Should Crystal Dynamics look back to AOD?

WhosaidAODwasbad · 07-07-06, 13:33

I was wondering should Crystal Dynamics look back to AOD? This is a question because I myself think AOD had some cool features that if expanded on and better made or perfected could help make TR a more fun and expansive game! For example the strength of lara croft, I thought this element was very cool in AOD except it was implemented wrong and there weren't enough areas that are secret that you could go back to, to use it! Also the way you got your strength was dumb! I think its a nice Idea to make it more explorative game because sometimes you won't be strong enough to reach an area till later! next, talking to people was a great idea but sadly done totally wrong! Paris only had a few people, but imagine going to a town were you start your trip ask people were shops are to buy items and equipment and ask people about the local treasures or myths! This makes tomb raider seem more real rather than she just knows exactly were to go find the tomb it just seems lame and an old way to do games! Hey people have to ask people and read books and stuff to find where to go why can't lara! Also Like Core promised in AOD what if you could interegate people by gun point or speak to them nicely, depending on what you did they would either be terrified and tell you or not tell you! Also hand to hand combat I know alot of people hated this but its a great idea especially in when lara is trying to sneak around buildings or areas she shouldn't supposed to be! Although I hate human enemies to have hand to hand combat should be something tomb raider should have in cases of infultrating museums or buildings or what ever! Although it better not be tap the same button to punch and kick!

I think adding something like these things or these things but better done could make tomb raider better and more diverse! I really loved the talking thing but it was done wrong! Maybe CD can look back at Core's mistakes and perfected what they did not! AOD was on to something it was just poorly done!

Rivendell · 07-07-06, 13:40

I think they should look to AoD for:

Lara's personality
The choice of options in speech
Moves: sprinting, huge jumps, crawling, - all her good ol' moves
FMV's , love fmvs
Great plot

RAID · 07-07-06, 14:18

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Lara's personality

No, Lara in AOD was like an evil villain wannabe. Bring back TR1 2 & 3 Lara. Even in 4 and 5 she was too sarcastic I guess.

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The choice of options in speech

No. This is Tomb Raider, not Final Fantasy. What's next? Random Battles and EXP and level up? Oh lv up was already in Aod. Good God...

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Moves: sprinting, huge jumps, crawling, - all her good ol' moves

As long as the moves are there from the beginning, it's ok. But none of that "I can jump farther now" crap.

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FMV's , love fmvs

if you mean FMVs in general yes, but if you mean FMVs with graphics from AOD's fmvs then no

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Great plot

Aod wasn't that bad in story. Maybe if they finished it, it would've turned out quite nicely.

Rivendell · 07-07-06, 14:22

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The choice of options in speech
No. This is Tomb Raider, not Final Fantasy. What's next? Random Battles and EXP and level up? Oh lv up was already in Aod. Good God...

No. This is Tomb Raider, not Final Fantasy. What's next? Random Battles and EXP and level up? Oh lv up was already in Aod. Good God...

Choice of what to say in Final Fantasy? FF is just one set story, only once in a blue moon would you get the choice of an option!

I really liked that choice.
Plus AoD Lara's personality was a continuation of Last Revelation, which in itself is simply an evolution of TR 2 + 3 Lara. She got angrier because life was getting harder, she was hardly a villain!

RAID · 07-07-06, 14:25

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Choice of what to say in Final Fantasy? FF is just one set story, only once in a blue moon would you get the choice of an option!

There are some parts of FF where you have to choose what the character says, but anyway, speaking for myself, I hated the option of the speech thing. It doesn't seem Tomb Raider either. That's just an RPG Feature.

But I'm not worried. CD clearly stated that they are not using this kind of stuff from AOD.

Legend of Lara · 07-07-06, 14:26

I want the whole AoD Lara back. Her looks, her voice and her personality. AoD Lara was perfect. Why did they change her to a wimp that wants her mommy?

RAID · 07-07-06, 14:28

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I want the whole AoD Lara back. Her looks, her voice and her personality. AoD Lara was perfect. Why did they change her to a wimp that wants her mommy?

Well, I agree that they made her too good in TRL, but overall in terms of voice, looks and even personality, I like TRL Lara a whole lot more. But the best personality was Lara in the first 3 games.

TR freak · 07-07-06, 14:32

Yes I loved alot of aod features and I think they should be expanded upon. I liked the strength upgrade idea and I think that should be implemented in a better way so that it makes the player have to explore to find a task to do to get the upgrade which then she can make a big jump. I think that stealth was a good idea too but with aod stealth was never really nececary. I think there should be bits where u actually have to use stealth. Not a lot of bits tho. The commando crawl and the sprint jumps should be brought back.

MiCkiZ88 · 07-07-06, 14:52

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Originally Posted by Rivendell

I think they should look to AoD for:

Lara's personality
The choice of options in speech
Moves: sprinting, huge jumps, crawling, - all her good ol' moves
FMV's , love fmvs
Great plot

definately agree with you..

but I'd also like her long legs back and her face..

she looks too nice in trl.. wimpy..

and the story sucks in legend..

Rivendell · 07-07-06, 15:02

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Originally Posted by RAID

There are some parts of FF where you have to choose what the character says, but anyway, speaking for myself, I hated the option of the speech thing. It doesn't seem Tomb Raider either. That's just an RPG Feature.

Well I don't want TR to turn into an RPG either!

But, if TR was given another level like Paris, where you have to talk to people to find out info: all I'm saying is I'd much rather like to have a choice of what to say rather than going up to someone, pressing X, a small cutscene of them talking, then off we go. It'd just make the conversations more engaging.

Plus, how cool would this be?

Zip: Lara, I don't understand this myth, what's going on? Mind that gap Lara, look over there, maybe you should go tha-

Lara: Shut up, right now.

Zip: ....

Lara: Finally !

07-07-06, 13:33	#1
WhosaidAODwasbad Archaeologist Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,535	Should Crystal Dynamics look back to AOD? I was wondering should Crystal Dynamics look back to AOD? This is a question because I myself think AOD had some cool features that if expanded on and better made or perfected could help make TR a more fun and expansive game! For example the strength of lara croft, I thought this element was very cool in AOD except it was implemented wrong and there weren't enough areas that are secret that you could go back to, to use it! Also the way you got your strength was dumb! I think its a nice Idea to make it more explorative game because sometimes you won't be strong enough to reach an area till later! next, talking to people was a great idea but sadly done totally wrong! Paris only had a few people, but imagine going to a town were you start your trip ask people were shops are to buy items and equipment and ask people about the local treasures or myths! This makes tomb raider seem more real rather than she just knows exactly were to go find the tomb it just seems lame and an old way to do games! Hey people have to ask people and read books and stuff to find where to go why can't lara! Also Like Core promised in AOD what if you could interegate people by gun point or speak to them nicely, depending on what you did they would either be terrified and tell you or not tell you! Also hand to hand combat I know alot of people hated this but its a great idea especially in when lara is trying to sneak around buildings or areas she shouldn't supposed to be! Although I hate human enemies to have hand to hand combat should be something tomb raider should have in cases of infultrating museums or buildings or what ever! Although it better not be tap the same button to punch and kick! I think adding something like these things or these things but better done could make tomb raider better and more diverse! I really loved the talking thing but it was done wrong! Maybe CD can look back at Core's mistakes and perfected what they did not! AOD was on to something it was just poorly done!

07-07-06, 14:26	#6
Legend of Lara Legend Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Iceland ★ Criesland Posts: 42,717	I want the whole AoD Lara back. Her looks, her voice and her personality. AoD Lara was perfect. Why did they change her to a wimp that wants her mommy? __________________ That's right. Our weakness is that we're stupid.

07-07-06, 13:40	#2
Rivendell Legend Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Misty Mountains ♂ Posts: 38,842	I think they should look to AoD for: Lara's personality The choice of options in speech Moves: sprinting, huge jumps, crawling, - all her good ol' moves FMV's , love fmvs Great plot

07-07-06, 14:32	#8
TR freak Professor Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 4,183	Yes I loved alot of aod features and I think they should be expanded upon. I liked the strength upgrade idea and I think that should be implemented in a better way so that it makes the player have to explore to find a task to do to get the upgrade which then she can make a big jump. I think that stealth was a good idea too but with aod stealth was never really nececary. I think there should be bits where u actually have to use stealth. Not a lot of bits tho. The commando crawl and the sprint jumps should be brought back.