it's our fault, that we try to push the line.

Judging by all the mods post counts you must talk to members outside the xnalara section, but here we get nothing, and plenty of us have said enough times that most of us don't post outside the section.

It honestly feels like your on a high horse or something, and we just can't seem to talk to you about anything without mods ignoring us then throwing down the law.

Daz was banned for what? Having a personal chat with another member about how they feel and maybe a new forum or place, that doesn't even exist yet! Not even a warning just a straight up over the top life time ban.


And no disrespect to you trl_online from what I hear, you've been pretty cool to some members I know. I hope you can try to understand why we feel like this.

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Old 18-08-12, 10:25   #7
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@ Runa:

1. You're not supposed to share the PMs w/o agreement of both sides... But well if you want to put yourself in even worse position, go on. Let's think I gave you permission to post it

2. The rules are VERY simple and the guidelines are given even graphically: http://www.tombraiderforums.com/show...50&postcount=1

3. When you call those who don't like the rules "EVERYONE" your claims are at the very least slightly exagerrated.

4. Respect aspect: When you don't respect the forum rules at the very start, the others, the moderation finally... you have no moral right to speak about that.
What about the topic I opened, then? You simply removed it and now you say I have no rights to show your pm? Are you afraid of your words or what?
Plus, I always respected the rules. I have never posted a naked model or something, I just asked thousand times why such a strict rule and I wasn't the only one. We just got ignored.
I posted that link in my sign because it wasn't external and I didn't consider it a spam, nor against the rules.

And why don't you answer my questions, then? I ask why this and that and you just say "you show no respect for the rules". Wow.
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Old 18-08-12, 10:33   #8
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How can you say we don't have a moral right to talk about this sort of stuff about respecting the rules and the mods? We have every right to talk about this stuff.



Your meant to be a mod, and you send a message like that to a member? How can anyone deem that as okay regardless if it was a PM. You still shouldn't send something like that.

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Judging by all the mods post counts you must talk to members outside the xnalara section, but here we get nothing, and plenty of us have said enough times that most of us don't post outside the section.
"To have (or not) a moral right" is a figure of speach. If you don't know that or prefer to take everything literally, that only makes the validity of your "maturity complaints" questionable.


The second part tells that it is you on a very high horse. I can imagine what a troublesome life you have, calling "rude", etc everyone who tells you anything you are not in agreement with. You simply don't read into and don't try to understand... the same happens with the rules. Then you complain. The only ground for compliants is your own behaviour here.

About the third part: You [not you literally , all the XNA complainers] have already shown numerous times what reaction any moderator post, which is not following your own perception of the universe, gets. You were already told privately and publicly about a very few clear limits... yet iffy stuff gets afloat again and again.

So WHAT'S THE POINT in telling you in 10^12-th time:
"You are wrong violating the N-th rule because so and so"
Because all you reply will be "I do nothing wrong! Stop pressing me you cruel mods!!!11!!1!"?
What's the point if you call any post/PM not literally hugging and kissing you "rude"?

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What about the topic I opened, then? You simply removed it and now you say I have no rights to show your pm? Are you afraid of your words or what?
Now this is plain childish.
I'm not afraid of my words obviously. I'm not removing that part of your post even if it is a violation of the rules. I even giving you my permission to post [THAT EXACTLY] PM, for you not to get banned for that exactly act.

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Plus, I always respected the rules. I have never posted a naked model or something, I just asked thousand times why such a strict rule and I wasn't the only one. We just got ignored.
I posted that link in my sign because it wasn't external and I didn't consider it a spam, nor against the rules.
This is given. No links or URLs are permitted.

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And why don't you answer my questions, then? I ask why this and that and you just say "you show no respect for the rules". Wow.
I've answered all your questions in PM. If you don't understand, ask specifically what troubles you. If you don't WANT to understand, then it's not my problem.

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Old 18-08-12, 10:37   #9
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What's the point if you call any post/PM not literally hugging and kissing you "rude"?
Well, I wonder what they would think if they knew what you have just written to me

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I've answered all your questions in PM. If you don't understand, ask specifically what troubles you. If you don't WANT to understand, then it's not my problem.
Oh, you did? Nope. I am not saying I want porn on here. Did you just read what I have written? I don't want to post porn or naked models, this is not the point. I just asked why models with just some uncovered skin is not allowed, even if breasts and other intimate parts are fully covered.

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Old 18-08-12, 10:46   #10
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I'm sure the whole matter won't be a surprize for them, it would rather be a surprize that you're informed. Makes it harder to put across

Anyway you have NO permission to share PMs publicly. I don't want to be accused for you yourself digging you another hole
Feel free to forward the whole conversation to Justin if you want.

-- Edit --
Have you checked the link in my post above? Or the link was so rude that you angrily ignored it?

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