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Old 06-07-18, 21:03   #1371
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Though I would argue, as common courtesy, that credit and permission should not be left out in this case, as you're extracting a physical (well digital) object that someone else has made (though if you plan to adapt it beyond recognition, who would possibly know, but hence courtesy).
Of course! Credit is always appreciated, because someone made part of the work "for you" in some way, so thanking them is always appreciated.
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Old 06-07-18, 21:04   #1372
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Should I stream to bring it back on topic
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Old 06-07-18, 21:09   #1373
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Ripping/copying things from someone else with no work whatsoever (or very minimal) and claiming you did it yourself is plagiarism. Reworking it to make it your own, so it fits your level like if it was made for it, is not. This applies to TRLE but many other things.
It's like if you were saying Indiana Jones (Infernal Machine) and Tomb Raider (let's say TR3) plagiarized each other. It's the same kind of game, the concept, the gameplay elements, the control-scheme is very similar, both have a vehicle for descending rapids, both have mines with a minecart, both take place in several exotic locations, etc... but it's not plagiarism, because it's something that's meant to be different. You can clearly see Indiana Jones took inspiration from Tomb Raider for many things, but it's only inspiration, and what you see in Indiana Jones is something different. Both games use mostly the same elements, but both have their own identities.
Yes livestream for inspirational and motivational purposes. I get it now.

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I'd argue it would be much harder to do that. When you live-stream, you tend to be a bit less structured as you're also interacting with the users, testing, and hopping back and forth between rooms. And you're only seeing a view of the level from the perspective they are in and only the sections they're working on, in a typically lower bit-rate window, through whatever streaming device they use.
I'd imagine that it's much much easier to copy from a released level, as you can really inspect each nook and cranny, possibly use some importer package to rip it into the editor... if you're that way inclined.

Though I'd also argue that ripping a level into the LE isn't plagiarism or copying, as long as the only thing you're extracting is knowledge. But I'm also under the opinion that this is a touchy idea that should never be discussed.



Though I would argue, as common courtesy, that credit and permission should not be left out in this case, as you're extracting a physical (well digital) object that someone else has made (though if you plan to adapt it beyond recognition, who would possibly know, but hence courtesy).
Same.

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Should I stream to bring it back on topic
Right, sorry.
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Old 06-07-18, 21:10   #1374
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Should I stream to bring it back on topic
Haha, yeh please do! Though I'm going to bed soon.

Though, it is a civil on-topic conversation regarding plagiarism from live-stream level building (even though I do think it's a non issue).
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Old 06-07-18, 21:11   #1375
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Haha, yeh please do! Though I'm going to bed soon.

Though, it is a civil on-topic conversation regarding apparent plagiarism from live-stream level building (even though I do think it's a non issue). Should this just continue in the TRLE general chat thread?
It wasn’t about that, I was simply. curious to why builders livestream.
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It wasn’t about that, I was simply. curious to why builders livestream.
To be honest I have no idea...


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Haha, yeh please do! Though I'm going to bed soon.
Damn. So do I...
5-minute stream? xD

Oh wait Klona is streaming...
I'll let him and faint instead

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Old 06-07-18, 21:39   #1377
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This thread was derailed long enough.

Time to steal the spotlight:
https://www.twitch.tv/klona
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Old 06-07-18, 22:10   #1378
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To be honest I have no idea...
I settled for inspirational, motivational reason.
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Old 06-07-18, 23:08   #1379
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Playing a bit of Dutchy's Rescue (and maybe other trles) for a bit before I go to bed. Possibly no mic:
https://www.twitch.tv/agentxp07
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