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rbfeik 12-10-18 21:13

Π Ι Ω in The Library of Alexandria?
 
Does anybody know the reason for the "Π Ι Ω", Pi, Iota, & Omega letters that appear on the wall in several places of the The Library of Alexandria?

HarleyCroft 13-10-18 03:48

Interesting :ponder:
I have no idea though! Hope somebody does :p

Zreen001 13-10-18 06:42

From wikipedia (some information removed for brevity, relevancy, and clarity):

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Pi (/paɪ/; uppercase Π, lowercase π and ϖ; Greek: πι [pi]) is the sixteenth letter of the Greek alphabet, representing the sound [p]. In the system of Greek numerals it has a value of 80. It was derived from the Phoenician letter Pe.
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Iota (/aɪˈoʊtə/; uppercase Ι, lowercase ι; Greek: ιώτα) is the ninth letter of the Greek alphabet. It was derived from the Phoenician letter Yodh. In the system of Greek numerals, iota has a value of 10. Iota represents the sound [i]. In ancient Greek it occurred in both long [iː] and short [i] versions, but this distinction was lost in Koine Greek. Iota participated as the second element in falling diphthongs, with both long and short vowels as the first element. Where the first element was long, the iota was lost in pronunciation at an early date, and was written in polytonic orthography as iota subscript, in other words as a very small ι under the main vowel. The former diphthongs became digraphs for simple vowels in Koine Greek.
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Omega (capital: Ω, lowercase: ω; Greek ὦ, later ὦ μέγα, Modern Greek ωμέγα) is the 24th and last letter of the Greek alphabet. In the Greek numeric system/Isopsephy(Gematria), it has a value of 800. The word literally means "great O" (ō mega, mega meaning "great"), as opposed to omicron, which means "little O" (o mikron, micron meaning "little"). As the last letter of the Greek alphabet, Omega is often used to denote the last, the end, or the ultimate limit of a set, in contrast to alpha, the first letter of the Greek alphabet.
Omega is also quite well-known to be used in media depicting an apocalypse or crisis.

So we have some shared bits of information:
Pi:
  • 16th Greek letter
  • represents "p"
  • value of 80

Iota:
  • 9th Greek letter
  • represents "i"
  • value of 10

Omega:
  • 24th Greek letter (and last)
  • represents "O" (not o)
  • value of 800

Greek letters: 16-9-24
Represents: p-i-O
Values: 80-10-800

Addition of Greek letters: 49
Subtraction: -17
Multiplication: 3,456
Division: 0.074R

Addition of values: 890
Subtraction: -730
Multiplication: 640,000
Division: 0.01

...not sure if this helps anything, but it's worth a shot

red_lion 14-10-18 08:23

:ponder:

Could it be a reference to the puzzle in Tomb Raider 1 with the Greek letters? ( I don't know which greek letters it was)

Or could the Greek letters a reference to the names of developers of Core?

JoelCaesar 15-10-18 04:01

Maybe its just design aesthetic and there aren't any reasons behind it.

Talos Munera 17-10-18 15:14

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Originally Posted by rbfeik (Post 7998516)
Does anybody know the reason for the "Π Ι Ω", Pi, Iota, & Omega letters that appear on the wall in several places of the The Library of Alexandria?

In Modern Greek, the verb "Pino" (Πίνω) and the Future "Tha pio" (Θα πιώ ΘΑ ΠΙΩ) means "Drink " and its future. And I laugh every time I see it it's funny XD

trfan16 18-10-18 03:18

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Originally Posted by JoelCaesar (Post 7999613)
Maybe its just design aesthetic and there aren't any reasons behind it.

This would be my guess to. Although there was an pretty interesting topic here a while ago about how some of the textures in TRIV are based off real world architecture and works of art. So I wouldn't be surprised if there was an reasoning behind the Greek letters being included.

CroftManiac05 19-10-18 08:34

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Originally Posted by Talos Munera (Post 8000870)
And I laugh every time I see it it's funny XD

hahaha me too!
"πιω"... Τι θα πιεις ρε μαναρακι? :vlol:

Talos Munera 20-10-18 19:50

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Originally Posted by CroftManiac05 (Post 8001662)
hahaha me too!
"πιω"... Τι θα πιεις ρε μαναρακι? :vlol:

Μια μπίρα αχαχ λωλ τι ειναι μαναρακι; Δεν ειμαι ελληνιδα μα ιταλιδα μαθήτρια ελληνικών! :p

They play a little game on the Pio word, which in modern Greek is "Drink". Here, we drink a beer XD (but im not greek, i'm italian, sorry adelfe XD)

CroftManiac05 20-10-18 20:09

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Originally Posted by Talos Munera (Post 8002414)
Μια μπίρα αχαχ λωλ τι ειναι μαναρακι; Δεν ειμαι ελληνιδα μα ιταλιδα μαθήτρια ελληνικών! :p

They play a little game on the Pio word, which in modern Greek is "Drink". Here, we drink a beer XD (but im not greek, i'm italian, sorry adelfe XD)

Μια λαϊκή έκφραση είναι :p
Sorry νόμιζα ότι ήσουν από Ελλάδα.

Talos Munera 20-10-18 20:24

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Originally Posted by CroftManiac05 (Post 8002421)
Μια λαϊκή έκφραση είναι :p
Sorry νόμιζα ότι ήσουν από Ελλάδα.

Slang? :D

CroftManiac05 21-10-18 11:06

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Originally Posted by Talos Munera (Post 8002426)
Slang? :D

Correct!! :D

Anyway, I think those 3 letters are there for decoration only.
There is no connection between the word itself and the level.

Talos Munera 21-10-18 15:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by CroftManiac05 (Post 8002625)
Correct!! :D

Anyway, I think those 3 letters are there for decoration only.
There is no connection between the word itself and the level.

Yes, I think so, too... I don't think it's koinè, nor even medieval Greek

Boobandie 22-10-18 23:17

Maybe it's a joke (if it isn't just random decoration), the library is a kind of university after all. Having "Drink" plastered all over the place would be fitting for academics.

TR-Freak 25-10-18 10:48

PI OMEGA

PIEGA:p

red_lion 03-01-20 15:27

I don't know if it is allowed to react on an old post.
But I was looking at the collection of the British museum because of some pictures of Lara's home in TR1.

I found this.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Room_69,_British_Museum#/media/File:Flickr_-_Nic's_events_-_British_Museum_with_Cory_and_Mary,_6_Sep_2007_-_331.jpg

Votive relief for the cure of a bad leg, inscription “Tyche [dedicated this] to Asclepios and Hygieia as a thanking gift”. Marble, ca. 100–200 AD. Found in 1828 in a sanctuary in Milos, Ægean Sea.

It has a PIO in it. But it is part of a word Asklepio (asclepius). Reminds me a little of Monty Python with the leg.. :D

The Great Chi 08-01-20 11:59

Possibly ...... Drink to the future? :D

It's all Greek to me :p

Talos Munera 09-01-20 13:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by red_lion (Post 8162846)
It has a PIO in it. But it is part of a word Asklepio (asclepius).

It could be, actually... they took as textures part of another word, and it would make sense. Because "pio" alone means something else.

AskliPIO (with omega)


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