Darren Brown - How Real is Too Real

Spitfire · 12-08-06, 03:08

On a more serious note i was searching through the 1up forums and came across this really interesting thread about games and their evolution in realism. There was also a video about a psycologist doing an experiment bringing games to life through a crazy scheme, I'm sure the whole process was fake but it was entertaining and extremely innovative in it's meaning and process that it got me thinking, what is your stance on realism, how real is too real?

Video on Realistic Game - Watch it too the end, really interesting and creative

Lenochka · 12-08-06, 03:22

Wow that was a great watch! That was crazy how they put him through that then put him back in front of the game like he never even left it... Im not really with making games look to realistic... i think the fun in games is how unrealistic they are... making them seem life like kinda creeps me out...

Spitfire · 12-08-06, 03:54

It would really depend on the genre if it was creepy or better

The video was brilliant but far to unbelievable in my opinion. But when comming to the subject at hand i think Realism plays a crucial role in engaging a player in a game. Now having a controller in your hands is by far a different situation of realism than being "in" the game. I'm not going to really go to deep into being "in" a game because knowing that your playing a game is different from what that video showed, he was being tricked into thing it was all real so i can't comment on it fairly.

As for current games with the means of a controller I'm all for realism. Like previously said i think if your car took a hard hit against a wall from a wrong turn and your vehicle smashed into pieces and you couldn't contrinue driving that would be incredible, it would really test the gamers skills. Now with this added realistic effects and physics could come fustration for older gamers who don't want such harsh consequences for taking a wrong turn and don't want the lap to race just because they hit a wall with their car, I mean after all it is a game. Things like realism should be added but in small doses. Things like no HUB and a limited supply of items in an inventory is one of the best additions of realism to ever grace games, it added a level of strategy that was never seen before. Things like updated physics and and graphics right away add more realism, a great example is the new game comming out for the PS3, MotorStorm. The fact that when you race your car leaves dents and paves it way in the mud affecting the track for the rest of that round is brilliant! Basically by adding realism your adding stragey because the more real things become for a game the mroe challenging things become. Games like Half life force you to use the enviroment when dealing with certain situations, with its added realistic physics engine you can't just pull a switch and things fall into place, your required to take weight and positioning into account when doing some of the activities required to advance in the game.

My stance on realism is a for sure go, i would like nothing more than to see more realistic consequences for the choices a player makes and adding that sense of strategy to a game. Knowing that you can die after only a few shots feels more exciting than a game where you can take a hail storm of metal and keep on running like it was all good because the bar in the top corner says you still live. Maybe something like a limp or slower movement would be a great improvement, impaired eyesight from a characters physical state would be really cool. Realism is the next step in bringing games to a whole new dimension, its currently happening now, slowly but its happening.

laralives · 12-08-06, 04:22

Ive dreamed of being in TR 1 2 3 4 5 6 and 7

the only one that did not freak me out was 7n

Spitfire · 12-08-06, 05:07

i've had tomb raider dreams too, very funky...all had AJ but i won't go into detail since this is an all ages forum

Lenochka · 12-08-06, 05:48

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Originally Posted by Spitfire

i've had tomb raider dreams too, very funky...all had AJ but i won't go into detail since this is an all ages forum

oh my

hehe
I have once had a dream about TR also... something about me and lara on some alien space craft... it was really wierd...

Spitfire · 12-08-06, 06:10

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Originally Posted by Lenochka

oh my

hehe
I have once had a dream about TR also... something about me and lara on some alien space craft... it was really wierd...

Lara...in a space ship...errr

Taleigha · 12-08-06, 12:05

is that that Derrin Brown guy? yeah he's good but David Blanes better. waow he pulls some good stunts. it was a shame for him when he did the stunt in london and all the english were taunting him. thats the difference btween english and americans, americans cheer people on, english bring them down. no wonder he did his next stunt in the US.

Angelx14 · 12-08-06, 12:24

Aww, poor guy.That wasn't so nice

He got tricked..

But anyway, I would like to be in a game too..only not about zombies. In TR would be cool.

I had a dream. I was in Resident Evil..

jackles · 12-08-06, 13:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taleigha

is that that Derrin Brown guy? yeah he's good but David Blanes better. waow he pulls some good stunts. it was a shame for him when he did the stunt in london and all the english were taunting him. thats the difference btween english and americans, americans cheer people on, english bring them down. no wonder he did his next stunt in the US.

Yep thats us.....evil so and so's....dead cynical etc.....

I dont think ALL the english were taunting him...just a few twonks!

12-08-06, 03:08	#1
Spitfire Relic Hunter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Oakland, CA Posts: 6,131	Darren Brown - How Real is Too Real On a more serious note i was searching through the 1up forums and came across this really interesting thread about games and their evolution in realism. There was also a video about a psycologist doing an experiment bringing games to life through a crazy scheme, I'm sure the whole process was fake but it was entertaining and extremely innovative in it's meaning and process that it got me thinking, what is your stance on realism, how real is too real? Video on Realistic Game - Watch it too the end, really interesting and creative __________________ Born to Blossom, Bloom to Perish Last edited by Spitfire; 12-08-06 at 03:17.

12-08-06, 03:22	#2
Lenochka Tomb Raider Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: The Dark Depths of Britney's Ratty Extensions Gender: Male Posts: 21,317	Wow that was a great watch! That was crazy how they put him through that then put him back in front of the game like he never even left it... Im not really with making games look to realistic... i think the fun in games is how unrealistic they are... making them seem life like kinda creeps me out... __________________ Patterns will fall as quick as I do. Last edited by Lenochka; 12-08-06 at 03:26.

12-08-06, 03:54	#3
Spitfire Relic Hunter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Oakland, CA Posts: 6,131	It would really depend on the genre if it was creepy or better The video was brilliant but far to unbelievable in my opinion. But when comming to the subject at hand i think Realism plays a crucial role in engaging a player in a game. Now having a controller in your hands is by far a different situation of realism than being "in" the game. I'm not going to really go to deep into being "in" a game because knowing that your playing a game is different from what that video showed, he was being tricked into thing it was all real so i can't comment on it fairly. As for current games with the means of a controller I'm all for realism. Like previously said i think if your car took a hard hit against a wall from a wrong turn and your vehicle smashed into pieces and you couldn't contrinue driving that would be incredible, it would really test the gamers skills. Now with this added realistic effects and physics could come fustration for older gamers who don't want such harsh consequences for taking a wrong turn and don't want the lap to race just because they hit a wall with their car, I mean after all it is a game. Things like realism should be added but in small doses. Things like no HUB and a limited supply of items in an inventory is one of the best additions of realism to ever grace games, it added a level of strategy that was never seen before. Things like updated physics and and graphics right away add more realism, a great example is the new game comming out for the PS3, MotorStorm. The fact that when you race your car leaves dents and paves it way in the mud affecting the track for the rest of that round is brilliant! Basically by adding realism your adding stragey because the more real things become for a game the mroe challenging things become. Games like Half life force you to use the enviroment when dealing with certain situations, with its added realistic physics engine you can't just pull a switch and things fall into place, your required to take weight and positioning into account when doing some of the activities required to advance in the game. My stance on realism is a for sure go, i would like nothing more than to see more realistic consequences for the choices a player makes and adding that sense of strategy to a game. Knowing that you can die after only a few shots feels more exciting than a game where you can take a hail storm of metal and keep on running like it was all good because the bar in the top corner says you still live. Maybe something like a limp or slower movement would be a great improvement, impaired eyesight from a characters physical state would be really cool. Realism is the next step in bringing games to a whole new dimension, its currently happening now, slowly but its happening. __________________ Born to Blossom, Bloom to Perish

12-08-06, 04:22	#4
laralives Professor Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Richmond, IN Posts: 3,655	Ive dreamed of being in TR 1 2 3 4 5 6 and 7 the only one that did not freak me out was 7n __________________ Goodbye my almost lover...

12-08-06, 05:07	#5
Spitfire Relic Hunter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Oakland, CA Posts: 6,131	i've had tomb raider dreams too, very funky...all had AJ but i won't go into detail since this is an all ages forum __________________ Born to Blossom, Bloom to Perish

12-08-06, 12:05	#8
Taleigha Explorer Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 723	is that that Derrin Brown guy? yeah he's good but David Blanes better. waow he pulls some good stunts. it was a shame for him when he did the stunt in london and all the english were taunting him. thats the difference btween english and americans, americans cheer people on, english bring them down. no wonder he did his next stunt in the US. __________________ someone's always someone elses one.

12-08-06, 12:24	#9
Angelx14 Tomb Raider Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: GB Posts: 10,811	Aww, poor guy.That wasn't so nice He got tricked.. But anyway, I would like to be in a game too..only not about zombies. In TR would be cool. I had a dream. I was in Resident Evil.. __________________ Nolumus mutari