Voted.
Poor TR, it's always second to something. :vlol:
At first it was Assassin's creed 3 and now GTA 5.

GTA never really disappointed the fanbase. Okay maybe GTA4 wasn't the best but the franchise itself still has a much better reputation than TR. It'd still sell better without any promotion.

GTA 5 is #1? Of course, it'll be an awesome game. Rockstar never disappoints, compared to other developers *coughcough* :D

Edit: I voted for The Last of Us by the way

Voted.

TR won't win it though. GTA will... :-//

Voted for TR of course. If otherwise, karma would get me...:pi:
Kinda sad seeing DmC so low tho

Goes without saying. Better to be second to something that popular though, than nothing at all.

You're right, girl :D

OMG.
The Last of Us is trying to catch up!
KILL IT.

The Last of Us is the better game :pi: imo

I agree.

I see what you did there! :vlol:

If you put The Last of Us into the movie category, then Tomb Raider belongs right next to it with its cinematic QTE cutcene gameplay. ;)

I didn't know you played it already. :p

I didnt, but I played Tomb Raider already :p Just because Tomb Raider is a damn good game, that doesnt mean it has to be the best game of 2013. At least for me, its not :D Because I am way more excited for The Last of Us.

Touché. They'll both be fantastic, no doubt.

TLoU in my opinion has better AI and graphics (just cause it's a exclusive title). Other than that the story, of what I've seen so far, TR owns it by far. But I'm still getting both!

No, not really.

The Last of Us -> Cinematic 3rd Person Action Adventure ----> "Movie in your Opinion"
Tomb Raider -> Cinematic 3rd Person Action Adventure ----> "Game in your Opinion".

Well, whatever you think about The Last of Us in MY opinion its still the better Game ;)

I am Not saying Tomb Raider is bad, by the way. Its just not my most anticipated title this year. There are The Last of Us, Beyond (which would be closer to a movie than TLoU) and GTA V on my radar too. Tomb Raider is somewhere among them, I guess

Wow, they have one similar element of course we must categorize them them same. :p
Extremely silly.

The Last of Us is much more cinematic, simple and linear than Tombraider. Tombraider has a lot more doing, than watching. :p Alot more interactivity..

I've not seen anything from the Last of Us that doesn't make me just see Enslaved (A main guy working on the game even worked on Enslaved) re-hashed in a closer time to our own, more dull with guns. :p OH and with an even more simplified "game play" style and even more cinematic.

TBQH, judging by trailers, screenshots and information, there's nothing interesting in The Last of Us. Beyond: Two Souls is more interesting.

I agree! :tmb:

Running from point A to point B, picking up some arrows and smashing some boxes on the way is more interactivity? And especially "simple". How can a game become simpler than Tomb Raider with all the pop-ups, Eagle Visio--- eh Survival Instinct and "I need to get that bow." "I NEED to get that bow NOW" "I think I need that bow" voices going on.

Even though TLoU does not have stuff like basecamps etc I would not consider it a movie. Its as cinematic as Uncharted (probably because its both developed by Naughty Dog) which is also nothing like a movie.

Stuff like Heavy Rain, Max Payne 3 or The Walking Dead or Beyond are movies. TLoU is far from that imo ;)

It all depends on someones Point of View, and in my PoV its no movie.

Its called, a genre. And games are categorized into genres because of similar elements. Yup - damn silly. :p

It's basically a movie imo.

And no, it's not a genre. :p

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Action Adventure is a genre yes, but it's also very ambiguous! There are many games that are considered action adventure and are completely different. :p So, my point stands...they both are cinematic and in the 3rd person...doesn't necessarily make them similar. Plus, we were on about them being movies...their genre has not much to do with that. How they are executed is.

Wohoooo TR at 16% votes. I had nothing to do with it :whi:

Was it that hard? I respect your opinion, sir :p

And imo Tomb Raider is as close to being a movie as TLoU is.

Don't compare TR to The last of us.
Tomb Raider is a semi-open world game... That says much.
The Last of us is just Uncharted with different Story and Characters tbh..

Read the edit...

Genre has little to do with it being like a movie, which we were discussing. End of discussion frankly. :p I could give many examples of where cinematic gameplay is found outside the AA genre.

I think you find it harder than me. ;D

And like I said above genre means ****. Which was your main argument which you are now chosing to drop, assuming I've made a good point.

Because we can? Oh I forgot this is the TR section full of Nazis who get upset if you don't blow TR.

Forr the recored I am more than pumped for TR but am more pumped for DmC. :wve:

We weren't even discussing how much impact a genre has on cinematic gameplay *facepalm* I brought up that they are both cinematic 3rd person action adventures. Which is correct, you then stated how silly I am by putting those 2 games together in a category.
THEN I started talking about genres - They were never my main argument or something. I just tried to defend myself against your

Because thats what genres are there for. And they are not extremly silly.

But you stated your self that Cinematic 3rd person action adventure is no genre so whats the matter with you continuing to talk about them?

I thought the things I brought up (cinematic 3rd person action adventure) are no genres? :p --->

Ouch.

Nazi? Please... I asked a simple question.
If you can't understand what other people say or how they say something you shouldn't respond unless you are sure. :wve:

It's true. There are members here who will put you on a stake and burn you if they think you are against TR.
Take your own advice, smart guy.

kinda true though.
Look:


Tomb Raider is not the best game in 2013.


(and now just wait for 'them')

But there's a big difference between being a moron and a nazi.

I don't even care about the awards.
I just asked a simple question but is seems that here you can't ask or tell anything without being called names or being criticized... lol whatevs...

I can't believe I lost a fight! You guys should leave a reminder 1 minute prior to the beginning of the fight.

What? Nobody is fighting... :confused:

@Dark_Messiah

The whole discussion was over the games being more of a movie than a game...you instantly saying...They are both 3RD Person Cinematic AA games. That was your argument about them being just as much as movies as eachother.

I was saying it's silly as that is not enough to say it is more like a movie, as I said how the game is executed is what's important. I don't know what you think we were talking about but spanning from my original point this was all about them being movie like nothing else.

You seem to think that just because a game is cinematic means it more like a movie, yes that is also important. However, breaking down TR and TLOU their execution both makes them different and either more movie like or not which I believe the TLOU is very movie like.

For example, take platforming for example.

TLOU (From what I've seen)

-Walking around, few linear paths leading in the same way. Pressing one button to get up and pull yourself up the item.

Literally all I've seen in that game.

Tombraider

-Scramble.
-Normal ledge hop and climb, single button like the TLOU.
-Pick Axe. X to interact with, A to jump including X again to reattach.
-Being able to direct Lara within the air.
-Use ropes to platform further (with the bow)

There's probably other things I've missed but that's my point. They are both cinematic and heavily story based but in boths gameplay TLOU is always very simplified.

Even in combat which the TLOU seems more about is simplified. Enviroments are more linear to...meaning less interaction with the world. Puzzles...simplifed and none existent and more just about finding a way up to places or handling enemies (which TR does to though TR has many more interation of puzzles)

The game lacks substance and depth, and seems more movie like based on everything I've seen. Why? explained above.

:vlol:

Wanna fight? SOMEONE BRING MY BODY OIL

There are fights here every day, hard to miss :o Or at least, heavy discussions :p

Well it wasn't exactly a fight, but the whole "being called names" thing and the heated conversation fall under the "Fighting" category in my mind, lol :p . My post wasn't meant to be serious, of course, it's just that I like to see a funny side in... well... nearly EVERYTHING :p .

:vlol:

You pick a place to fight, I'll bring a cheering mob ;) .

Yes, this place is rather... intresting xD .