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leglion · 06-07-12, 04:26

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Originally Posted by larafan25

No, the bitching is annoying because of....some other reason.

Yea, Ok. Youy try to to tell me what i find annoying. Bye girl.

larafan25 · 06-07-12, 04:27

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Originally Posted by leglion

Yea, Ok. Youy try to to tell me what i find annoying. Bye girl.

And so a point is made.

just*raidin*tomb · 06-07-12, 06:00

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Originally Posted by leglion

Yea, Ok. Youy try to to tell me what i find annoying. Bye girl.

Why can't you just accept how people view the game and happily hold on to your own views as normal?

What does it matter what they think as long as you're happy with the game?

No need to contradict everything just because you hold the game with such a high regard. That doesn't mean everyone has to.

leglion · 06-07-12, 06:02

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Originally Posted by just*raidin*tomb

Why can't you just accept how people view the game and happily hold on to your own views as normal?

What does it matter what they think as long as you're happy with the game?

No need to contradict everything just because you hold the game with such a high regard. That doesn't mean everyone has to.

They can keep their views. That doesn't mean i can't be annoyed. Still love you though. xoxo.

just*raidin*tomb · 06-07-12, 06:03

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Originally Posted by leglion

They can keep their views. That doesn't mean i can't be annoyed. Still love you though. xoxo.

I'm just as annoyed, but I try not to be.

Luv u too, bby.

SeanCordernay · 06-07-12, 06:44

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Originally Posted by BigR4444

LOL... I think... they're ALL going to die... (seriously)

I cant help but laugh everytime someone around here talks about the old games and how great it was to "get lost"... I remember getting lost... it WAS NOT... FUN.... There was absolutely nothing "fun" about being stuck in the same part of the game for 2 weeks....it was infuriating... BUT... looking back, I remember the feeling of being a teenager, and tackling those games... and that feeling of nostalgia is what hits me the most...

Try that today... you actually think, that If you picked up Tomb Raider on March 5th, and got stuck somewhere for two weeks; you'd enjoy it!?
"Hey this game is great, ive been stuck on the same part now for like the last two weeks, and I cant figure out where to go... its fantastic, Im having so much fun!!!"

BS!!!

Sorry to interrupt this argument/ discussion, but this quote gave me life...

It seems, more than likely, that Lara will perhaps be the sole survivor once this game is over. And if anything, I wouldn't be surprised if most of the characters we've seen thus far die early on.

And in regards to getting lost, I feel exactly the same way. I don't mind the game being difficult, but in this day and age, I don't want to play a tomb raider where I'm stuck in the same places for ages. Not fun. I would like to progress please. And to get off topic for a moment, I will never forget the time when I got stuck in Tomb Raider the last Revelations. It was the first level after the tutorial levels (right after race for the iris), and I couldn't figure out how to open the gate above the lava pit. I was stuck there for months until I finally got some cheats. Turns out I had to jump on the signs to open it. Call me stupid, but that was the least obvious thing in the world to me at the time (I was kinda young). I didn't figure this out until years later
-_-...

And let's not get started on the first level of Tomb Raider 3...

MMAN · 06-07-12, 12:54

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Originally Posted by BigR4444

But this is exactly my point.... When I go back and look at the original TR games, the levels are just as linear as say... those in Underworld... Underworld had some backtracking...just as those games did... but people around here get that whiff of nostalgia and say things like, "man these Cd games are nowhere near as complex as the levels in the original TRs"

... its just not true...

Yes it is. Underworld is generally a big improvement on the level design in Legend, but it still mostly comes down to isolated pockets of gameplay separated by corridors with little interplay between them.

jajay119 · 06-07-12, 15:35

I think when Underworld did things wel, it did things really well. The Med sea, Thailand and Mexico were so much better than anything CD had done prior and had some nice expansive areas with original thinking put in there in regards to level design and platforming etc. However the difficulty of puzzles once again pulled the game down with most being just a 'do this twice' puzzle. And the level design got really uninspired returning to just mazes of corridoors and white ledges towards the end, not to mention the dull non boss fight. CD can do good things when they put their mind to it and have the time not to rush things so I have confidence for the reboot.

Also, I agree about that floor puzzle in TR4 too. It was not hard, it was just annoyingy ambiguous there was no inclination of what you were supposed to do. I was stuck in it for ages too. Fair enough I was 10 when I first played it... but still. I want puzzles that make you think... but not ones that are so non descript you are left with no idea what to do at all.

SeanCordernay · 06-07-12, 20:17

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Originally Posted by jajay119

I think when Underworld did things wel, it did things really well. The Med sea, Thailand and Mexico were so much better than anything CD had done prior and had some nice expansive areas with original thinking put in there in regards to level design and platforming etc. However the difficulty of puzzles once again pulled the game down with most being just a 'do this twice' puzzle. And the level design got really uninspired returning to just mazes of corridoors and white ledges towards the end, not to mention the dull non boss fight. CD can do good things when they put their mind to it and have the time not to rush things so I have confidence for the reboot.

Also, I agree about that floor puzzle in TR4 too. It was not hard, it was just annoyingy ambiguous there was no inclination of what you were supposed to do. I was stuck in it for ages too. Fair enough I was 10 when I first played it... but still. I want puzzles that make you think... but not ones that are so non descript you are left with no idea what to do at all.

I agree. I want puzzles that are interesting and challenging; puzzles that make you go "hmmm". And I also have faith in CD, to an extent. I believe that anything is possible with proper time.

Dustie · 08-07-12, 21:42

Again, no idea why they're doing what they're doing. The trend to make video games uber realistic was visible for a few years now, but as far as it's no harm when the graphics are photorealistic, it's a bit too much to try and make someone who is NOT real desperately seem like real. Her and her endeavors. It's a video game! Why the heck do they have to make her "real"? She does not need to be a kind of person we can meet on the street and talk to, for crying out loud. She was not a caricature, as they attempt to present it, she was simply a fictional character who was soooo appealing in all of her virtual presence that people fell for her heavily. She was not cool, interesting and kick-ass because she was some girl-next-door you could cut a chat with on your way for groceries. She was a hero of her own story, brave and iconic. The game was like a living comic book and action-adventure film in one. Why try to turn it into a drama novel now?...

06-07-12, 15:35	#128
jajay119 Tomb Raider Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 10,541	I think when Underworld did things wel, it did things really well. The Med sea, Thailand and Mexico were so much better than anything CD had done prior and had some nice expansive areas with original thinking put in there in regards to level design and platforming etc. However the difficulty of puzzles once again pulled the game down with most being just a 'do this twice' puzzle. And the level design got really uninspired returning to just mazes of corridoors and white ledges towards the end, not to mention the dull non boss fight. CD can do good things when they put their mind to it and have the time not to rush things so I have confidence for the reboot. Also, I agree about that floor puzzle in TR4 too. It was not hard, it was just annoyingy ambiguous there was no inclination of what you were supposed to do. I was stuck in it for ages too. Fair enough I was 10 when I first played it... but still. I want puzzles that make you think... but not ones that are so non descript you are left with no idea what to do at all. __________________ Don't you know that something will come around?

08-07-12, 21:42	#130
Dustie Professor Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Poland Posts: 2,873	Again, no idea why they're doing what they're doing. The trend to make video games uber realistic was visible for a few years now, but as far as it's no harm when the graphics are photorealistic, it's a bit too much to try and make someone who is NOT real desperately seem like real. Her and her endeavors. It's a video game! Why the heck do they have to make her "real"? She does not need to be a kind of person we can meet on the street and talk to, for crying out loud. She was not a caricature, as they attempt to present it, she was simply a fictional character who was soooo appealing in all of her virtual presence that people fell for her heavily. She was not cool, interesting and kick-ass because she was some girl-next-door you could cut a chat with on your way for groceries. She was a hero of her own story, brave and iconic. The game was like a living comic book and action-adventure film in one. Why try to turn it into a drama novel now?...