Or, better yet, why bother having health at all? Just make Lara invincible :tmb:

Two can play the 'let's take it to a silly extreme' game :p

It's not impossible, so they can do it for those who are so desperate asking for it. I for one loved the regeneration more than the medi-packs and do not want them back TBQH.

Medipacks aren't necessarily more realistic than autoregenerating health.

"Oops I broke both of my legs falling, but no problem, because I've got invisible bandages that I don't even need to put on! Just stare at the medipack, say "ah!" And you can do crazy acrobatics again!"


If anything, regenerating health is more realistic. Lara is hurt but she heals after some time, like any person would, just that at a much faster rate.

And this is coming from a person who would like having medipacks back. Maybe they could be added in addition to autoregenerating health.

You know what if they could accommodate a healing system that just uses in game visual ques. Like visual damage, Lara would start limping and bleeding until you bandage. And it would take time to do, so no insta health from the 5 healthpacks you're carrying to turn you into a bullet sponge. I would be all for it.

But no bars or numeric values in front of my eyes. I think it does good things for the feel of this game not to have that.

If you don't want a HUD or a Health Bar or Medi-Packs then please go and lock yourself in a cupboard and don't come out until you realize what you've just said.

Thank you.

^Iv'e been locked in a closet long enough to now try and lock myself in a cupboard...
Like in Read Dead Redemption? hmm... that sounds like a better idea.

What if you realize what you said as you said it because you think it's the best way to go... :whi:

Should we remove the ammo counter, based on the same logic, because it would be more realistic to have a rough idea of how much you've picked up?

I like the fact that there was nothing obscuring the actual game play. Nothing. It was just Lara and the environment. That was all. I can't go back to anything else.

Then go in to the cupboard for the fun of it :)!

No, i think they should bring back health packs and a health bar :).

Is this where you say "you are not a real gamer like moi"?

Yes.

Describe what 'normal' is, an I'll tell you :) lol.

Sorry but if it's going for realism then medipacks or a first aid kit surely should be in the game.

So if you were to play any other game that had HUD, you'd feel weird in some way, like it was an annoyance?

What a bizarre reason. Different things work in different games. The health bar and medipacks should work in TR.

God some people are just over obsessed with realism.... the regenerating health is fine... gosh...

Exactly :)

Let's face it. Med kits were always an annoyance. Take Guardian of Light for example, in Co-op, you and your partner fight for health. If you die, you are restored with just 1/4 of your health.

I couldn't focus because I everything was about not dying and keeping the health bar up. Without the health bar, you know what you're doing wrong so as to not die, then you recover and change tactics.

Only because CD have said they want to make TR as real as possible :rolleyes:

You're saying no Medi-P because of one game? Sorry, i think they worked well in LAU. Press the UP button on the D-pad, didn't need you to focus on it.

Which definition do you like best? :)

I'm fond of: free from any mental disorder; sane.

Hmm, this is getting off topic but someone who has a metal disorder is still 'normal' in there own little way.
None is ever normal :).

You can count ammo but not how much life you have left.

They're both as unrealistic as each other, though I'd say health packs are slightly more plausible, but that's not why I prefer them. I prefer them because it's adds strategy and an extra element of the need to explore and depth of keeping Lara alive.
Keeping your avatar alive has and will (hopefully) always be a part of gaming, but to have it diluted so much in a game that's marketed as a survival game is quite shocking tbh.

What's a metal disorder? :)

A mental disorder varies from different types. Anyway, this is off topic lol.

^He's taking the piss out of your typo.Someone who can't improvise and figure out when a tiny error has been made. :)

What typo? :confused:

:vlol:

Right.... Ok, I didn't realize that.

Y'all know what I mean tho, so it's not like its a huge thing.

Don't you just hate when you're 'all up on' an enemy and then Lara just stops to reload?

I just jump around like a monkey and say, "Aw COME ON!!"

A mental typo.

jk

I feel like that's something easily toggled in the options..

That's very Call of Duty'ish. :o

Reminds me of the life/instinct bar around the radar in Hitman: Absolution. I like it.

I don't think the healthbar will ever come back TBH.
And it might sounds quite strange, but I think for the better. The game is harder this way. If you have a healthbar, you can just keep healing yourself for a very long time.

You can only heal if you have the supplies. If you have regen though, you can just stand around a corner for ten seconds and let your health refill. You can play a game like a complete retard, take every hit you possibly can, but as long as there's somewhere to stand where the bullets can't get you, you'll be fine in a jiffy and it'll be like nothing ever happened.

With regen, all you have to rely on is a bit of breathing space, and seeing as games these days are written for lightweights, breathing space is everywhere and full health is always attainable within moments if you just stand there. That's right, you're effectively rewarded with more health and extended play for literally doing nothing. I fail to see how that makes anything harder.

IMO, the only way regen would be any good is if it was a lot slower. I'd much prefer a regen where it took upwards of half an hour to replenish health to 100% (from near zero). But that's far too difficult for today's gamers, so it won't happen.

Healthbar discussion is still going on? :p i agree with tomee TBH it's harder and better like it is now. A new health system based on good o'l medi packs... i do not want...

Neither do I. Health bar is something old and frustrating nowadays. I think it shouldn't go back, or at least if it does, it should have some sort of limitation or innovation.

Adding a healthbar could add an additional strategic element to the game. Besides, it would only make sense, seeing as all of the previous Tomb Raider games had a healthbar.

I guess I don't want the old "small medipack replaces 25% health instantly" mechanic, but something more advanced than that. Something a bit different. Say, Lara gets a painful skin infection which means that bandages have a weaker effect on health generation, or that she recovers slower (flinches for longer) after being hit at the point of infection (e.g. her right ankle) or something kinky like that.

Basically, having regenerating health does not fit a TR game IMO. Lara is a human being who gets hurt and stays hurt for some time after something/someone hurts her; she's not wearing Halo armour FCOL. :p

That actually sounds quite interesting.
Let's say, we have bandages. It heals X%, but it takes time to apply so Lara can't do that in combat. Then there are pills which restore X% of health over 1-2 minutes, it's much slower, but Lara can use them during combat.
That would be pretty cool. And maybe we could have a much slower auto regen.

That sounds quite advanced and dynamic.

How many times did you actually run out of medikits in any of the TR games?
Quite frankly, that never happened to me.
http://www.tombraiderforums.com/show...56#post5595756
I know this was a no scratch (also meaning no medipacks) playthrough, but I usually end up using very few medipacks.

Which is something that you barely could do in TOMB RAIDER. There were melee guys and molotov guys. You had to be on your feet and constantly move around. You couldn't just crouch behind some cover.

Half an hour? That would be a bit excessive don't you think? A few minutes sounds reasonable. But even that would be pointless. People would just wait till Lara heals and half of the game would be just standing in a place waiting for Lara to heal. As exciting as watching paint dry.

We don't have any more patience. It seemed like forever.

Frustrating parts in this game: Watching Lara climb over those walls as she entered a new set. Waiting for Lara to walk while she was on the walkie talkie. Wading through water. Walking through dark tombs.

I become really impatient during those moments.

Those were there so that you don't get a loading screen. I think that's fairly reasonable.