Meeeee. It was one of my favourite combat moves from the game. I really love Lara's progression through combat, I feel like they did an outstanding job in that department. It's so cool how Lara slowly learns new moves to survive so that by the end she is pretty much the ultimate killing machine.
I wouldn't say the other 2 games didn't do this as well, but it just feels really special in TR2013 for some reason. |
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But I think that removing it was a good idea, you can tell that Lara has really improved her combat skills and now she is a much more letal killer with more "sophisticated" methods :D |
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Not as iconic as the duals in the ending, though! I still can't believe that after that huge tease, they didn't let us use duals in Rise and Shadow... |
https://youtu.be/TBYhyZ0WSXQ here she talks more about Steph
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Why in the world would they cut character development from the game. I would've cared about them a lot more.
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I've been thinking of everything I used to want to be I'm in the middle of nothing And it's where I want to be Why at the bottom of everything I finally start to believe And I swear to God I'll find myself In the end |
Do you think the story would be even better if Lara was the only survivor at the end of the game?
I remember playing for the game for the first time and thinking the game would end like that once they killed off Alex. |
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I always thought that at least Sam should've died for sure, but everyone else too...? Sounds interesting, to be honest.
These sentences would also sound better from Lara's last journal entry after the end: "This island has taken everything from me. I'm going to make sure I take as much in return. All its secrets. It owes me that." The "everything" would be really everything. I can't help but imagining Rise's beginning part. Lara is climbing the mountain alone, but sometimes she would see Roth next to her, also climbing. Just like how they used to in the past. He would be like a ghostly figure visually, but actually there's no ghost there. It's like an entity was born from grief and remorse. Or just Lara's imagination. Anyhow, after a few words he just disappears. Everyone else could pop up like this throughout the game, one by one. But of course by the end of the story they would be gone forever, since Lara slowly learns how to let them go, and how to cope with things alone. Or something like that. A little bit dark, I have to admit. :whi: But I associate reboot Lara with dark themes, that's just how it is. |
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TR2013 has an undefinable adrenaline rush the other two can't match.
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It was definitely the most exciting story. Whenever I replay it, I usually end up breezing through it within 2 or 3 days. It makes it hard for you to put the controller down.
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In comparison, the final two games were toned down dramatically. They all but did away with the horror aspect and listened too much to the “torture porn” and violence whiners to the point where SOTTR had barely any gunfights. TR2013 was brilliant because they did what they wanted. The final two games suffered because they worried too much about what everyone else thought. And that, is what will probably kill any future reboots too. |
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In this game, You could breathe the freedom that was given to the team. ROTTR and SOTTR, despite some improvements, felt very weak. If they didn't worry too much about what people thought it would be better |
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I think we are not saying it is an horror game: this is a simplification.
It is a game with a strong dark tone that had got lost in following games. For me it was fantastic as it was a wonderful setting for the development of the character of reboot Lara. All that was happening to her was developing the character. |
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TR2013 was raw, the creative freedom shouted, the other two beacon the same freedom as Tr2013. I’m not sure how SOTTR did in sales so far, but TR2013 dominated it. |
Well, it was a creative risk that Shadow (almost) abandoned combat for puzzles. I'm grateful for that. :tmb:
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Yeah but only that.
on the storytelling TR2013 was much better IMHO |
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But the game took inspirations from some horror movies, The Descent being one of the more clearer references (it even pays homage to one of the movie scenes). And originally, the game was meant to have far more horror elements as shown in Ascension. There's definite horror influences in the game, and to flatly say it's not a horror game is an oversimplification (just like it can be argued that I did the same by calling it horror). There are very clear 'horror' elements in this game that did not exist in the sequels. |
^Yes, I loved that "dark" atmosphere;
In Shadow there were a couple of moments that could have felt like that, but the complete lack of blood ruined them... |
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I mean, is it real or is it just something fans would like? |
Well, TR'13 atmosphere was singular and quite done right but not really for my taste. Too much depressing weather and grey colors. I prefer Shadow contrast between bright moments and horror ones, reminds of Legend who wasn't afraid to give both light and dark moments
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This game had many iconic moments to be honest. There were so many moments of growth in this game. I could easily see her becoming the badass Lara Croft we all love.
I actually forgot about the kiss she gave one of her friends when she had to leave him behind. It reminded me of the hug Classic Lara gave Jean when she found him in the Citidel. |
Easter Egg?
Hey everyone! I'm new to the Tomb Raider series, and I just finished playing Crystal Dynamics's reboot game and I really enjoyed it!
There's been a mystery though that's been bugging me. I've done some research on it but I can't yield any results. At the end of the credits, there's a little message under "Recognition" that reads: John Lucien Fournier Sr., 'Did you try shooting the window?' We love you Dad; -Dustin & Johnny I'm really curious about what this means. Is this some sort of inside joke or an easter egg? I tried messaging some of the developers on it but I didn't hear back from any of them (obviously). In fact, there's only one guy named Dustin in the entire team. I do wonder if there's some kind of easter egg hidden in the game that would be unlocked by shooting a window. Granted, this game has been out for five years, I feel like every single window would've been shot by now :P . If any of you guys know what this means, let me know! |
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As for the quote, it was a reference to older tr games where you can break certain windows. It’s a cute little joke. |
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