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EscondeR 23-05-13 18:18

One should have a really sad colourless life if a fraction of a second glimpse of stripe of extra skin drives him/her that crazy... especially considering we are talking about pixels :rolleyes:

What about Alice Liddel then? Would you call her "not sexualized" (according to your definition)?

It's incredible how some people can cling to one small episode and make an elephant of a fly... when some games are entirely IQ insulting :mis:

tomee 23-05-13 18:27

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Originally Posted by EscondeR (Post 6796806)
One should have a really sad colourless life if a fraction of a second glimpse of stripe of extra skin drives him/her that crazy... especially considering we are talking about pixels :rolleyes:

Sigh, it's a child, can't you grasp that? That's just wrong.
It doesn't drive anyone crazy, it's just that a lot of people agree that it was unnecessary and wrong move.

I'm not sure why you say that they are just pixels. Porn on my screen is also just a bunch of pixels.

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What about Alice Liddel then? Would you call her "not sexualized" (according to your definition)?
Er, what are you on about? :confused:

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It's incredible how some people can cling to one small episode and make an elephant of a fly...
Actually, you're pretty much the only one who doesn't agree with us on this matter.

Spong 23-05-13 18:30

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Originally Posted by tomee (Post 6796821)
Sigh, it's a child, can't you grasp that? That's just wrong.

How old is Lara supposed to be in the Ireland section of Chronicles?

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Originally Posted by tomee (Post 6796821)
Porn on my screen is also just a bunch of pixels.

If you think it's "porn" when someone is getting ready to go to bed or merely changing their clothes (as it appears in that cutscene), then you need to see a therapist or something :p. It's all about context ;)

tomee 23-05-13 18:41

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Originally Posted by Spong (Post 6796825)
How old is Lara supposed to be in the Ireland section of Chronicles?

Well, Lara was born in 1968 in the Core bio and according to this trailer the Ireland events took place when she was only 11.

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If you think it's "porn" when someone is getting ready to go to bed or merely changing their clothes (as it appears in that cutscene), then you need to see a therapist or something :p. It's all about context ;)
Who said it's porn? I just followed EscondeR's line of logic that they are merely pixels. Nudity is nudity and Lara was definitely underage at that time. Yes, she was about to go bed, but that's irrelevant. Core didn't need to show it, this doesn't develop the Ireland story, it's just there for the sake of it.

_Ninja_ 23-05-13 18:43

If that scene in question was from TR2013 I wonder how different some people would sound.

Spong 23-05-13 18:49

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Originally Posted by tomee (Post 6796838)
Well, Lara was born in 1968 in the Core bio and according to this trailer the Ireland events took place when she was only 11.

That's the answer I found too, at Stella's TR timeline. I couldn't believe it though, she doesn't look eleven. She looks the same age she does during the Angkor Wat thing in Last Revelation, apparently she was sixteen then.

tomee 23-05-13 19:05

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Originally Posted by Spong (Post 6796845)
That's the answer I found too, at Stella's TR timeline. I couldn't believe it though, she doesn't look eleven. She looks the same age she does during the Angkor Wat thing in Last Revelation, apparently she was sixteen then.

Yeah, it really sounds very young. I'd say 14ish sounds better.
The fact that she was 16 in Angkor Wat is irrelevant IMO. Core didn't have the resources/didn't bother to make a new model so they just reused it. Fair enough.

EscondeR 23-05-13 19:44

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Originally Posted by tomee (Post 6796838)
Who said it's porn? I just followed EscondeR's line of logic that they are merely pixels. Nudity is nudity and Lara was definitely underage at that time. Yes, she was about to go bed, but that's irrelevant. Core didn't need to show it, this doesn't develop the Ireland story, it's just there for the sake of it.

You compared it to porn... Should I quote?

I see you have a very wide definition of nudity.
Exaggeration is exaggeration. Period.

tomee 23-05-13 19:52

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Originally Posted by EscondeR (Post 6796987)
You compared it to porn... Should I quote?

Nope. You said they are just pixels. I said that porn for example is also just pixels. Yet there is a huge difference between them. Just because the FMV is made of pixels is no excuse.
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I see you have a very wide definition of nudity.
Exaggeration is exaggeration. Period.
Right, bad wording. Suggestive material?

Spong 23-05-13 20:04

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Originally Posted by tomee (Post 6797003)
Right, bad wording. Suggestive material?

It's the context that you're getting wrong, saying it's suggestive gives the impression that scene is in some way purposely titillating. It isn't, it's just a girl getting changed (for whatever reason). There's nothing suggestive or titillating about that context.

larafan25 23-05-13 20:06

I think the thing is that because it's Lara, it's Lara.... it becomes a bit awkward, like...you've waited all this time to almost flash her *****, the talk of the town, and it happens to be when she's 15? It's just weird that it happened like that.

Oh my ****ing God. ***** is censored.

Lara_Fan1 23-05-13 20:06

This whole thing has been blown way out of proportion thanks to EscondeR.

Spong 23-05-13 20:08

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Originally Posted by larafan25 (Post 6797028)
Oh my ****ing God. ***** is censored.

It had to be censored after someone made a tribute thread about you :p

skylark1121 23-05-13 20:11

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Originally Posted by larafan25 (Post 6796749)
^Guurl, they can do that stuff with the flick of a wand, we can't just script things in the LE like they can. TBH.

/I didn't see this earlier. :p

Just because they have access to visual scripting, C++, Lua, etc. for scripting, does not mean it was at all an easy task or 'flick of the wand', gurl. This stuff is still very difficult to code in! :p

larafan25 23-05-13 20:13

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Originally Posted by skylark1121 (Post 6797034)
/I didn't see this earlier. :p

Just because they have access to visual scripting, C++, Lua, etc. for scripting, does not mean it was at all an easy task or 'flick of the wand', gurl. This stuff is still very difficult to code in! :p

I still think it's harder for those using TRLE and for us who are not experienced "pros".

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Originally Posted by Spong (Post 6797032)
It had to be censored after someone made a tribute thread about you :p

lu l

skylark1121 23-05-13 20:16

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Originally Posted by larafan25 (Post 6797037)
I still think it's harder for those using TRLE and for us who are not experienced "pros".

Oh definitely! TRLE/NGLE doesn't have any sort of visual scripting, which is an amazing resource of newer engines. And scripting is indeed daunting when you don't have a lot of education with it. :p
I'm just saying that, after doing some studying with other advanced engines, I'm intrigued by how they set up a lot of the mechanics in TR. :pi:

larafan25 23-05-13 20:18

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Originally Posted by skylark1121 (Post 6797040)
Oh definitely! TRLE/NGLE doesn't have any sort of visual scripting, which is an amazing resource of newer engines. And scripting is indeed daunting when you don't have a lot of education with it. :p
I'm just saying that, after doing some studying with other advanced engines, I'm intrigued by how they set up a lot of the mechanics in TR. :pi:

volumes?

When Lara enters a certain area, a certain state will exist and she'll play a different animation, and out controls will be different within that state. maybe?

skylark1121 23-05-13 20:30

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Originally Posted by larafan25 (Post 6797043)
volumes?

When Lara enters a certain area, a certain state will exist and she'll play a different animation, and out controls will be different within that state. maybe?

It's definitely something like that. I think they set up some sort of road or path entity that has special parameters that cause Lara to perform those specific animations, and that causes the player's control to be modified. That makes sense at least for the sliding sections of the game--the waterfall slide, the slide after the crashing plane, etc. But, I'm especially confused about the parachute part. I suppose a similar path entity could be set up, and whenever she goes outside of that, she dies, and the death animation plays, but that doesn't quite sound right. My head hurts. But the scripting behind these entities is my main curiosity. :p

larafan25 23-05-13 20:34

It could be an entirely separate game function, the parachute. It ends after a cutscene, maybe it's set-up like a mini game and you just play a "level" with special parameters/ movement effects.

skylark1121 23-05-13 20:35

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Originally Posted by larafan25 (Post 6797071)
It could be an entirely separate game function, the parachute. It ends after a cutscene, maybe it's set-up like a mini game and you just play a "level" with special parameters/ movement effects.

I bet that's it, because TR uses background loading during cutscenes, and since that sequence is surrounded by cutscenes, that would make sense. :)

larafan25 23-05-13 20:39

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Originally Posted by skylark1121 (Post 6797076)
I bet that's it, because TR uses background loading during cutscenes, and since that sequence is surrounded by cutscenes, that would make sense. :)

I'm a genius.

I need new TR media.

What do you guys thin will be the first image we see of the next game? D:

Spong 23-05-13 20:41

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Originally Posted by larafan25 (Post 6797088)
What do you guys thin will be the first image we see of the next game? D:

Lara obviously. Crystal are that predictable.

Lara_Fan1 23-05-13 20:42

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Originally Posted by Spong (Post 6797092)
Lara obviously. Crystal are that predictable.

Nah, it will be leaked concept art :).

Ardent Pizza 23-05-13 20:43

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Originally Posted by Spong (Post 6797092)
Lara obviously. Crystal are that predictable.

You spilled some hot truth tea. I was about to say the same thing.

Spong 23-05-13 20:43

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Originally Posted by Lara_Fan1 (Post 6797093)
Nah, it will be leaked concept art :).

Of Lara :p

larafan25 23-05-13 20:44

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Originally Posted by Spong (Post 6797092)
Lara obviously. Crystal are that predictable.

actually...

Lara wasn't even in the first image of her self-titled spin-off series. It was just the logo.

Spong 23-05-13 20:46

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Originally Posted by larafan25 (Post 6797097)
Lara wasn't even in the first image of her self-titled spin-off series. It was just the logo.

It's only a series if there's more than one game ;)

skylark1121 23-05-13 20:46

I don't think it's uncommon to see the character you play as in the game in the first concept arts/leaked concept arts.... :p

Ardent Pizza 23-05-13 20:49

The reboot was so Lara-centric. They can keep using Lara as the face for the future campaigns, so they don't have to hire fame hungry and overly expensive girls anymore, but let the game speak for itself next time.

Lara_Fan1 23-05-13 20:49

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Originally Posted by Spong (Post 6797095)
Of Lara :p

No it'll be the 'monsters' of the environment :)

Spong 23-05-13 20:50

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Originally Posted by Lara_Fan1 (Post 6797106)
No it'll be the 'monsters' of the environment :)

With Lara in the middle :tea:

Rai 24-05-13 00:14

I just saw this originally on the Eidos Forums, but I just had to share:

http://24.media.tumblr.com/a723923c0...5hdvo1_500.jpg
http://suzannewolfs.tumblr.com/post/...roft-sculpture

:eek: This is just amazing.

spyrostr 24-05-13 00:17

i dont like her face that much but other than that it's amazing :D

Lara_Fan1 24-05-13 00:22

They can never get the face right lol. I s'pose it is hard like.

It's a good little model though :).

Mikky 24-05-13 00:24

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Originally Posted by Lara_Fan1 (Post 6797325)
They can never get the face right lol.

That's what I was gonna say. :p

Love the pose of the statue, though.

Lara_Fan1 24-05-13 00:26

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Originally Posted by Mikky (Post 6797326)
That's what I was gonna say. :p

Although, I have a very old model of TR2, of her in her wetsuit holding the harpoon gun and her face is spot on.
It's just the newer games they have a hard time getting it as closely to the game/renders as possible.

Rai 24-05-13 00:29

I don't know for sure, but I think this is fan made. The face isn't spot on, but it's a close interpretation. I just love the sculptre as a whole, the pose is great. It's reminiscent of the TRA one only with a bow.

**LARA LOVER** 24-05-13 02:24

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Originally Posted by Rai (Post 6797320)
I just saw this originally on the Eidos Forums, but I just had to share:

http://24.media.tumblr.com/a723923c0...5hdvo1_500.jpg
http://suzannewolfs.tumblr.com/post/...roft-sculpture

:eek: This is just amazing.


This is fan made I saw it on someone's deviantart :)

larafan25 24-05-13 03:34

oh my gaaawd im dying at this tumblr post :vlol:

http://booasaur.tumblr.com/post/5119...the-ending-was

I didn't notice it at first. lawl.

Stevo505 24-05-13 03:40

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Originally Posted by larafan25 (Post 6797431)
oh my gaaawd im dying at this tumblr post :vlol:

http://booasaur.tumblr.com/post/5119...the-ending-was

I didn't notice it at first. lawl.

:vlol: So true.


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