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tazmine
22-10-03, 23:41
A woman who has been in a "permanent vegetative state" according to some doctors, is the center of a fire storm controversy in Florida. I'm not sure how long she has been this way, but her husband petitioned the courts to remove her feeding tube, stating that they had had numerous conversations in which she had said she would never want to be kept alive that way. Apparently, a number of other friends & family members backed up his story that these were her wishes.

Anyway, her parents have other ideas, & feel that if she is given the proper rehab, they can take her home to live with them.

The feeding tube had been removed a week ago, but the parents petitioned the court, the Florida legislature passed a special bill, & Governor Jeb Bush stepped in & ordered her feeding tube reinstated.

It has been put back in, but speculation is that massive organ failure would have taken place during the week it was out.

What an awful tragedy. I just can't imagine being either the spouse or the parents. Sad story all the way around. Husband's lawyer says that an MRI of her cerebral cortex shows a "black hole", now filled with spinal fluid.

Hug your loved ones especially tight tonight! :(

groovy_nub
22-10-03, 23:46
I think they should let this poor woman die, she is not living! Personally I would not want to "live" like that, I have a living will and if that happened to me, they can pull the plug or whatever, this is a sad case for everyone involved!

~Kas

kenny
22-10-03, 23:47
hi taz i read that in the paper also . that is a sad story.

tazmine
22-10-03, 23:53
Hi Kas & Kenny..we can't have living wills here in Canada the way you can (I assume in the States). I think doctors routinely pull plugs, but they have to keep a very low profile. My daughter's doctor (a specialist, but I won't name her) went to trial here a few years ago for pulling the plug on someone who was dying: humane, in my opinion, but not in everyone's. I wouldn't want to live that way either.

neil4768
22-10-03, 23:53
And there call keeping people alive like this medicine.

I feel for her relatives, not a pleasent situation to be in.

In Brition a living will is not a legal document but some doctors will take it into account when making a decsion. I definitly would want to be kept alive in a situation like this.

groovy_nub
22-10-03, 23:56
I can understand how her parents want to keep her, but to me that is just being selfish! I would not want to see my child like that, yes what happened to her was tragic but it is time to move on, besides who would look after her when her parents are not able to? I think it should be the husbands decison, so sad!

~Kas

tazmine
23-10-03, 00:03
We are really so much kinder to our pets than we are to people. A few years ago we had our old, beloved lab put to sleep. He was just a wonderful dog, but arthritis got him to the point that one morning he tried to stand up & kept falling down. We called the vet out to the house, she gave him an injection, & he passed away happily. If only we could do this so easily with people.

groovy_nub
23-10-03, 00:08
Taz, was there not a famous case in Canada about a man that killed his daughter? Did he ever go to jail, that was so terrible, I really feel for him, what a thing to be able to do? I think he has to live with that why would they put him in jail?

This world really depresses me sometimes, do not even get me started on what I read today about the 10 month old that was stabbed to death :(

~Kas

neil4768
23-10-03, 00:09
As you said Tazmine if you kept a pet in a poor state of health and in had no quality of life and was suffering you would probably geet taken to court for it. Yet we treat humnans completly differnet.

I feel that euthanasia should be come law and be properly controlled by Governements, to let people die with diginity and end any suffering tht they have.

tazmine
23-10-03, 00:11
Yes, he did go to jail...the poor man is still there. He killed his daughter to put her out of her suffering...she was in pain all the time, & there was nothing they could do to help her. Our justice system really stinks sometimes. This man is not a criminal, & should not be in jail.

groovy_nub
23-10-03, 00:17
That makes me mad :mad:

There are murders and rapists and child abusers our running around, and some person like that man is in jail :mad:

What is wrong with society :confused: I am trying to make the world a better place, but I can not do it by myself, and I only have time to do so much and my volunteer list is getting longer and longer but I get upset when I do not get it all done :(

~Kas

tazmine
23-10-03, 00:18
You do what you can, & each little light makes the world a brighter place. :D

groovy_nub
23-10-03, 00:21
I know, but sometimes I just have a breakdown, if I could I would spend all my time helping others, but with school and work, it is so fustrating, if I can get ten hours a week in I am happy with that!

~Kas

tazmine
23-10-03, 00:23
That is SO MUCH MORE than most people do: feel good about yourself.

groovy_nub
23-10-03, 00:27
I know, but none of my friends will volunteer, they are like what do you mean you do not get paid???

At least my boyfriend is also into community service, so we usually take a Sat and Sun when he is not working and just go all out!

Wish more people would do it, you are either part of the problem or part of the solution http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

~Kas