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TippingWater 01-02-13 23:56

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Originally Posted by Spong (Post 6632005)
Thank God for that, you can only go down to this size :tea:

Indeed but add a diffretn color to it and it's hell!

Hey guys! Looks like their marketing campaign is finally is starting to get serious :D.
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Good job Crystal :). I don't think that it will be a fantastic Tomb Raider game, but it will certainly sell well if they continue promoting it like this :).

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Love2Raid 02-02-13 00:04

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That's awesome! You should make a new thread about it, people might not see it in here. XD
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Originally Posted by TippingWater (Post 6631999)
At least I did not use a small size for my font! :p I hate it when people do that! :(



Sure it's a game, but don't reboot the franchise and label it brutal and realistic, but apply such forging mechanics :p. I feel like there will be no challenge in this game except for failed qtes.

:p

I know, but it's the wrong kind of challenge, a false challenge even. It would be purely based on chance, and that's just annoying in games (imo). The challenge should be that you need proper skills and a good strategy: enemies moving fast (so you need good aiming skills), enemies actively searching for you (so you can't stay in one hiding place forever), that you need to plan your attack in advance (for example who you will take out in what way and in which order). So that when you just jump into the action and start shooting randomly at enemies, or you try to 'camp' in one place and try to kill them all from there, you will die.

Killercowz 02-02-13 00:10

That looks like fun! I won't win but I'll fun making something anyway.

TippingWater 02-02-13 00:12

Let's just hope that the enemy AI is that good, but I doubt it :o. I mean in the demo she set a guy on fire, but the guys on the other side did not even notice that :o.

Rai 02-02-13 00:13

It's amazing what people, even a petite woman can manage with adrenalin pumping.

Heartache 02-02-13 00:19

even if i would be a master with photos and stuff i just dont get an idea what to do in this contest xD

TippingWater 02-02-13 00:28

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Originally Posted by Rai (Post 6632039)
It's amazing what people, even a petite woman can manage with adrenalin pumping.

I doubt anyone would get so adrenaline pumped every 2 minutes :p.

MyRaider4Life 02-02-13 00:36

How is this an asset pack...

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Tonyrobinson 02-02-13 00:40

Say what you want about their campaign I feel that Crystal has done a lot to connect with their fans this time around. I know some old schoolers think they aree trying to disengage their original audience but in terms of fan involvement art, cosplay, fan films, podcasts, documentaries and apps have all been more encouraged and acknowledged and added a closer connection with the studio even know they do go silent for periods of times and don't release game information. :)

Peep Show 02-02-13 00:47

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Originally Posted by TippingWater (Post 6631655)
Here comes CD's savior and eternal defender..

Oh please you are one of the biggest nitpickers on this forum, I defend CD when it's necessary but even I've been mad at them before.

And like I said they never said it's a simulation, if they did i'd understand why you'd question their decisions but honestly too much realism takes away the fun and if a game isn't fun it's a fail in my eyes.

Lara would've been dead the moment she was stranded on the island (or earlier) in real life so yeah...

michaeldt 02-02-13 00:54

32 days, people! :jmp:

TippingWater 02-02-13 00:54

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Originally Posted by Peep Show (Post 6632073)
Oh please you are one of the biggest nitpickers on this forum..

I did not even know anyone noticed me :hug:. I always thought I was the invisible member, well I guess that I still am :). Why is not OK to nit-pick? I am paying for the game after-all...

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Originally Posted by Peep Show (Post 6632073)
OLara would've been dead the moment she was stranded on the island (or earlier) in real life so yeah...

True..

Peep Show 02-02-13 00:58

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Originally Posted by TippingWater (Post 6632079)
I did not even know anyone noticed me :hug:. I always thought I was the invisible member, well I guess that I still am :). Why is not OK to nit-pick? I am paying for the game after-all...



True..

I love how you still ignore the main point that I made twice, that proves enough.

Rai 02-02-13 00:59

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Originally Posted by TippingWater (Post 6632054)
I doubt anyone would get so adrenaline pumped every 2 minutes :p.

Well, she's got to keep going, don't she, gotta survive, right? Oh, and it is a game and all that :pi:. Mind you, I didn't realise she was wrestling and strangling guys every two minutes. That is overkill :p

To be honest, I think you pretty much argued your own answer fairly adequately to your 'realism' argument with this post, and yahoo answers quote If CD were aware of this, then they probably felt it wasn't beyond the realms of believability to have Lara choking/strangling a big tough scavenger, especially if she's also using a tool/weapon to help her. I don't think the move is exactly obligatory either, so you don't have to make [poor little] Lara perform it :p.

Alister's_Brain 02-02-13 01:08

Breaking necks with a bow is pretty easy if you're intention is strong enough.

Trust me, I've done it before :mis:









J/k:pi:

TippingWater 02-02-13 02:01

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Originally Posted by Rai (Post 6632084)
I don't think the move is exactly obligatory either, so you don't have to make [poor little] Lara perform it :p.

Hmm, but it's easier to get rid of them that way :p.

Stevo505 02-02-13 02:03

I can't wait to stab people in the throat with arrows :D

Spong 02-02-13 02:10

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Originally Posted by Stevo505 (Post 6632148)
I can't wait to stab people in the throat with arrows :D

*calls the police*

Shark_Blade 02-02-13 02:23

:vlol:

NikkySan 02-02-13 02:40

I am excited for this, but I'm disappointed Lara's pistols won't be in it. :( Maybe they'll get added in as DLC?

Alister's_Brain 02-02-13 02:44

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Originally Posted by NikkySan (Post 6632179)
I am excited for this, but I'm disappointed Lara's pistols won't be in it. :( Maybe they'll get added in as DLC?

It's not been totally confirmed if they are in or not ;)




It'll probably be a weapon part upgrade for the pistol.

davidmeyer000 02-02-13 03:51

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Originally Posted by Alister's_Brain (Post 6632184)
It's not been totally confirmed if they are in or not ;)




It'll probably be a weapon part upgrade for the pistol.

I highly doubt that they won't be in it. They know how upset everyone was when they weren't in AOD.

Stevo505 02-02-13 06:10

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Originally Posted by Spong (Post 6632151)
*calls the police*

But I don't mean to hurt anyone... just violently puncture their windpipe with my extremely sharp arrow. :p

Shadowmask 02-02-13 08:20

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Originally Posted by Alister's_Brain (Post 6632094)
Breaking necks with a bow is pretty easy if you're intention is strong enough.

Trust me, I've done it before :mis:

J/k:pi:

Awesome post. Made me laugh.

I can't think of any other games where a bow is used in this manner. As I said in my preview - "tenacious explorer to expert killer in the blink of an eye" - remembering this is a video game not real life.

TRItheMaster 02-02-13 09:18

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Originally Posted by Alister's_Brain (Post 6632094)
Breaking necks with a bow is pretty easy if you're intention is strong enough.

Trust me, I've done it before :mis:









J/k:pi:


I will say, it is pretty easy. Especially when someone is off guard, I've tried before and nearly did it. I stopped after the first snap I heard though.

Stevo505 02-02-13 10:53

Has anyone wondered about the birds that are present pretty much everywhere? I'm talking about the black birds (crows?) that fly around in flocks. They seem to appear whenever something important happens during the game, and they were also present in concept art. I wonder if they have any significance, perhaps metaphorically.

Shark_Blade 02-02-13 11:05

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Originally Posted by Stevo505 (Post 6632392)
Has anyone wondered about the birds that are present pretty much everywhere? I'm talking about the black birds (crows?) that fly around in flocks. They seem to appear whenever something important happens during the game, and they were also present in concept art. I wonder if they have any significance, perhaps metaphorically.

A bit of fresh air will do you good.

trfanX34 02-02-13 12:02

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Originally Posted by TRItheMaster (Post 6632341)
I will say, it is pretty easy. Especially when someone is off guard, I've tried before and nearly did it. I stopped after the first snap I heard though.

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lcroft_lc 02-02-13 12:30

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Originally Posted by Shark_Blade (Post 6632403)
A bit of fresh air will do you good.

:vlol:

Lukass 02-02-13 12:51

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Originally Posted by Shark_Blade (Post 6632403)
A bit of fresh air will do you good.

:vlol:

LNSNHGTDS 02-02-13 13:18

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Originally Posted by TippingWater (Post 6631556)
Am I the only one that finds Lara's stealth kills too unrealistic? How can such a petite lady put down such big guys? This sounds so naughty, but it didn't in my head :o. How can she break their neck when she's half their size and basically has no muscle definition? :o

Which is why I think that changing Lara from tall to short was a stupid move. I mean why would she be short anyway?

Small women can take out larger enemies (Nina and Anna from Tekken are assassins and they are shorter from TReboot Lara) so long they are experienced which Lara certainly isn't, which leads me to believe (I almost typed beliebe :vlol: ) that as the game progresses she'll be able to execute stealth attacks and others tasks a lot easier ( "I feel stronga now!" ) :tmb: .

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Originally Posted by NikkySan (Post 6632179)
I am excited for this, but I'm disappointed Lara's pistols won't be in it. :( Maybe they'll get added in as DLC?

Karl has lied a lot about many stuff, I'm almost sure that they will be in the game :p !

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Originally Posted by Stevo505 (Post 6632392)
Has anyone wondered about the birds that are present pretty much everywhere? I'm talking about the black birds (crows?) that fly around in flocks. They seem to appear whenever something important happens during the game, and they were also present in concept art. I wonder if they have any significance, perhaps metaphorically.

Crows are rally good spies :pi: ... (no kidding)

Rai 02-02-13 13:28

I object to Lara being described as short! :mad: Accodring to Brian Horton who designed her (for this game at any rate), she's 5'6 Five foot six inches. That is not short, it is above average in UK. As a fellow 5'6er I have a right to claim my almost tallness!

[/insecure height rant :p] Erm...back on topic...:pi:

LNSNHGTDS 02-02-13 13:32

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Originally Posted by Rai (Post 6632520)
I object to Lara being described as short! :mad: Accodring to Brian Horton who designed her (for this game at any rate), she's 5'6 Five foot six inches. That is not short, it is above average in UK. As a fellow 5'6er I have a right to claim my almost tallness!

[/insecure height rant :p] Erm...back on topic...:pi:

But she is :p . I don't know about UK but 1.68 is generally considered short. 1.70 - 1.75 (TRilogy Lara's height) cm is average and 1.76 - 1.80+ (Classic and AoD Lara's height) is tall. 1.80 m was a bit too much but 1.75 was almost tall and a rather good height for a woman, why did they change it?! ... oh, right, so that she looks more vulnerable (a.k.a. bull****) :rolleyes: ...

ItIsOkBro 02-02-13 13:37

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Originally Posted by LNSNHGTDS (Post 6632527)
But she is :p . I don't know about UK but 1.68 is generally considered short. 1.70 - 1.75 (TRilogy Lara's height) cm is average and 1.76 - 1.80+ (Classic and AoD Lara's height) is tall. 1.80 m was a bit too much but 1.75 was almost tall and a rather good height for a woman, why did they change it?! ... oh, right, so that she looks more vulnerable (a.k.a. bull****) :rolleyes: ...

This is true if Lara was a man

LNSNHGTDS 02-02-13 13:42

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Originally Posted by ItIsOkBro (Post 6632532)
This is true if Lara was a man

Actually no, I might exagerate a bit but 1.68 is definately short compared to her previous flawless 1.75 and no, 1.75 is definately NOT considered tall for men, it's average o_O ...!

To be honest, if she was 1.72 I'd be perfectly fine with it but 1.68 is not enough D: !

ItIsOkBro 02-02-13 13:49

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Originally Posted by LNSNHGTDS (Post 6632538)
Actually no, I might exagerate a bit but 1.68 is definately short compared to her previous flawless 1.75 and no, 1.75 is definately NOT considered tall for men, it's average o_O ...!

To be honest, if she was 1.72 I'd be perfectly fine with it but 1.68 is not enough D: !

Well of course above average is short compared to tall and no one said 1.75 is tall for men :pi:

January_Snow* 02-02-13 13:49

I agree 168 is short, and being that short is ridiculous considering that she takes out mercenaries double her hight and weight. It would be ok if she was trained for combat, but isn't she suppoused to be helpless and innocent in this one?

TippingWater 02-02-13 13:49

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Originally Posted by LNSNHGTDS (Post 6632527)
But she is :p . I don't know about UK but 1.68 is generally considered short. 1.70 - 1.75 (TRilogy Lara's height) cm is average and 1.76 - 1.80+ (Classic and AoD Lara's height) is tall. 1.80 m was a bit too much but 1.75 was almost tall and a rather good height for a woman, why did they change it?! ... oh, right, so that she looks more vulnerable (a.k.a. bull****) :rolleyes: ...

I don't think that in the classics she was supposed to be 1.80, but I do remember reading somewhere that Lara in AoD was indeed 1.80. That would be too tall to be honest. Reboot Lara has the perfect everything, even the perfect height, but it's just that she performs these finishers as if she was a pro. It diminishes the mood of the game for me. It's like the scavengers should be afraid of her and not the other hand. I would be totally fine with this, if she was experienced, well if she was "Teflon Lara"... But as I have said, she looks to me more Teflon than ever.. but in the shell of an apparent weakling.

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Originally Posted by ItIsOkBro (Post 6632532)
This is true if Lara was a man

:vlol:

LNSNHGTDS 02-02-13 13:58

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Originally Posted by ItIsOkBro (Post 6632548)
Well of course above average is short compared to tall and no one said 1.75 is tall for men :pi:

Errr, you did! In your post in respponse to my "...but 1.75 was almost tall and a rather good height for a woman..." you replied with "That is true if Lara was a man" ...!

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Originally Posted by January_Snow* (Post 6632549)
I agree 168 is short, and being that short is ridiculous considering that she takes out mercenaries double her hight and weight. It would be ok if she was trained for combat, but isn't she suppoused to be helpless and innocent in this one?

Just like I said! And they can't change it now D: ...!

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Originally Posted by TippingWater (Post 6632551)
I don't think that in the classics she was supposed to be 1.80, but I do remember reading somewhere that Lara in AoD was indeed 1.80. That would be too tall to be honest. Reboot Lara has the perfect everything, even the perfect height, but it's just that she performs these finishers as if she was a pro. It diminishes the mood of the game for me. It's like the scavengers should be afraid of her and not the other hand. I would be totally fine with this, if she was experienced, well if she was "Teflon Lara"... But as I have said, she looks to me more Teflon than ever..

She was, her height was 1.80 in the Classics and like you said she was 1.80 in AoD too, AoD is closely connected with Last Revelation and Chronicles (two classics) , why would they randomly change her height :p ? (well CD later did that, twice, but TRilogy was a recreation of Lara and TReboot is a reboot so... ) but 1.80 was too tall indeed and 1.75 was flawless.

I still dislike her current height more than anythi... no, wait, more than many things but not anything! , and the whole point was for Lara to look inferior to the scavengers yet she slaughters them like a pro... in my opinion Crystal just needed an exuse for the height change which would later on defy anyway -_- ...

Rai 02-02-13 14:01

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Originally Posted by January_Snow* (Post 6632549)
I agree 168 is short, and being that short is ridiculous considering that she takes out mercenaries double her hight and weight. It would be ok if she was trained for combat, but isn't she suppoused to be helpless and innocent in this one?

I think she's meant to be inexperienced in the ways of tomb raiding/adventuring. She's had some training in archery and gymnastics, so she's possibly built up some strength in these activities. She's still athletic, so she's not entirely helpless and innocent. Also, considering she's worked in a bar (the Nine Bells or something), she's possibly had to control unruly customers, maybe even physically subdue them?

I still feel that the 'finishers' we've seen have been taken out of context in the videos, somewhat. It may seem unealistic, but it's not something I'm going to be too worried about as I play.


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