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LNSNHGTDS 23-05-13 16:41

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Originally Posted by spyrostr (Post 6796652)
ikr? :( i dont know what's happening .... Lara and Tomb Raider is still here and more successful than ever
this is the only thing that matters...

all the rest is like :random trfmember : oh some people hate the game i'll follow like a sheep and i'll raise my posts number

Exactly! And it's not even worthy of falling under the TRF drama category...

Gregori 23-05-13 16:42

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Originally Posted by spyrostr (Post 6796652)
ikr? :( i dont know what's happening .... Lara and Tomb Raider is still here and more successful than ever
this is the only thing that matters...

all the rest is like :random trfmember : oh some people hate the game i'll follow like a sheep and i'll raise my posts number

Lara and Tomb Raider in name only. There hasn't been a real Tomb Raider with Lara Croft since 2003

larafan25 23-05-13 16:43

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Originally Posted by Gregori (Post 6796649)
She was :'( all the time through. Old Lara wouldn't have done that

Do we really know that though? We can only assume, really. But both classic Lara and reboot Lara experience trauma that effects their character and intends to provoke a change in lifestyle or perspective.

I try looking at Lara's strength through 2 dimensions.

The first dimension is pre-truamatic experience. Where she is still a strong character, she climbs mountains in her spare time, apparently. For the thrill maybe? (This is actually a reboot thing). And that in itself is bad ass, for a "civilian". These experiences incite thrill and danger, but it's not live or die, it's not as severe as the truama experience each Lara encounters.

Then of course there is the strength that comes through the real truamatic experience, and just because this experience tests and breaks Lara, it doesn't mean she wasn't a strong person to begin with. She's brave, she's smart, she's strong, but she has a limit prior to being exposed to the worst.

It could have been the same for classic Lara. Who was she prior to surviving the plane wreck?

People often use young Lara from TR4 and TR5 as a gauge for how fearless, and how much of "herself" was already there when she was young, prior to the plane crash. But I still think they are 2 different dimensions. No doubt there is real danger involved in what young Lara experienced, however the tone never tried to convey what the reboot does.

Of course you can accept that, if your Lara is more of a "cartoon" (for lack of a better word) then she was brave, and the same person in the young Lara levels.

But if that is not what you expect from your Lara, that she does grow and isn't as simplistic, then shouldn't this new portrayal of Lara be starting some fire?

spyrostr 23-05-13 16:48

has anyone seen this?


Gregori 23-05-13 16:51

Should be firing...

skylark1121 23-05-13 16:53

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Originally Posted by Spong (Post 6796629)
Tomb Raider may or may not be dead. I could tell you which, but it's a secret and I'd have to kill you all afterwards :pi:

:vlol:

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Originally Posted by Gregori (Post 6796642)
She can't even protect herself. Too busy whimpering

What do you mean? :confused: Are we talking about the same Lara who pulled a spike out of her side, bit a guy's ear off, shot him in the face, walked through a pool of blood, etc, etc.
She did indeed whimper, but she also protected herself.

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Originally Posted by Gregori (Post 6796649)
She was :'( all the time through. Old Lara wouldn't have done that

And that's why old Lara was such a 2d character. People do have emotions, and anybody who was put into the situation that Lara had to go through would be an emotional wreck, but I guess there are people who don't like for games or certain characters to actually express them....

Gregori 23-05-13 16:56

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Originally Posted by skylark1121 (Post 6796665)



And that's why old Lara was such a 2d character. People do have emotions, and anybody who was put into the situation that Lara had to go through would be an emotional wreck, but I guess there are people who don't like for games or certain characters to actually express them....

Its a cookie cutter hollywood way to add so called "emotions" to the character. I can imagine them doing this to a perfectly good character like indiana jones and i shudder. It cliched version of emotions and humanity

larafan25 23-05-13 16:58

But experiences do change people, and this experience, this landmark in Lara's origins has always existed, since the beginning as far as I've known.

Spong 23-05-13 17:01

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Originally Posted by larafan25 (Post 6796679)
...this landmark in Lara's origins has always existed, since the beginning as far as I've known.

Since the reboot, it's the only experience that exists.

skylark1121 23-05-13 17:05

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Originally Posted by Gregori (Post 6796661)
Should, be firing...

I wouldn't know why they should be firing the level designers. I thought it was the best level design TR has seen in years....

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Originally Posted by Gregori (Post 6796673)
It cliched version of emotions and humanity

Hm. This seems really vague, and it seems like more of an attempt to say something bad about the game than to actually provide a good counterpoint? I mean, if you feel that way, back it up with something from the game that gave you that feeling... so it seems less vague, you know? :p

larafan25 23-05-13 17:06

^I thought the level design was kind of...non-existent in some parts, or so simple and to the point.

Of course there were cool nooks, and the design of the events was incredibly well done.

But I guess I just expect...more interior exploration.

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Originally Posted by Spong (Post 6796683)
Since the reboot, it's the only experience that exists.

That we've played.

Y'all don't know what went down that night in Brighton.

Anyways, I assume Lara's just going to become more enjoyable for those who can't stand to see her wimper.

CD seem to want to portray her as a brutal action hero, or something like that.

However that in itself isn't equal to classic Lara bad assery, simply because she's brutal and capable. There's more skill and charm to it than that. But whatevsiez.

Gregori 23-05-13 17:07

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Originally Posted by skylark1121 (Post 6796686)
I wouldn't know why they should be firing the level designers. I thought it was the best level design TR has seen in years....

Oh you mean moving in straight lines were you can mash buttons and don't have to do any exploration....



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Hm. This seems really vague, and it seems like more of an attempt to say something bad about the game than to actually provide a good counterpoint? I mean, if you feel that way, back it up with something from the game that gave you that feeling... so it seems less vague, you know? :p
To make her human they have given her no distinct identity. She is a cookie cutter human being. I don't really care about her

lcroft_lc 23-05-13 17:07

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Originally Posted by larafan25 (Post 6796689)
That we've played.

Y'all don't know what went down that night in Brighton.

Anyways, I assume Lara's just going to become more enjoyable for those who can't stand to see her wimper.

CD seem to want to portray her as a brutal action hero, or something like that.

However that in itself isn't equal to classic Lara bad assery, simply because she's brutal and capable. There's more skill and charm to it than that. But whatevsiez.

Wut! When did you back? :D

Spong 23-05-13 17:11

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Originally Posted by larafan25 (Post 6796689)
Y'all don't know what went down that night in Brighton.

Brighton is a ****hole, and no one wants to know how Lara earns her money as a crack whore.

skylark1121 23-05-13 17:13

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Originally Posted by Gregori (Post 6796692)
Oh you mean moving in straight lines were you can mash buttons and don't have to do any exploration....

So what exactly did you do in the Mountain Village, Shanty Town, and Shipwreck beach?

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To make her human they have given her no distinct identity.
Well, if they've brought new fans to series, which they have, they must have done something to give her some sort of distinct identity.
Or maybe there was good level design. Something was good about this game, it has done well.

Ardent Pizza 23-05-13 17:14

I utterly confused, to be honest.

I can't decide if CD should follow the path of action aesthetics, character exploration and stereotyped Hollywood glamour or the aspect of concentrating on open world exploration, platforming , puzzle solving and freedom.

I actually want them to focus on both aspects but we just had too much character exploration in the reboot. I want more freedom.

The next game.

Well, the next game has to be more about gameplay and levels and not about Lara.

larafan25 23-05-13 17:14

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Originally Posted by Spong (Post 6796698)
Brighton is a ****hole, and no one wants to know how Lara earns her money as a crack whore.

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/g...ps5e6a0b80.gif

LNSNHGTDS 23-05-13 17:15

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Originally Posted by larafan25 (Post 6796710)

:vlol:

Now that just "fixed" the thread!

Ardent Pizza 23-05-13 17:17

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Originally Posted by larafan25 (Post 6796710)

Dear lawd, this is such a digusting gif.

No.

Just awful.

skylark1121 23-05-13 17:18

:vlol: :vlol:

/dead

larafan25 23-05-13 17:18

That's a sparkly chicken nugget in her hand.

skylark1121 23-05-13 17:19

Of course it is. :pi:

Gregori 23-05-13 17:20

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Originally Posted by skylark1121 (Post 6796707)
So what exactly did you do in the Mountain Village, Shanty Town, and Shipwreck beach?

Move from one predictable area to the next with shiny highlights and more or less linear gameplay.


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Well, if they've brought new fans to series, which they have, they must have done something to give her some sort of distinct identity.
Or maybe there was good level design. Something was good about this game, it has done well.
The level design was average really

Spong 23-05-13 17:20

I'm genuinely gutted that GIF isn't oversized.

klona 23-05-13 17:21

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Originally Posted by larafan25 (Post 6796720)
That's a sparkly chicken nugget in her hand.

Can I have it? :D

tomee 23-05-13 17:21

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Originally Posted by Spong (Post 6796698)
Brighton is a ****hole, and no one wants to know how Lara earns her money as a crack whore.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.n...56636787_n.jpg

klona 23-05-13 17:23

^ HOOO mai GODT.
NOT THAT AGAIN.
*ded*

larafan25 23-05-13 17:23

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Originally Posted by klona (Post 6796728)
Can I have it? :D

Yeah I guess.

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Originally Posted by tomee (Post 6796731)

Le Serpent Rouge!? D:

*jump ded elelde JUMP deldeleeedee jump*

LNSNHGTDS 23-05-13 17:27

How did the Brighton thing came up :p ? Wasn't Lara from Surrey? And is it really that bad in Brighton xD?

Spong 23-05-13 17:29

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Originally Posted by LNSNHGTDS (Post 6796740)
And is it really that bad in Brighton xD?

I've been there a couple of times, not recently though. It's rubbish, full of archaeology students funding their drug habits with prostitution.

LNSNHGTDS 23-05-13 17:30

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Originally Posted by Spong (Post 6796745)
I've been there a couple of times, not recently though. It's rubbish, full of archaeology students funding their drug habits with prostitution.

Intresting... I guess :p ?

skylark1121 23-05-13 17:31

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Originally Posted by Gregori (Post 6796725)
The level design was average really

Okay, well then maybe you can explain to me how they kept the max view distance ratio of their HQ distance textures at such a high level without slower fps and fading? Or maybe you can explain how they were able to change Lara's game mode and animation set (similar to how they did with Lara going from walking, to sliding down the river, to parachute scene) without loading screens, because, as an aspiring level designer, I've been curious to know. :)

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Originally Posted by tomee (Post 6796731)
[IMG]https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/428696_471587099578394_956636787_n.jpg[IMG]

:vlol:

larafan25 23-05-13 17:31

^Guurl, they can do that stuff with the flick of a wand, we can't just script things in the LE like they can. TBH.

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Originally Posted by LNSNHGTDS (Post 6796740)
How did the Brighton thing came up :p ? Wasn't Lara from Surrey? And is it really that bad in Brighton xD?

In the original cutscene where Lara meets up with Sam and Mathias, Lara reminds Sam of "that night in Brighton" in which perhaps a similar scenario with a creepy man ensued and they needed to escape. Sam maybe not being the best judge of character.

Alternatively it was a lot of fun and Lesbiany and was made into a movie:

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/g...ps20a72040.png

skylark1121 23-05-13 17:33

Lara looks so innocent, and Sam looks all devious and stuff. ^:pi:

:vlol:

LNSNHGTDS 23-05-13 17:33

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Originally Posted by larafan25 (Post 6796749)
In the original cutscene where Lara meets up with Sam and Mathias, Lara reminds Sam of "that night in Brighton" in which perhaps a similar scenario with a creepy man ensued and they needed to escape. Sam maybe not being the best judge of character.

Alternatively it was a lot of fun and Lesbiany and was made into a movie:

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/g...ps20a72040.png

:vlol: I see.

Well, judging from Sam's journals they had "fun" in many places, ranging from Bulgaria to mountains. Brighton might have been one of those places :p !

larafan25 23-05-13 17:35

Honestly.

This is bad to say, and I shouldn't. No no. But I will.

I'D LOOOOVE to see an even...slightly younger Lara, maybe 20 (lol) with Sam, in some exotic city, just messing around, sneaking out of a balcony, something that plays sort of like the flashback level in Uncharted 3. It would be so awesome. I wanna see them get into trouble and be mischievous. It could be like an Olsen Twins movie.

But no. This is bad. >_>

skylark1121 23-05-13 17:38

^ Tomb Raider meets The Olsen Twins. D:

...

...

[insert crazy gif here, tbh] :D

SpyrosMonster 23-05-13 18:00

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Originally Posted by larafan25 (Post 6796749)

This one reminds me of the family guy characters! D:

EscondeR 23-05-13 18:07

Oh, yeah, all that innuendo is great... and Lara ALMOST showing underboob (ERMAHGERD!!!11!1111) in TRC FMV is worth crucifixion :tmb:

[/tons of sarcasm]

tomee 23-05-13 18:12

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Originally Posted by EscondeR (Post 6796790)
Oh, yeah, all that innuendo is great... and Lara ALMOST showing underboob (ERMAHGERD!!!11!1111) in TRC FMV is worth crucifixion :tmb:

[/tons of sarcasm]

She was underage. That alone should be a reason to avoid anything sexual.


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