Pertinent Painting Puzzle

Greenkey2 · 10-04-12, 09:21

Does anyone remember how and when Eckhardt gets his hands on the fourth Obscura Painting - the one Lara went through so much to retrieve under the Louvre?

The only concrete facts I'm aware of are:

1) Kurtis steals the Painting from Lara during the almost-but-not-quite romantic mugging scene and...

2) Kurtis later tells Lara that 'sorry, that went AWOL at the Louvre'.

We don't actually get to see Kurtis get mugged or hand over the Painting voluntarily....do we?

For that matter, does anyone know where the other three Obscura Paintings were discovered?

In terms of artefact-finding, this is probably the shortest TR game in existance - the bad guys have done more than half of the work already!

aussie500 · 10-04-12, 09:50

Karel was waiting for one of them to come out of the Louvre to get his hands on the painting. We know Karel was waiting outside, Kurtis was unconscious so presumably Karel knocked him out, then knocked Lara out, stole the painting, hid Kurtis somewhere and walked off as Bouchard's doorman. Leaving Lara to be picked up by Bouchard.

It was never shown how Eckhardt got it, did it really matter? Presumably Karel possibly pretending to be someone else gave it to Bouchard to deliver, or maybe he just put it on Lara for Bouchard to find. But it was hard to be sure who was who sometimes. Bouchard mentioned at Vasiley's about taking delivery of the painting at the Louvre and delivering it to the Strahov, whether it was karel pretending to be Bouchard or the real Bouchard, Bouchard was in Prague for some reason. Kurtis admitted to having it and losing it, so it had to be Kurtis in the Louvre and Kurtis who was unconscious when Lara came out. We saw Karel speaking to Eckhardt while Kurtis was speaking to Lara, so it was the real Kurtis in the Strahov.

Hope that sort of made sense, if not blame it on Karel.

Edit - The precise words of the conversation about the painting.

Bouchard - I had to take delivery of a painting that was in the Louvre and bring it to the Strahov here in Prague.

Lara - My painting! That wasn't easy to get that out of the Louvre Bouchard.

Greenkey2 · 10-04-12, 20:11

So my suspicions are confirmed, and the whole really is as open-ended as is possible to be

Thanks for clearing that up Aussie - I really wasn't sure if I was missing something obvious.

Gah, blame it on that two-bit shapeshifter!

Profc · 11-04-12, 22:39

You might want to check these old posts.

http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showthread.php?t=185647

http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showthread.php?t=186375

10-04-12, 09:21	#1
Greenkey2 Moderator Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Nottinghamshire, England Posts: 16,205	Pertinent Painting Puzzle Does anyone remember how and when Eckhardt gets his hands on the fourth Obscura Painting - the one Lara went through so much to retrieve under the Louvre? The only concrete facts I'm aware of are: 1) Kurtis steals the Painting from Lara during the almost-but-not-quite romantic mugging scene and... 2) Kurtis later tells Lara that 'sorry, that went AWOL at the Louvre'. We don't actually get to see Kurtis get mugged or hand over the Painting voluntarily....do we? For that matter, does anyone know where the other three Obscura Paintings were discovered? In terms of artefact-finding, this is probably the shortest TR game in existance - the bad guys have done more than half of the work already! __________________ It is the province of knowledge to speak, and the privilege of wisdom to listen

10-04-12, 09:50	#2
aussie500 Moderator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 18,613	Karel was waiting for one of them to come out of the Louvre to get his hands on the painting. We know Karel was waiting outside, Kurtis was unconscious so presumably Karel knocked him out, then knocked Lara out, stole the painting, hid Kurtis somewhere and walked off as Bouchard's doorman. Leaving Lara to be picked up by Bouchard. It was never shown how Eckhardt got it, did it really matter? Presumably Karel possibly pretending to be someone else gave it to Bouchard to deliver, or maybe he just put it on Lara for Bouchard to find. But it was hard to be sure who was who sometimes. Bouchard mentioned at Vasiley's about taking delivery of the painting at the Louvre and delivering it to the Strahov, whether it was karel pretending to be Bouchard or the real Bouchard, Bouchard was in Prague for some reason. Kurtis admitted to having it and losing it, so it had to be Kurtis in the Louvre and Kurtis who was unconscious when Lara came out. We saw Karel speaking to Eckhardt while Kurtis was speaking to Lara, so it was the real Kurtis in the Strahov. Hope that sort of made sense, if not blame it on Karel. Edit - The precise words of the conversation about the painting. Bouchard - I had to take delivery of a painting that was in the Louvre and bring it to the Strahov here in Prague. Lara - My painting! That wasn't easy to get that out of the Louvre Bouchard. __________________ Emma Watson would make a great Lara, and a British actress should play a British icon! Last edited by aussie500; 10-04-12 at 10:39.

10-04-12, 20:11	#3
Greenkey2 Moderator Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Nottinghamshire, England Posts: 16,205	So my suspicions are confirmed, and the whole really is as open-ended as is possible to be Thanks for clearing that up Aussie - I really wasn't sure if I was missing something obvious. Gah, blame it on that two-bit shapeshifter! __________________ It is the province of knowledge to speak, and the privilege of wisdom to listen

11-04-12, 22:39	#4
Profc Explorer Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 846	You might want to check these old posts. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showthread.php?t=185647 http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showthread.php?t=186375