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Draco
26-11-03, 08:46
What do you think?

Geck-o-Lizard
26-11-03, 12:01
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jun89
26-11-03, 12:02
http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/privateeye.gif

FallenStar
26-11-03, 14:15
alone...in the dark...i would like to. :eek:

TheEveningStar
26-11-03, 14:19
I think there is some kind of life out there. If there is no life, then I say what the movie Contact says: "Is just a waist of space". So, I do think there is. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/wave.gif

Annacia
26-11-03, 16:00
There has to be others!!

Miss60
26-11-03, 16:12
It just wouldn't make sense that out of this neverending universe, there is only one planet with life on it ;)

Draco
26-11-03, 16:40
Wow, somebody actually voted that we are alone... http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/privateeye.gif

lost_raider1299
26-11-03, 16:46
i really do not believe we are not alone http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/privateeye.gif

Isabella
26-11-03, 17:03
No, you are not alone.

Apofiss
26-11-03, 17:23
We are not SpaceAlone! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/mischievous.gif

Lady Ann
26-11-03, 17:29
You guys say we are not alone... prove it. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

dmc444
26-11-03, 17:29
We are all made of stardust. :eek:

spence
26-11-03, 18:11
Carbon??

the croft woman!
26-11-03, 18:15
somewhere outhere, whether their less or more advanced in life than we are, there ARE other life forms out there!

Lady ann, you tell us to prove we are not alone, why dont you prove that we ARE alone, with evidence http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/mischievous.gif

TopCat.TopBeing
26-11-03, 18:21
i think we are ' http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/privateeye.gif '

Lady Ann
26-11-03, 18:24
hehe. good point thecroftwoman!. But isn't it safe to say that if we have no evidence that life exists on other planets, that it doesn't exist?

This reminds me of the riddle..."If a tree falls in the forest but no one was around to see or hear it fall, did it really fall?" :D

Maybe the best thing to say is "as of right now" we are alone in the universe. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/wave.gif

tlr online
26-11-03, 20:57
Originally posted by Lady Ann:
hehe. good point thecroftwoman!. But isn't it safe to say that if we have no evidence that life exists on other planets, that it doesn't exist?That's a bit narrow-minded. I've no doubt life exists elsewhere, I wouldn't be that arrogant to think we're the only intelligent life in a infinite universe.

gonga
26-11-03, 22:16
Of the 30+ satelites of Jupiter, at least three are covered with water. I believe we'll find life there which is similar to that here but genetically different enough to show 4.6 billion years of parallel evolution. If so, Carl Sagan's panspermia hypothesis (that space contains primitive "seeds" of life) will generate new interest.

The problem is, how do we explore them without contaminating them? NASA was worried enough about this question to crash Galileo into Jupiter in order to prevent a possible crash / contamination on Europa, Ganymede or Callisto.

Bokkie
26-11-03, 22:22
I voted 'NO', I believe there are some kind of life miles and miles away from Earth http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/wave.gif

gonga
26-11-03, 22:47
We already have plenty of evidence of aliens! When we stepped foot on the Moon, we became the only aliens for which there is verified evidence.

For much of the recent history of humankind, whenever someone said "it'll never happen" they were invariably proven incorrect. It was believed we'd never fly, never go to the Moon, etc. However, although probably unpopular, the case can be made that we will never visit another solar system. The closest, Alpha Centauri, is 4.1 light years away. Travelling the speed of light, a round trip would require a minimum of a ten-year commitment. And what would we do once there? There's no guarantee of a landing spot, let alone usable materials, etc. Such a mission would have to be completely self-contained.

However, the real problem is reaching a high enough speed to make such great distances feasible. Solid physical evidence currently indicates it is not possible to travel fast enough, and if we did, any encounter with matter en route - even one atom - would result in a nuclear explosion. Even if we were to take 100 years en route (any takers?), we'd still need to move 300 thousand meters per second (one million, eighty-thousand kilometers per hour or 679 thousand miles per hour). Bit of a problem - for others in the Universe as well!

[ 26. November 2003, 23:51: Message edited by: gonga ]

Annacia
26-11-03, 22:52
The solution is simple, we get a Navigator to fold space.

Bokkie
26-11-03, 22:58
Do you know that all we may see on Alpha Centauri is lating 4.1 years. It means that what wee see on Alpha Centauri was happened 4.1 years ago there ;)

John Falstaff
26-11-03, 23:12
Hi Everyone,

http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/wave.gif

I've been checking around. Apart from two cats I'm definately alone - nary a sign of a space alien.

MMmmmm. Could they look like ... OMG cats? http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/yikes.gif

http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/privateeye.gif

If there are aliens are they necessarily carbon-based life form? Would we recognise them? Do we care? (eh? http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/whistle.gif )

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gonga
26-11-03, 23:55
http://www.gamers-forums.com/smilies/cwm/cwm/thinkerg.gif Well we know it's not you, John

gonga
27-11-03, 00:01
If we didn't recognize it, would it be alive, or something else? :D

Lady Ann
27-11-03, 00:16
I'm just curious... why do people believe there has to be life on other planets?

John Falstaff
27-11-03, 00:16
I don't know Gonga, that seems a sort of 'Are all swans white?' question!

;)

Isabella
27-11-03, 00:30
There is far too much that we don't know about and who knows how vast space is. Earth could be like a grain of sand at the bottom of the ocean that sits comfortably beneath a rock. So much is happening around it and far beyond it. It seems almost impossible that there is not some other form(s) of life.

Geck-o-Lizard
27-11-03, 00:34
I'll bet we're just too stupid to recognise it even if an alien came up and slapped us on the face http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/privateeye.gif

John Falstaff
27-11-03, 00:35
I know one is all alone!

(Collapses once more onto fits of solipsism.)

Talking to myself - yet again.

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Isabella
27-11-03, 00:40
Originally posted by John Falstaff:
I know one is all alone!

(Collapses once more onto fits of solipsism.)

Talking to myself - yet again.

http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/redface.gif I thought it had already been established that cats were aliens. At least you seemed to toy with the idea that yours were. ;) http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0903/tiere/animal-smiley-070.gif

Geck-o-Lizard
27-11-03, 00:41
I thought they were dogs? :confused: http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/privateeye.gif http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/silent.gif http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/clown.gif

John Falstaff
27-11-03, 00:45
I tend to agree with Geck-o-Lizard on this one. I mean, as Douglas Adams suggested, we never really recognised the Dolphins, let alone the mice! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/love4.gif

Genocide
27-11-03, 00:46
my friends mum thinks that the chinese are aliens...or hybrids...just because WE can't find them may not stop them finding us.
But would they be friendl or hostile?

Geck-o-Lizard
27-11-03, 00:51
I guess that would depend on what was on offer for dinner http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/privateeye.gif http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

John Falstaff
27-11-03, 00:53
I don't think my cats are dogs!

:confused:

I have two of each.

The proposition that any, or all, may be aliens is still on the table.

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What features am I looking for n order to tell?

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Geck-o-Lizard
27-11-03, 00:56
Abnormal additional limbs, extraordinary intelligence (or vice versa), sudden inexplicable tendancies towards attacking the lampshade... :D

Isabella
27-11-03, 00:58
Originally posted by John Falstaff:
I don't think my cats are dogs!

:confused:

I have two of each.

The proposition that any, or all, may be aliens is still on the table.

http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/mischievous.gif

What features am I looking for n order to tell?

http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/privateeye.gif An uncanny urge to become their devoted servent and finding yourself speaking to them in a voice that neither you nor your friends would recognize as your own.

gonga
27-11-03, 00:58
My mother-in-law's an alien. Really!

gonga
27-11-03, 01:01
Originally posted by Isabella:

"An uncanny urge to become their devoted servent and finding yourself speaking to them in a voice that neither you nor your friends would recognize as your own."

Sounds like my own children! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/yikes.gif

[ 27. November 2003, 02:02: Message edited by: gonga ]

Isabella
27-11-03, 01:05
Originally posted by gonga:
Originally posted by Isabella:

"An uncanny urge to become their devoted servent and finding yourself speaking to them in a voice that neither you nor your friends would recognize as your own."

Sounds like my own children! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/yikes.gif lol!

Good evening gonga http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/wave.gif

(As of now, my pets are my children) Much to my mothers dismay :rolleyes:

gonga
27-11-03, 02:22
I had a cat for 18 years. Aralia had me totally figured out.

lost_raider1299
27-11-03, 09:58
Originally posted by lost_raider1299:
i really do not believe we are not alone http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/privateeye.gif oops i mean i dont think we are alone, there is life out there some where http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/privateeye.gif

Draco
27-11-03, 17:01
Seems most people dont think we are alone, but there is a lot of support for the http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/privateeye.gif theory...

TR-Player
27-11-03, 17:08
Since I don't know the http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/privateeye.gif theory http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif I voted that we aren't alone http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

swimfanc42tr
27-11-03, 17:21
There are too many galaxies and stars to say that we are alone in this universe. I think they are out there somewhere.. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/privateeye.gif

Annacia
27-11-03, 17:26
Originally posted by Isabella:
An uncanny urge to become their devoted servent and finding yourself speaking to them in a voice that neither you nor your friends would recognize as your own.OMG!! VALI!! http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/yikes.gif

Rommie
27-11-03, 18:22
I voted no. Space is huge, and we are just one tiny part of it. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

Plus I don't think humans are intelligent enough to think up the stealth bomber. :D http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Marcus T
28-11-03, 13:05
I don't think we're alone. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

An interesting thought: Life needs order and specific conditions to be possible. Life here would not be possible if Earth's axis was slightly more or less tilted, if we were closer or further away from the Sun, if Earth was larger/smaller, if the moon was larger or smaller (the gravity-pull affects weather here, size matters), if we had more than one moon, if we didn't have a moon, if Earth rotation period was longer or shorter, if the Sun was larger/smaller. Consider the fact that if any of these things would be altered, the rest of the conditions would have to be altered along with it, to support life. (There are certainly more conditions that I haven't mentioned). Then you realise how fragile life is, and the incredibility of it. We live in a vast an infinite space, billions of galaxies, and even more billions of stars (solar systems)... among all these stars, there is to our knowledge one planet/system that hold all conditions for the possibility of life: our own. If all conditions to support life exist on other worlds, I'd consider that proof that the universe has been "designed".

FallenStar
28-11-03, 13:38
alone....be a free....without yourself....