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LNSNHGTDS 23-05-13 16:41

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Originally Posted by spyrostr (Post 6796652)
ikr? :( i dont know what's happening .... Lara and Tomb Raider is still here and more successful than ever
this is the only thing that matters...

all the rest is like :random trfmember : oh some people hate the game i'll follow like a sheep and i'll raise my posts number

Exactly! And it's not even worthy of falling under the TRF drama category...

Gregori 23-05-13 16:42

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Originally Posted by spyrostr (Post 6796652)
ikr? :( i dont know what's happening .... Lara and Tomb Raider is still here and more successful than ever
this is the only thing that matters...

all the rest is like :random trfmember : oh some people hate the game i'll follow like a sheep and i'll raise my posts number

Lara and Tomb Raider in name only. There hasn't been a real Tomb Raider with Lara Croft since 2003

larafan25 23-05-13 16:43

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Originally Posted by Gregori (Post 6796649)
She was :'( all the time through. Old Lara wouldn't have done that

Do we really know that though? We can only assume, really. But both classic Lara and reboot Lara experience trauma that effects their character and intends to provoke a change in lifestyle or perspective.

I try looking at Lara's strength through 2 dimensions.

The first dimension is pre-truamatic experience. Where she is still a strong character, she climbs mountains in her spare time, apparently. For the thrill maybe? (This is actually a reboot thing). And that in itself is bad ass, for a "civilian". These experiences incite thrill and danger, but it's not live or die, it's not as severe as the truama experience each Lara encounters.

Then of course there is the strength that comes through the real truamatic experience, and just because this experience tests and breaks Lara, it doesn't mean she wasn't a strong person to begin with. She's brave, she's smart, she's strong, but she has a limit prior to being exposed to the worst.

It could have been the same for classic Lara. Who was she prior to surviving the plane wreck?

People often use young Lara from TR4 and TR5 as a gauge for how fearless, and how much of "herself" was already there when she was young, prior to the plane crash. But I still think they are 2 different dimensions. No doubt there is real danger involved in what young Lara experienced, however the tone never tried to convey what the reboot does.

Of course you can accept that, if your Lara is more of a "cartoon" (for lack of a better word) then she was brave, and the same person in the young Lara levels.

But if that is not what you expect from your Lara, that she does grow and isn't as simplistic, then shouldn't this new portrayal of Lara be starting some fire?

spyrostr 23-05-13 16:48

has anyone seen this?


Gregori 23-05-13 16:51

Should be firing...

skylark1121 23-05-13 16:53

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Originally Posted by Spong (Post 6796629)
Tomb Raider may or may not be dead. I could tell you which, but it's a secret and I'd have to kill you all afterwards :pi:

:vlol:

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Originally Posted by Gregori (Post 6796642)
She can't even protect herself. Too busy whimpering

What do you mean? :confused: Are we talking about the same Lara who pulled a spike out of her side, bit a guy's ear off, shot him in the face, walked through a pool of blood, etc, etc.
She did indeed whimper, but she also protected herself.

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Originally Posted by Gregori (Post 6796649)
She was :'( all the time through. Old Lara wouldn't have done that

And that's why old Lara was such a 2d character. People do have emotions, and anybody who was put into the situation that Lara had to go through would be an emotional wreck, but I guess there are people who don't like for games or certain characters to actually express them....

Gregori 23-05-13 16:56

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Originally Posted by skylark1121 (Post 6796665)



And that's why old Lara was such a 2d character. People do have emotions, and anybody who was put into the situation that Lara had to go through would be an emotional wreck, but I guess there are people who don't like for games or certain characters to actually express them....

Its a cookie cutter hollywood way to add so called "emotions" to the character. I can imagine them doing this to a perfectly good character like indiana jones and i shudder. It cliched version of emotions and humanity

larafan25 23-05-13 16:58

But experiences do change people, and this experience, this landmark in Lara's origins has always existed, since the beginning as far as I've known.

Spong 23-05-13 17:01

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Originally Posted by larafan25 (Post 6796679)
...this landmark in Lara's origins has always existed, since the beginning as far as I've known.

Since the reboot, it's the only experience that exists.

skylark1121 23-05-13 17:05

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Originally Posted by Gregori (Post 6796661)
Should, be firing...

I wouldn't know why they should be firing the level designers. I thought it was the best level design TR has seen in years....

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Originally Posted by Gregori (Post 6796673)
It cliched version of emotions and humanity

Hm. This seems really vague, and it seems like more of an attempt to say something bad about the game than to actually provide a good counterpoint? I mean, if you feel that way, back it up with something from the game that gave you that feeling... so it seems less vague, you know? :p


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