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Andromeda66
08-07-06, 17:07
Ever had dreams where you knew you were dreaming? Where you were in the driver's seat when it came to events?

Its the most incredible feeling to be able to create your own world.

Often one doesnt realise one is dreaming WHILE one's in it. And realising just that is a wonderful feeling.

I've been experimenting with dreams becuse they're just so fascinating and it turns out (more often than not) that the thoughts that go through my mind just before I fall asleep, bundled with my intention to be aware of my dream while in it, really helps me experience a whole new world. Its Magical!

Anyone else a lucid dreamer here?

BlackGrey
08-07-06, 17:09
I do believe, I have had a similar expierence and it was quite exoctic. It was a very brief control and after that I never actually was interested in controlling my dreams but I might try to do it tonight. What have you expierenced with this control Andromeda?

jarhead
08-07-06, 17:12
i can sometimes remember what i dream about and its a wonderfull feeliong going with the flow and its sad to have to wake up. i love it when you've just wopken up but you drift backwards and forwards not knowing if your dreaming or not

Elysia
08-07-06, 17:12
:D Yep!

I've been able to do it since I was a kid. I don't know how I managed to train myself to do it (and it doesn't always work), but I lucid dream a lot. I have these absolutely fantastic dreams that I call my 'Great Escape' dreams - something bad is after me (in the past it has been giant robots, a tidal wave, assassins etc), and I have to evade them... and everything I do just works perfectly. They're really thrilling - I can't shake the bad thing off, but my ways of evading them work, so they're like being in your own action movie!

Andromeda66
08-07-06, 17:13
'all by your own control' . Of course now that you're awake (presumably), you know that you were doing what you were doing by your own consent. But that because you're awake. Did you know that you were dreaming when you were dreaming?

Does any of that make sense to you? :confused: I'm bad with words.

EDIT:

Elysia: So you plan out your own escapades? As in you know you're going to have a mutant robot chasing you down the street before you go to sleep?

PS: And the fact that you have a innate ability to do it is just fantastic. I ha dto train myself hard with intent. And it still doesnt work ALL the time. :tmb:

Mad Tony
08-07-06, 17:16
Yep, I've had those dreams sometimes.

Elysia
08-07-06, 17:18
'all by your own control' . Of course now that you're awake (presumably), you know that you were doing what you were doing by your own consent. But that because you're awake. Did you know that you were dreaming when you were dreaming?

Does any of that make sense to you? :confused: I'm bad with words.
Normally they start off as normal dreams and then, at some point, I 'realise' I'm in the driving seat. I dream very vividly anyway - I think I developed my lucid dreaming as a way of combating the terrible nightmares I used to suffer with when I was younger.

I can't really explain it - they're really odd, but I like them. (althugh sometimes they can be a bit embarrasing when you wake up! Then you start wondering what was subconcious and what was being directed by the awake part of your brain... :o )

Andromeda66
08-07-06, 17:21
A TR game inside your head with custom levels. :jmp: Gosh what fun.

psychokitten
08-07-06, 17:21
I had the lamest dream the other night that I was Lara, in the Japan level lol! It wasn't until I realised I was jumping rather long distances that I thought to myself hey, I can't do that..can I?

But yeah, I dream like that a lot, it's how I get myself to sleep :)

Andromeda66
08-07-06, 17:22
I had the lamest dream the other night that I was Lara, in the Japan level lol! It wasn't until I realised I was jumping rather long distances that I thought to myself hey, I can't do that..can I?



Dyou remember what happened affter you said that to yourself?

Elysia
08-07-06, 17:24
Elysia: So you plan out your own escapades? As in you know you're going to have a mutant robot chasing you down the street before you go to sleep?

PS: And the fact that you have a innate ability to do it is just fantastic. I ha dto train myself hard with intent. And it still doesnt work ALL the time. :tmb:
It doesn't happen all the time, and I don't normally 'plan' to dream about anything. There just comes a point when I realise that I can do stuff, and that I'm in charge. I had an AoD dream once and managed to completely 're-write' the Paris section of the game in my head. Lara had a motorbike, and the sewers section was different - she had to climb up theis brick section (not as a ladder, but as a selection of difficult block-jumps) and then climb out of a semi covered pipe (it was covered in mesh and it had a hole in it). Something was chasing Lara - I had the dream a while ago, and I can't remember what it was, but I know she was escaping. Once she got out of the hole, she ran down the street and found her motorcycle. and drove it off (it was night time - I can remember that much). Then she had to dive into a canal to 'throw the enemy off the scent' - I remember her (me) 'hiding' close to the wall of the canal in the water, watching these shadowy figures looking for her (me). When they passed, she continued to swim on. It was odd, because sometimes it was in 3rd person, and sometimes 1st. Still, it was pretty thrilling, being able to evade all the enemies the way I wanted to!

We have some pretty weird sleep-relating things going on in my family - I lucid dream and sleep talk, my mother has vivid night terrors and my sister sleep walks for England. Only my Dad and brother sleep normally!

Andromeda66
08-07-06, 17:27
Gosh thats fascinating Elysia. Dyou ever consider recording your sleep talk?

Elysia
08-07-06, 17:36
My Dad wanted to record a 'sleep conversation' my mother and I were having whilst asleep... in seperate rooms! He woke up to hear my Mum talking, and could hear a voice in another room - it wasn't until he stood in the corridor between our two rooms that he realised we were talking to each other. How we were doing it, no one knows (my mum has been to a lot of sleep specialists to sort her night terrors out, but they have no idea why she does it). He said it was pretty weird... but I've never recorded myself, no. I think I'd be too embarassed to know what I'd say! My husband has held whole conversations with me, though - he thought I was awake, but I was actually sound asleep.

I also get sleep paralysis (Incubis / Succubus syndrome) when your mind is awake but your body is asleep. That's quite scary...

Jamie18
08-07-06, 17:43
If you don't naturally do it, there are ways you can teach yourself to - for example if you learn to associate a certain thing (e.g. an action) with dreaming, it will help you become lucid while you are in one.

Like if say you end up associating your watch with dreaming, when in the dream, if you happen to notice the watch, your mind will realise you are dreaming.

It's hard to explain but I read a lot up on it a few years ago - such an interesting topic.

I've only been able to do it a couple of times, and each time it was amazing, with being able to fly etc. - but normally I have to fight myself from waking up and it never lasts very long.

Andromeda66
08-07-06, 17:47
My Dad wanted to record a 'sleep conversation' my mother and I were having whilst asleep... in seperate rooms! He woke up to hear my Mum talking, and could hear a voice in another room - it wasn't until he stood in the corridor between our two rooms that he realised we were talking to each other. How we were doing it, no one knows (my mum has been to a lot of sleep specialists to sort her night terrors out, but they have no idea why she does it). He said it was pretty weird... but I've never recorded myself, no. I think I'd be too embarassed to know what I'd say! My husband has held whole conversations with me, though - he thought I was awake, but I was actually sound asleep.

I also get sleep paralysis (Incubis / Succubus syndrome) when your mind is awake but your body is asleep. That's quite scary...


I had that once. Or maybe it was something else.

I woke up and tried getting out of bed but I just fell. Cuz my legs felt like rubber. My knees hadn't woken up yet. It didnt hurt though I fell full force. That was strange but I dont know if its the same thing.

Dingaling
08-07-06, 17:48
*jumps up and down* I have sleep paralysis!!! Been having it since I was six. It was scary at first but now it's just "Oh, I have you now." It's fun now, LoL.

They say if you wake up with sleep paralysis and then fall back asleep like that (in the paralysed state) you'll have a MUCH better chance at having a lucid dream. I've never done it myself because I always force myself to not sleep because it has that scary feeling of if I sleep I'll die. Altho' I have had lucid dreams at other times... err... dreams I'm sure you don't want to know about. *walks away calmly*

Andromeda66
08-07-06, 17:51
If you don't naturally do it, there are ways you can teach yourself to - for example if you learn to associate a certain thing (e.g. an action) with dreaming, it will help you become lucid while you are in one.

Like if say you end up associating your watch with dreaming, when in the dream, if you happen to notice the watch, your mind will realise you are dreaming.

It's hard to explain but I read a lot up on it a few years ago - such an interesting topic.

I've only been able to do it a couple of times, and each time it was amazing, with being able to fly etc. - but normally I have to fight myself from waking up and it never lasts very long.

Yeah its fantastic. I work with dream signs. I develop a habit of asking myself at least 21 times a day whether I'm dreaming or awake. This way I develop a habit of asking mysefl the same question in a dream and that helps me sneak a bit of conciousness in.

Flying rocks :jmp:

Dingaling: I would love to know about your dreams ...if you wanna talk about them that is.
*looks away calmly* :D

Legend of Lara
08-07-06, 17:51
Sometimes it happens. I created my own secret base where I lived with Dr. Eggman and we took over the world. :jmp:

Elysia
08-07-06, 17:52
*jumps up and down* I have sleep paralysis!!! Been having it since I was six. It was scary at first but now it's just "Oh, I have you now." It's fun now, LoL.

They say if you wake up with sleep paralysis and then fall back asleep like that (in the paralysed state) you'll have a MUCH better chance at having a lucid dream. I've never done it myself because I always force myself to not sleep because it has that scary feeling of if I sleep I'll die. Altho' I have had lucid dreams at other times... err... dreams I'm sure you don't want to know about. *walks away calmly*
Maybe that's why I lucid dream a lot then - because I also get sleep paralysis a lot!

And, err, I think I know the kinds of dreams you mean. One's that, at the time, are *great* fun. Then you wake up, quite, quite glad that no one has a window into your head! Ho hum.... :whi:

(:mis: ...But thinking back to them does give you reason to indulge in a few, secret, self satisfied smiles throughout the next day!! :D)

errevet
08-07-06, 17:56
Yes, i had this dream, where i knew that it was a dream.
And i liked it! I woke up in another dream, and than i woke up in the real world :p

Dingaling
08-07-06, 17:56
Maybe that's why I lucid dream a lot then - because I also get sleep paralysis a lot!

And, err, I think I know the kinds of dreams you mean. One's that, at the time, are *great* fun. Then you wake up, quite, quite glad that no one has a window into your head! Ho hum.... :whi:

(:mis: ...But thinking back to them does give you reason to indulge in a few, secret, self satisfied smiles throughout the next day!! :D)

I ditto you on the window into one's head and those little smiles :D. If people did have those windows they'd be quite shocked at a 15 year old knowing things like that :mis:

Now, next time I get sleep paralysis, I think I will just fall asleep in a paralysed state, LoL... :p

Legend of Lara
08-07-06, 18:01
Ahh... I remember when me and Eggman took Shadow prisoner and tortured him until he sang "Like a Virgin" in a thong. :D

Andromeda66
08-07-06, 18:03
This is a serious thread LoL ..The exit's that way.

Legend of Lara
08-07-06, 18:11
This is a serious thread LoL ..The exit's that way.

No really, that happened. Honest!

Andromeda66
08-07-06, 18:16
Yeah right :D

Legend of Lara
08-07-06, 18:18
Yeah right :D

I am a crazy person. Get used to it. ;)

Andromeda66
08-07-06, 18:19
Well join the club...but you got the prisoner to sing 'Like A Virgin' ???? ROTFL

Greenkey2
08-07-06, 19:07
I have had lucid dreams several times (they seem to be getting more common for some reason; must stop eating those pink mushrooms :pi:)

The most frequent one is when I can fly and control my direction etc. Those dreams always inspire me and leave me feeling great :D

Real Life Lara
08-07-06, 19:08
Yep, its happened quite a few times to me... Im still trying to 'train' myself so it can happen more often... I started the association technique a while back and that seems to help (I use a door, so if i see one in a dream Im more likely to realise Im dreaming if you get what I mean o_O) It's an amazing feeling :)

Twiin
08-07-06, 19:43
I try to think about interesting and exotic things before falling asleep - but in these instances, I usually don't remember any dreams. But, I do have very strange dreams, often I switch characters - at one point I am myself and in the other, I am someone completely different.
I remember one dream where I kicked out, and woke up whilst still kicking.
I also remember seeing an image of my father in the doorway in one of my 'short' dreams that I have, and then awoke to find him in the doorway! The only difference was that he was wearing different clothes in my dream and in reality.
Dream is a very fascinating, and sometimes odd, topic.

Mona Sax
08-07-06, 20:23
That happens to me quite often, but I can't always actively "direct" my dreams. When I'm having nightmares, it almost never works. I just keep imagining what the worst thing that could happen would be, and then it usually turns out that way - sort of like an interactive slasher flick. I've lost count of how many times I've tripped and fallen while trying to escape from a homicidal maniac. :D

Cypocalypse
11-07-06, 16:22
I've quite a considerable level of awareness in a number of my dreams.

Alive_and_Funky
11-07-06, 16:24
Once I knew I was dreaming, so I opened up my eyes to wake myself up.

Lara's Boy
11-07-06, 16:29
I have had a few, but I can't really remember most of them. I had one where for some reason I was crippled in some fashion. As the dream progressed, I decided I wanted to be crippled in a different way, so I just changed it, and changed all of the accomodations I needed.....it was very weird....

kewlkyle64
11-07-06, 16:33
I once had a dream where I realized it was a dream. So I realized I could do anything, and I jumped off a cliff, then I could fly. Then I got shot, It went through me. Dreams are just fictional, fortunately.

Andromeda66
11-07-06, 16:36
You didnt wake up JUST before you got shot?

kewlkyle64
11-07-06, 16:37
Nope. I didn't.

Andromeda66
11-07-06, 16:38
And you didnt feel like you were dead? (Am I sounding too harsh?)

kewlkyle64
11-07-06, 16:40
No your not sounding too harsh. It just went through me, like nothing happened.

Andromeda66
11-07-06, 16:44
So you felt alive....thats really unusual for me. I've always had dreams where I willingly jump off the top of the building and wake up JUST before hitting the ground. So as a kid, I believed that since you feel everythihng in your dreams, if you're not aware that you're dreaming, you can actually kill yourself in "real" life unless you wake up.

kewlkyle64
11-07-06, 16:47
Yeesh I'm 11 years old and I know that your brain won't die in a dream. You cannot die in your sleep, unless your in a coma.

PirateRose
11-07-06, 16:55
I've tried controling my dreams before. I was haveing this nightmare in which me and my friends were being chased by this horrific skeleten mummy. Then I took control, turned around and told my friends to keep running, adn despite my fears of skeletons and beat the crap out of that thing. XD Although I still am afraid of skeletons, but I haven't had many nightmares since.

edit: if any at all. XD

Andromeda66
11-07-06, 17:01
But were you aware that it was only a dream when you "took control" . See because now it makes sense to you because you're awake.

Virusbuster
11-07-06, 18:01
I've always wanted to have one (and maybe I have, I just didn't know)... :(

Andromeda66
11-07-06, 18:02
Its really simple once you get a kickstart. You could try by programming yourself to ask yourself whether you're dreaming at least 21 times a day. (That didnt work for me...I just conveyed my intention to be aware of being present in the dream when it occurs and holding on to this thought till I fall asleep)

BlackGrey
11-07-06, 18:04
I really want to try this, I must remember to do it tonight and give you the results of it tomorrow.

StarCroft:AOD
11-07-06, 18:06
Sometimes I dream that people wants to kill me in my dreams and is very real and scary:(

Andromeda66
11-07-06, 18:08
I really want to try this, I must remember to do it tonight and give you the results of it tomorrow.

All the best. Do tell me how the experience was, if you manage to get it the first time :wve:

STARcroft : You could try to lie (preferably with a straight spine => a harder bed) and empty your head of all thoughts before you fall asleep. That might help.
I know its scary but I believe nightmares are a sign of personal growth so Dont worry :hug: Stress on your intention to set it right and you will. :wve:

Lara Croft!
11-07-06, 18:36
Anyone else a lucid dreamer here?

This happens in two types of dreams I have

-Nightmares:I get so scared that I make myself realize that I'm in a dream.I can see me telling to myself "This is only a dream,I can do whatever want with it".I never remember what happens after that!This happens to me a lot!

-Romantic dreams : When the person I like in reality is ignoring me,in my dreams I do what I want with him and I know I control him.This has only happened twice and with the same person!

Spitfire
11-07-06, 18:52
ive had a few nightmares where i was very aware i was dreaming but couldnt do anything to wake myself, its somehow worse knowing its a dream and being aware but not being able to snap out of it.

Now usually i have some wild dreams but usually i realize something is way to odd to be real but cant do anything but go along with it.

Wolfguard
11-07-06, 21:23
Ever had dreams where you knew you were dreaming?
Occasionally. The first one I remember "controlling" happened about 20 years ago. I'd been watching the movie "Aliens" over and over again and !surprise! I had a dream that I was under attack on a dark alien infested planet. I was just about to get killed by one when suddenly, I stopped everything that was in motion, thought to myself "this isn't real," then let everything go BACK into motion again, except the person that was under attack was a colonial marine with a huge gun who was blasting the aliens, and I was the director of the alien "movie" sitting in a mobile chair with a massive yellow and black colored camera attached to it. Oh, it was awesome!

clairelovestlc
11-07-06, 21:23
sometimes i do, its really weird, in a good way, because the world is completly real but u can control it

v.dog
11-07-06, 22:12
Most of my dreams are semi-lucid, I can control most of the things I do, but not all.

A couple of other questions: have you ever woken up from a dream but it turns out you're still asleep? The usual giveaway is that the lights don't work, and the layout of your room is a little off.
I had one where I had to wake up three times before I was acutally concious. That was freaky.

My other question is do you usually dream in third person (you're watching yourself) or first person?
For me, it shifts from one to the other as the dream progresses and back again.

DragonDan
11-07-06, 23:25
Listen to the Queensryche song Silent Lucidity.

I've had those dreams before. It's fascinating.

"Are we the dream? Or are we the dreamer of a dream?"

kewlkyle64
12-07-06, 00:26
One time I dreamt I realized it was fake, so I could stop time. Really though your mind just says it's a dream, your brain won't let you control it. Thats why when something bad in slow-mo, like someone is beating you, you don't duck. In reality, you would duck. If you controled the dream, you would duck.

Winston_the_butler
12-07-06, 00:29
I've had lucid dreams, if that's what you call them. Although I usually yell at my little brother for waking me up and ruining them.