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larafan25 04-04-12 23:47

^How would we heal ourselves if we were crawling with damaged legs? :p

[QUOTE=jhs270694;6084233]Like the head? 1 hit death? sounds fun.[/QUOTE]

I would love this, so much more incentive to hide...but then there'd be a cover system I'm sure. Especially since the game has stealth.

Lukass 04-04-12 23:49

[QUOTE=larafan25;6084237]^How would we heal ourselves if we were crawling with damaged legs? :p
[/QUOTE]

You must ask CEE DEE, not me :) And she'll be crippled. Injuries will affect gameplay.

Stevo505 04-04-12 23:51

Lol... you fall off a cliff and you can just crawl around until you die :D

larafan25 04-04-12 23:51

^Having a bit of control to move around as you're dying would be...sadistic...but so...new.

[QUOTE=Lukass;6084245]You must ask CEE DEE, not me :) And she'll be crippled. Injuries will affect gameplay.[/QUOTE]

That was said, but then it seemed like something was said against that.

Oh, who knows?

But wouldn't it be unrealistic to be dragging your legs one moment, then fine the next?

Lukass 04-04-12 23:54

[QUOTE=larafan25;6084258]
But wouldn't it be unrealistic to be dragging your legs one moment, then fine the next?[/QUOTE]

This sounds freaking funny to me :vlol:

Well, I can imagine healing if she was attacked somewhere near a basecamp, but I can't imagine how she'll heal herself if heavily injured in the middle of the woods.

jhs270694 04-04-12 23:56

But then the game gets completely complicated. for example, we were half way during a mission, then we are required to platform but lara is unable to because of the extent of her injuries UNLESS we are forced to go back and heal ourselves. That actually sounds way better than pulling a med pack with instantaneous results, perhaps have a place to regenerate and actually see lara healing herself with antiseptic herbs and wrapping bandages similar to the trailer. I doubt it would be this complex though.

just*raidin*tomb 05-04-12 00:00

[QUOTE=larafan25;6084237]^How would we heal ourselves if we were crawling with damaged legs? :p



I would love this, so much more incentive to hide...but then there'd be a cover system I'm sure. Especially since the game has stealth.[/QUOTE]

Considering they've said there will be a lot of people on the island, I can imagine there definitely being a cover system. Or at least its a definite possibility. How exciting. D:

And stealth og a;lskdfj;als give me combat gameplay pl0x.

I was reading comments on the e3 demo video demo:

[I]"A woman version of Uncharted? Sick!" [/I]

This game has potential to win over soooo many new fans who apparently aren't very aware of Tomb Raider's existence in that it came before Unhcarted did. :p But I think its great. Hopefully the game will be good enough to build that strong fan base back that AC and Uncharted etc have.

larafan25 05-04-12 00:05

[QUOTE=jhs270694;6084275]But then the game gets completely complicated. for example, we were half way during a mission, then we are required to platform but lara is unable to because of the extent of her injuries UNLESS we are forced to go back and heal ourselves. That actually sounds way better than pulling a med pack with instantaneous results, perhaps have a place to regenerate and actually see lara healing herself with antiseptic herbs and wrapping bandages similar to the trailer. I doubt it would be this complex though.[/QUOTE]

Given the fact that she jumped after the spike in the opening gameplay, I doubt her abilities will be too affected. Otherwise she'd be growing weaker. :pi:

I think she'll just show (via animations like in RE..well and any game) that she more hurt, and move slowly, sort of in pain holding herself.

[QUOTE=just*raidin*tomb;6084284]Considering they've said there will be a lot of people on the island, I can imagine there definitely being a cover system. Or at least its a definite possibility. How exciting. D:

And stealth og a;lskdfj;als give me combat gameplay pl0x.[/QUOTE]

EYE.

CAN'T.

BELIEVE.

MYSELF.

It's weird though...if there is a cover system...where is it? o.O

Like...I haven't see it in any screenshots, nothing looks like cover..so...maybe there isn't a cover system.

jhs270694 05-04-12 00:08

I hope its a bit like metal gear solid snake eater, with the crawling in the grass and stuff. mgs had a simple cover system i tink, worked well.

just*raidin*tomb 05-04-12 00:08

Maybe its a cover system without being as obvious as Uncharted is...

Like... maybe you just crouch behind things like trees and boulders and walls and less obvious things? There might not be a cover system of course but its just makes so much more sense from a realism stand point.

larafan25 05-04-12 00:12

[QUOTE=jhs270694;6084301]I hope its a bit like metal gear solid snake eater, with the crawling in the grass and stuff. mgs had a simple cover system i tink, worked well.[/QUOTE]

I want an army crawl from AOD.

In fact...can this Lara even roll/ crawl?

I think a more classic crawling animation would suit this Lara, than the silly squatting in LAU.

[QUOTE=just*raidin*tomb;6084303]Maybe its a cover system without being as obvious as Uncharted is...

Like... maybe you just crouch behind things like trees and boulders and walls and less obvious things? There might not be a cover system of course but its just makes so much more sense from a realism stand point.[/QUOTE]

mmm I would love running and sliding into cover in stealth mode. Seeing as I love the Uncharted 2 cover system, playing as Rika, and sneaking from one cover position to another.

But then again, perhaps with limited cover you're forced to better analyze enemy movement and time your moves just right so you don't get caught.

edit: I could totally see this stealth systemm! You just crouch around things like mentioned, and the part where he searches the guy, I could see Lara doing that.

jhs270694 05-04-12 00:24

I wonder how the stealth mechanics work. Is there like a percentage showing how well we are camouflaged with our environment? So many questions lol

Stevo505 05-04-12 00:26

I hope her boobs shake when we go into stealth mode like AOD.

Mikky 05-04-12 00:27

I hope there is no "stealth mode".

larafan25 05-04-12 00:28

^Are u being tricky? Because it's confirmed there are stealth affairs.

I hope it's an actual mode/ mechanic though. Not just something we can use here and there when CEE DEE fair.

[QUOTE=jhs270694;6084353]I wonder how the stealth mechanics work. Is there like a percentage showing how well we are camouflaged with our environment? So many questions lol[/QUOTE]

I feel like if we're behind something, and ducking, we'll be fine. But if we stand, then we'd be caught...

Could be a lot like Batman Arkham Asylum/ City...

[QUOTE=Stevo505;6084362]I hope her boobs shake when we go into stealth mode like AOD.[/QUOTE]

Lara's boobs will be so nice in this game. I'm sure. Leik...they're just so real and pretty.

Mikky 05-04-12 00:31

[QUOTE=larafan25;6084372]^Are u being tricky? Because it's confirmed there are stealth affairs.

I hope it's an actual mode/ mechanic though. Not just something we can use here and there when CEE DEE fair.
[/QUOTE]

That's what I mean; I don't like the idea of having to press a button to go into a "mode" just so we can sneak around. I'm sure it's possible to have stealth without it.

leglion 05-04-12 00:33

That would be boring stealth.

Stevo505 05-04-12 00:33

[QUOTE=Mikky;6084384]That's what I mean; I don't like the idea of having to press a button to go into a "mode" just so we can sneak around. I'm sure it's possible to have stealth without it.[/QUOTE]

Maybe they will make it like the less you push the analog stick the slower she walks, like a stealth mode without having to press a button.

larafan25 05-04-12 00:33

^That sounds dangerous and annoying, I'd rather a button to initiate stealth mode.

[QUOTE=Mikky;6084384]That's what I mean; I don't like the idea of having to press a button to go into a "mode" just so we can sneak around. I'm sure it's possible to have stealth without it.[/QUOTE]

Of course it's possible. If **** = in ma enemees weigh + Lurur behynd stuff = eye no c u.

Basic I guess.

Mikky 05-04-12 00:35

^ WTF are you on about? :p

[QUOTE=Stevo505;6084390]Maybe they will make it like the less you push the analog stick the slower she walks, like a stealth mode without having to press a button.[/QUOTE]

Sure. Besides, there's so much more to stealth then just sneaking.

Stevo505 05-04-12 00:40

[QUOTE=larafan25;6084391]

Of course it's possible. If **** = in ma enemees weigh + Lurur behynd stuff = eye no c u.

Basic I guess.[/QUOTE]

Lurur.

Anyway, about the stealth being "dangerous," Lara's situation is dangerous. Don't you want a sense of danger? :p

jhs270694 05-04-12 00:41

I'm not sure about a 'mode' as such, if it were to be realistic then it has to be dependant on our environment as to when we have the option to use use it. Its not like we can chose to go stealth mode out of the blue unless we find an application that allows us to do so like mentioned before: behind a wall, rock, crawling or even just simply moving around in the night time without a torch or something.

larafan25 05-04-12 00:42

[QUOTE=Stevo505;6084400]Lurur.[/QUOTE]

Ruffth. Rawth.

[QUOTE=jhs270694;6084401]I'm not sure about a 'mode' as such, if it were to be realistic then it has to be to depend on our environment as to when we have the option to use use it. Its not like we can chose to go stealth mode out of the blue unless we find an application that allows us to do so like mentioned before: behind a wall, rock, crawling or even just simply moving around in the night time.[/QUOTE]

But a mode would simply be a button that initiates stealthier movements. Anyone can tip-toe whenever they like in real life, so we should be able to do, with the press of a button.

It's like holding down crouch to crawl.

just*raidin*tomb 05-04-12 00:43

I want there to be stealth without it being obvious. For example... in uncharted we can sneak by enemies or get closer to them without us noticing if we're sneaky. Apply this concept with silent kills and hiding up in trees, higher areas, behind objects, etc.

Stealth mode is not something I really want. I want the combat, the stealth, and everything to be cohesive and seamless.

The bow and arrow could certainly help with more silent kills from a distance. D:

larafan25 05-04-12 00:44

Bute Nate only plays the stealth animation is it's a stealthy setup.

I don't want to come across enemies in one direction specifically for a stealth encounter, I want to be able to approach the situation from 360 degrees. It's too contextual in Uncharted IMO.

jhs270694 05-04-12 00:46

[QUOTE=larafan25;6084403]Ruffth. Rawth.



But a mode would simply be a button that initiates stealthier movements. Anyone can tip-toe whenever they like in real life, so we should be able to do, with the press of a button.

It's like holding down crouch to crawl.[/QUOTE]
if that's what you mean then that's just like saying lets put a fight mode in, its inevitably going to be there. You essentially mean the same thing as everyone else i guess.

larafan25 05-04-12 00:47

[QUOTE=jhs270694;6084408]if that's what you mean then that's just like saying lets put a fight mode in, its inevitably going to be there. You essentially mean the same as everyone else i guess.[/QUOTE]

I just mean, I want to press a button for Lara to enter a quiet walking mode, in which she crouches a bit like in AOD, so I can sneak up on enemies and kill them stealthily.

just*raidin*tomb 05-04-12 00:48

[QUOTE=larafan25;6084405]Bute Nate only plays the stealth animation is it's a stealthy setup.

I don't want to come across enemies in one direction specifically for a stealth encounter, I want to be able to approach the situation from 360 degrees. It's too contextual in Uncharted IMO.[/QUOTE]

But if they see you... its not happening stealth wise. How could you go 360 degrees?

I agree I don't want her animations to go all stealthy just because the game says so. I'd rather do it myself if that's what you're saying.

larafan25 05-04-12 00:50

[QUOTE=just*raidin*tomb;6084410]But if they see you... its not happening stealth wise. How could you go 360 degrees?

I agree I don't want her animations to go all stealthy just because the game says so. I'd rather do it myself if that's what you're saying.[/QUOTE]

In Uncharted the game is mostly linear, so if you're going to approach an enemy, it's probably from one direction (this is the case a few times I guess, but not always) so Nate can be like "Oh, shhh..." and then an animation of being being sneaky plays.

I'd rather, as you said, initiate that animation myself instead of being I'm in some cinematic stealth scenario.

In fact I want stealth to be an option anyways.

Lukass 05-04-12 00:51

Do you think she'll be able to climb trees?

jhs270694 05-04-12 00:53

She can maybe perhaps use her survival instinct to mark locations of stealth or something as she becomes more experienced in that field? Just a thought. I want it to grow as an ability but i think most people here would disagree.

just*raidin*tomb 05-04-12 00:55

[QUOTE=Lukass;6084413]Do you think she'll be able to climb trees?[/QUOTE]
Hopefully...some. Though I doubt it.
[QUOTE=larafan25;6084411]In Uncharted the game is mostly linear, so if you're going to approach an enemy, it's probably from one direction (this is the case a few times I guess, but not always) so Nate can be like "Oh, shhh..." and then an animation of being being sneaky plays.

I'd rather, as you said, initiate that animation myself instead of being I'm in some cinematic stealth scenario.

In fact I want stealth to be an option anyways.[/QUOTE]

I agree. I just don't want it to be forced.

larafan25 05-04-12 00:56

[QUOTE=Lukass;6084413]Do you think she'll be able to climb trees?[/QUOTE]

IDK.

I've thought tree climbing would be messy and disorienting, and not something which would be fun TBH. I'd rather spend my time running and jumping across monastery rooftops.

I'll see how they do it in Assassin's Creed before opinioning.

[QUOTE=jhs270694;6084415]She can maybe perhaps use her survival instinct to mark locations of stealth or something as she becomes more experienced in that field? Just a thought. I want it to grow as an ability but i think most people here would disagree.[/QUOTE]

Is she that stupid though? I mean...it should be obvious when you can hide behind a surface, kids play hide and seek.

Phlip 05-04-12 00:56

ok when [I]actually[/I] is the release date, do we know? or a rough one?

larafan25 05-04-12 00:57

[QUOTE=Phlip;6084421]ok when [I]actually[/I] is the release date, do we know? or a rough one?[/QUOTE]

Fall 2012.

Anywhere from September onwards.

edit: But not in September I think.

jhs270694 05-04-12 00:58

[QUOTE=larafan25;6084419]IDK.

I've thought tree climbing would be messy and disorienting, and not something which would be fun TBH. I'd rather spend my time running and jumping across monastery rooftops.

I'll see how they do it in Assassin's Creed before opinioning.



Is she that stupid though? I mean...it should be obvious when you can hide behind a surface, kids play hide and seek.[/QUOTE]
In that case send a kid to infiltrate a military base without been seen. im sure nobody would see them :D
Nah joke, im just saying although to an extent we can use stealth, its just like any other skill. i mean i could say the same for combat, anyone can fight but do they know the right techniques of doing so than a more experienced fighter?

Or maybe a more experienced hunter knows how to hide better than an amateur lol

larafan25 05-04-12 00:59

[QUOTE=jhs270694;6084424]In that case send a kid to infiltrate a military base. im sure nobody would see them :D[/QUOTE]

lol.

Well....

they'd still know where to hide, just not what to do when caught. :pi:

Phlip 05-04-12 01:02

[QUOTE=larafan25;6084422]Fall 2012.

Anywhere from September onwards.

edit: But not in September I think.[/QUOTE]

Umm what? I don't even know what "Fall" is. :p I'm English. <3 Autumn? What months?

just*raidin*tomb 05-04-12 01:04

[QUOTE=Phlip;6084430]Umm what? I don't even know what "Fall" is. :p I'm English. <3 Autumn? What months?[/QUOTE]

Yes Autumn September - November.

larafan25 05-04-12 01:04

[QUOTE=Phlip;6084430]Umm what? I don't even know what "Fall" is. :p I'm English. <3 Autumn? What months?[/QUOTE]

September onwards is something else I said. ._.


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