30-07-17, 19:43 | #11 |
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Yep, and she pretty much stays that way until the end. I don't really mind the QTEs - although I agree a cinematic would have done just fine. What bugs me most is the ridiculous amount of enemies thrown towards you in the sections towards the end. It gets frustrating after a while. Mostly because that's not what Tomb Raider should be about. But I digress.
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31-07-17, 13:14 | #12 |
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It feels ridiculous because it's a lie. There's no way a single girl makes it out of those situations. The opening to Shantytown: you're pinned with no cover and there's like ten guys with a bead on you and can't miss grenade throwing arms.
No one gets out of that except through the "magic" of video games, and when the "magic" of video games is that obvious, it's a lie. It stops being fun. I tried playing Shantytown a couple of different ways that made "sense" for a lone person to play, but CD programmed the game so you can only play the game in a toe to toe firefight. |
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If you do you are in minority. I want to play a video game not a reality simulator. If you wanna talk about situations were a single girl (or boy) would not make it out well then Lara should have been dead in the Scavenger Den. |
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There is absolutely no problem with one person mowing down hundreds of enemies with ease. Only, such games are generally called fantasy.
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For the record: I adore the reboot, but my adoration doesn't blind me to its obvious flaws. Just clarifying so that I'm not classed as a 'hater'. |
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31-07-17, 16:01 | #15 | |
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2 Ofcourse no one believes that Lara, a normal girl could do and survive all that **** on the island so this has nothing to do with believability. But some of us have learned not to care about that as long as it does not become too ridiculous like shooting ice arrows from butt. 3 The game is consistent with the rules is setting . Cause from Scavenger Den they set the rule that Lara Croft a normal girl is going to make it out alive from situations she shouldn't. I do not understand why some players expected something else? Last edited by Costel; 31-07-17 at 16:10. |
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The spirit of an ancient queen trapped in a decaying body that can summon powerful storms. An undead army of stormguard warriors A giant Oni. From Scavenger Den the game has set the rule that this characters that talks, looks and bleeds like an actual human being will survive things that actual human beings would not survive so you should have not expecting something else from the rest of the game. |
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31-07-17, 17:55 | #18 | |
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And then there's classic Lara , okay she doesn't look like an ultra realistic human being but she doesn't walk like an Alien nor does she bleed like a frog either . Complaining about stuff like these in video games in particular is pretty pointless imo , guess what , no human being can keep coming back from the dead over and over again by a simple click on a "Load" icon , of course we can repeat on a daily basis how coming back from the dead a 1000 times is utterly ridiculous and implausible but it's like beating a dead horse , because it isn't going to get us anywhere . And Lara being able to kill all those men is part of that , conceptually we get that she's received extensive training from Roth on weaponry , therefore in the rule of the video game we're playing , she can kill all those men , and a bullet in the head won't be it for her , she'd just moan and we see a splash of blood coming out of her and that's it , subsequent shots will however get her killed but after that the game will reload and there she is again , with full health and full power . Now , in a reality simulator the first bullet in the leg in Shantytown would be the end and afterwards she'll get rained with bullets , she'll die and the game will finish , no load , no coming back alive and well , no respawn . I feel like I'm being a broken record in repeating the following but since this particular argument keeps popping up over and over I feel obliged to , yes , the reboot games are supposed to have a realistic and grounded approach in the visuals , characters and level design departments , but all of that is still established within the basics of the video game world in general , meaning that characters can run forever without breaking a sweat , they don't need to eat or take a poop onscreen , they do the exact same animations , can carry multiple weapons that don't appear on them , can have a health bar that doesn't really exist in real life etc . In a video game some things are bound to be taken into granted , no matter what universe , theme or atmosphere this game can have . And I'm sure CD weren't aiming to deliver a reality simulator , nor did they even say that , they were trying to make a video game that leans more towards realism in some departments , and that's 100% different to a reality simulator . In short : it's not like it should be either a 100% unrealistic game or a reality simulator , video games can have different approaches (there are purely fantastical games and there are also games that are a mix of realism and fantasy that lean more towards the former (Reboot) or towards the latter (Classics/LAU) ) but they all share a united bunch of basic rules . Last edited by Patrick star; 31-07-17 at 19:00. |
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By the way , since I've brought my examples right from Hollywood , let me remind you that it was a huge inspiration behind the reboot in general , especially with its bloody-minded action . And Ethan Hunt is a stylized character ? I mean what the mission impossible movies aren't fantasy or cartoon movies , they're movies that take place in our world , our timeline with real human beings , only that in the realm of action movies (ACTION movies , not fantasy ones like Harry Potter or the lord of the rings) , we have to , what's the word ? "swallow" certain stuff , such as the hero being able to swim in a sea of bullets and miraculously surviving it and having the ability to slaughter loads of baddies on his own , same with the reboot in the realm of video games , regardless of the approach it might be leaning towards . Last edited by Patrick star; 31-07-17 at 19:39. |
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