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larafan25 05-02-12 00:35

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Originally Posted by Stevo505 (Post 5956742)
Maybe the game will be super duper hard (but less difficult than TR3..) :D

I don't even want it to be super hard, I just want lots of gameplay.

When I need to go somewhere, I want it to be far away and I want the path to be treacherous with lots of fun and complex platforming.

When I enter a tomb, I want it to be dark, I want to carry a light. I want to feel afraid of stuff and I want complex and mind-boggling problems to solve.

I want to be in those tombs for what seems like days. Once I enter I want to wonder how far it goes, I want to look back and already miss the fresh outside air.

When in combat situations I don't want to feel like I have the upper hand, I want to have to use my items and be strategic.

Lots and lots of this.

Mikky 05-02-12 00:36

I still can imagine how so many people will be complaining about how easy SI will make the game, me included. CD think that they're putting it in to "help" the player but I can't imagine that the puzzles or the game itself is going to be so difficult that we will actually need to use it.
It's the same thing with Lara's RAD binoculars in TRL and the hint system in TRU. Not once did I actually "need" to use them. I guess it's to do with CD's weird obsession about making TRs more appealing to "general" gamers - they think their games are too difficult for non-fans so they put silly gimmicks in the game to help them. No help gimmick was put in TRA (except maybe the journal, but that was nothing really and it didn't outright tell you what to do, like in TRU) and that was the hardest of the 3, which is kinda ironic. I actually preferred that there was no help system - it made the game much more enjoyable and challenging.

I really wish they would just get rid of this Survival Instinct. I don't care if it's optional or not, unless it's absolutely needed to use in the game, I don't see the point in having it. Let us do the thinking and we'll no doubt enjoy it more.

skylark1121 05-02-12 00:36

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Originally Posted by larafan25 (Post 5956734)
Yes, but I still don't enjoy the principle of the fact that it's included in the game.

If you are including a hint system, then make the game wortheeeeeyyyyyy!

And maybe it will be!! ^^

Spong 05-02-12 00:39

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Originally Posted by Mikky (Post 5956764)
I really wish they would just get rid of this Survival Instinct. I don't care if it's optional or not, unless it's absolutely needed to use in the game, I don't see the point in having it. Let us do the thinking and we'll no doubt enjoy it more.

:yah:

larafan25 05-02-12 00:41

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Originally Posted by Mikky (Post 5956764)
I still can imagine how so many people will be complaining about how easy SI will make the game, me included. CD think that they're putting it in to "help" the player but I can't imagine that the puzzles or the game itself is going to be so difficult that we will actually need to use it.
It's the same thing with Lara's RAD binoculars in TRL and the hint system in TRU. Not once did I actually "need" to use them. I guess it's to do with CD's weird obsession about making TRs more appealing to "general" gamers - they think their games are too difficult for non-fans so they put silly gimmicks in the game to help them. No help gimmick was put in TRA (except maybe the journal, but that was nothing really and it didn't outright tell you what to do, like in TRU) and that was the hardest of the 3, which is kinda ironic. I actually preferred that there was no help system - it made the game much more enjoyable and challenging.

I really wish they would just get rid of this Survival Instinct. I don't care if it's optional or not, unless it's absolutely needed to use in the game, I don't see the point in having it. Let us do the thinking and we'll no doubt enjoy it more.

It's optional, you don't have to use it.

What about all of those people who plays the classics and use walkthroughs? Perhaps they're not actually that hard, but people just have a shorter attention span. They can benefit from a hint system as opposed to going online searching for walkthroughs.

Stevo505 05-02-12 00:56

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Originally Posted by Mikky (Post 5956764)
I still can imagine how so many people will be complaining about how easy SI will make the game, me included. CD think that they're putting it in to "help" the player but I can't imagine that the puzzles or the game itself is going to be so difficult that we will actually need to use it.
It's the same thing with Lara's RAD binoculars in TRL and the hint system in TRU. Not once did I actually "need" to use them. I guess it's to do with CD's weird obsession about making TRs more appealing to "general" gamers - they think their games are too difficult for non-fans so they put silly gimmicks in the game to help them. No help gimmick was put in TRA (except maybe the journal, but that was nothing really and it didn't outright tell you what to do, like in TRU) and that was the hardest of the 3, which is kinda ironic. I actually preferred that there was no help system - it made the game much more enjoyable and challenging.

I really wish they would just get rid of this Survival Instinct. I don't care if it's optional or not, unless it's absolutely needed to use in the game, I don't see the point in having it. Let us do the thinking and we'll no doubt enjoy it more.

I don't think you speak for everyone who's going to play it. The game isn't just for the fans :p. If you don't want to use the feature, don't use it. You don't have to, really. If it irritates you that much then don't play... lol

Mikky 05-02-12 01:00

^ I still fail to see a valid reason as to why there needs to be a hint system. :confused: It's all I'm trying to say.

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Originally Posted by larafan25 (Post 5956780)
It's optional, you don't have to use it.

So was the hint system and the sonar map in TRU, yet I've read so many complaints about how pointless they were because TRU just simply wasn't that hard and if you did happen to struggle, it just took away from the enjoyment of figuring out stuff yourself.
There are so many games out there harder than TRU and yet they are perfectly okay without a hint system. I can't imagine that TR2012 will be so incredibly hard that it will be necessary to use SI. :/

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Originally Posted by larafan25 (Post 5956780)
What about all of those people who plays the classics and use walkthroughs? Perhaps they're not actually that hard, but people just have a shorter attention span.

The classics are harder than the CD Trilogy will ever be, imo and I don't think anyone has ever complained about there NOT being a hint system in those. You know why? Because they enjoyed the games more that way.

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Originally Posted by larafan25 (Post 5956780)
They can benefit from a hint system as opposed to going online searching for walkthroughs.

I think there is a difference between an in-game hint system and an off-game hint system.

larafan25 05-02-12 01:04

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Originally Posted by Mikky (Post 5956825)
So was the hint system and the sonar map in TRU, yet I've read so many complaints about how pointless they were because TRU just simply wasn't that hard and if you did happen to struggle, it just took away from the enjoyment of figuring out stuff yourself.

But not everyone thinks being stumped is enjoyable, so they use the hint system.

Not to mention this hint system doesn't verbalize the solution, it simply shows use the items needed to complete the puzzle.

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There are so many games out there harder than TRU and yet they are perfectly okay without a hint system. I can't imagine that TR2012 will be so incredibly hard that it will be necessary to use SI. :/
Which games?

And people still could have used a walktrhough.

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The classics are harder than the CD Trilogy will ever be, imo and I don't think anyone has ever complained about there NOT being a hint system in those. You know why? Because they enjoyed the games more that way.
Or because there are walkthroughs on the Internet.


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I think there is a difference between an in-game hint system and an off-game hint system.
Yeah, one is more convenient, but they're both used with the same purpose.

Stevo505 05-02-12 01:05

Perhaps you don't need a hint system, but others might. Is it really a huge issue? It's there for players' convenience if needed, but if you don't need it, then there's no reason to use it. But you make it seem like it's a huge deal that the hint system is there in the first place when it really isn't.

skylark1121 05-02-12 01:07

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Originally Posted by Stevo505 (Post 5956838)
Perhaps you don't need a hint system, but others might. Is it really a huge issue? It's there for players' convenience if needed, but if you don't need it, then there's no reason to use it. But you make it seem like it's a huge deal that the hint system is there in the first place when it really isn't.

This!

That way the first time TR player doesn't go to all his friends and say, "Don't get this game! It's too hard!"


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