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Old 13-06-12, 11:11   #1
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Talking What is better: Metric or Imperial

Something that has been bugging me since forever: Absolutely everybody uses the metric system right now. That is, everybody except the US and the UK. And since their little language has grown so popular all over the world, they seem to think that their weird imperial units have any relevance, too. I, on the other hand, think that they should die. And I have actual reasons for this!

Metric units are better defined
There are precise scientific definitions for the meter, the second, the ampere and sort of for the kilogram. The imperial units have no direct equivalent. Instead, they are officially defined in terms of the metric system - i.e. the canadian system defines a yard as 9 1444/10 000 meters and everything else from that. This has little to no relevance in practice, but it shows that metric units are more scientific.

Easy conversions
How many meters are there in a kilometer? That's easy: Kilo = 10^3 = 1000. On the other hand, how many yards are there in a mile? Apparently it's 1760. There's no system to this; you just have to remember the numbers yourself.

Many units don't have imperial equivalents
This is particularly valid for electrical units, which were invented only after the metric system. There is no imperial version of the Ampere, the Volt, the Ohm or the Siemens. As a result, anyone using e.g. power in an electric system has the choice of either using only metric, or using two different systems and converting between metric power (Watt) and the imperial unit (horsepower) at the boundaries. One can place the boundaries elsewhere, but the conversion is necessary.

Mathematical formulas that make sense
Suppose you have a force F and a mass m. If you apply F to m, what is the acceleration? If F is in Newton and m is in kg, then a = F/m. On the other hand, if F is in lbf and m is in pound, then a = (F/m)/32.17. There is no good reason to have that 32.17 there. It just confuses everyone, and it is yet another constant that people have to remember.

Everyone else already does it
That one should be obvious.



In contrast, the complete list of advantages provided by the imperial system:

- It's what we always used.
- We like to annoy foreigners.

There are no other advantages to it.

What do you think?

I'm not sure if that 32.17 is correct, I've just looked it up quickly on the internet. The important part is that there is an annoying constant there, not what it is.
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Old 13-06-12, 11:21   #2
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Imperial, because that is what we use here. We tried using metrics back in the 70s I believe, but it didn't work out.

And why do you call English a "little" language if it is so popular and widely-used?
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Imperial, because that is what we use here. We tried using metrics back in the 70s I believe, but it didn't work out.
It didn't work out because you weren't willing to invest the time and money to make the change. Not because the imperial system has any advantages.

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And why do you call English a "little" language if it is so popular and widely-used?
Erm, just for fun. There isn't any bigger message behind that.
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Old 13-06-12, 11:26   #4
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The metric system makes so much more sense. Plus I've grown up using it .
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Old 13-06-12, 11:27   #5
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It didn't work out because you weren't willing to invest the time and money to make the change. Not because the imperial system has any advantages.
I guess. For now, I think that time and money spent converting everything to metrics could be used elsewhere. We have bigger problems than our measurement system right now

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Erm, just for fun. There isn't any bigger message behind that.
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Old 13-06-12, 11:27   #6
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Metric FTW. As an Engineer I can vouch that on a construction site if i may quote "all the dimensions are in mm"
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Metric. End of discussion. Numbah one.
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Old 13-06-12, 11:46   #8
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In all fairness, the only Imperial unit I see in use around Britain is the mile.

EDIT: I should add feet and inches to that too, I guess. D: And pint. Damnit, I give up. Metric is used pretty often over here, though.
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Old 13-06-12, 12:06   #9
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The US standard because...



























- It's what we always used.
- We like to annoy foreigners.



And I like how Cochrane made that last part of his post in tiny print... so very European of him.
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Old 13-06-12, 12:10   #10
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Imperial definitely. I admit it's not as "logical" as metric but it's what I've always used and thus it's better for me. We mostly use imperial here, thank God.
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