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fallenangle 22-06-21 12:14

The start of Nevada is a masterpiece of game artwork and design; within the limitations of the PS era graphics it is amazing what they achieved.

It oozes atmosphere aided by the simple but really effective ambient audio; blazing sun, hot and dry desert to begin with, that is relieved with the still sunlit but water filled ravine and waterfall, the cool cavern at the top of that and then out into the sun again and so on.

You almost feel the heat and feel refreshed by the water; that's how good it is.

Have to say that hating London and Antarctica is just wrong; together they're practically half the game.

Frceghst8 10-07-21 23:29

Tr 3
 
Sorry about the double post.

Frceghst8 10-07-21 23:32

Tr 3
 
Ahh yes, I remember this game with fondness and frustration.
How did the raptors get out of the lost valley in TR 1, and further how did they get to south America?:confused::
My favorite levels are south american jungles and Antarctica.

fallenangle 11-07-21 14:57

The Lost Valley was in South America, somewhere in the Peruvian Andes.

The South Seas Islands are meant to be part of what was left of sub-tropical Antarctica after the meteor struck. The dinosaurs were there because back then it was connected to what is now South America all as one giant super continent (Gondwana) or part of the later larger continental land masses, like Pangaea, when the dinosaurs were around.

Frceghst8 11-07-21 23:37

About the raptors in the south seas island
 
Good point Fallenangle, I suppose they could have trekked from Peru down to coast then took a little swim to the islands. :tmb:

fallenangle 12-07-21 13:26

Its where the raptors went for their holidays, munch a few Australian soldiers and learn to climb trees. :)

Greenapple968 12-07-21 16:40

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Originally Posted by fallenangle (Post 8309402)
Its where the raptors went for their holidays, munch a few Australian soldiers and learn to climb trees. :)

The raptors do enjoy munching the soldiers, but the soldiers don't always seem to mind:


fallenangle 13-07-21 01:12

LOL. I've not seen that happen before.

Greenapple968 13-07-21 12:02

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Originally Posted by fallenangle (Post 8309572)
LOL. I've not seen that happen before.

Games can be a bit buggy at times. :p

Frceghst8 13-07-21 22:49

Just recalled
 
I just remembered something about TR 3 that I liked. The funky mutant spider boss with a human head. You had to keep your distance from it and shoot it with either a desert eagle or the bazooka. Lol, I remember how times I got cooked by the blue flames it shoots.:p

Greenapple968 13-07-21 23:03

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Originally Posted by Frceghst8 (Post 8309727)
I just remembered something about TR 3 that I liked. The funky mutant spider boss with a human head. You had to keep your distance from it and shoot it with either a desert eagle or the bazooka. Lol, I remember how times I got cooked by the blue flames it shoots.:p

Whether or not he shoots at you is determined by whereabouts you're located; there are some spots where he won't shoot at you, which makes him less of a threat.

Frceghst8 13-07-21 23:27

To greenapple 968
 
Lol, so true, so true. I definitely learned to keep a distance from the beastie.

fallenangle 14-07-21 12:05

Trying doing that fight with standard pistols only, no saves. That's hardcore. :)

Greenapple968 14-07-21 15:06

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Originally Posted by fallenangle (Post 8309832)
Trying doing that fight with standard pistols only, no saves. That's hardcore. :)

I'm sure it's possible with enough patience. :p

Mek 14-07-21 19:06

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Originally Posted by fallenangle (Post 8309832)
Trying doing that fight with standard pistols only, no saves. That's hardcore. :)

I imagine it isn't good if he collapses near a tunnel with an artefact. It may be hard to plan how to shoot with the pistols such that he is stunned in the right place.

fallenangle 15-07-21 02:29

I've actually done it twice and a third time but with saves. Its satisfying when you do manage it but the number of times I had to repeat it, even on the second, eventually successful, attempt was probably 20+.

The worst time to fail is when sprinting round the lava whilst finishing Willard off a couple of pistol rounds at a time and just misjudging the angle and slipping down into it.

There's another hardcore thing to try in that boss fight area and that is to get out without killing Willard. You can't complete the level if he's not dead but it is a tough challenge getting up the 'ladder' whilst he is stunned and into the nearest corner without getting hit.

The 'ladder' is very awkward because the block at the edge is only partially climbable. So you need to judge the point at which you shimmy off the 'ladder' along the platform very precisely.

The number of times you will mess up that shimmy and get hit by Willard's attack as you're climbing up will be in the 20+ region unless you're very lucky or very skillful.

Greenapple968 15-07-21 07:22

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Originally Posted by fallenangle (Post 8309974)
I've actually done it twice and a third time but with saves. Its satisfying when you do manage it but the number of times I had to repeat it, even on the second, eventually successful, attempt was probably 20+.

The worst time to fail is when sprinting round the lava whilst finishing Willard off a couple o pistol rounds at a time and just misjudging the angle and slipping down into it.

There's another hardcore thing to try in that boss fight area and that is to get out without killing Willard. You can't complete the level if he's not dead but it is a tough challenge getting up the 'ladder' whilst he is stunned and into the nearest corner without getting hit.

The 'ladder' is very awkward because the block at the edge is only partially climbable. So you need to judge the point at which you shimmy off the 'ladder' along the platform very precisely.

The number of times you will mess up that shimmy and get hit by Willard's attack as you're climbing up will be in the 20+ region unless you're very lucky or very skillful.

Bravo for succeeding at it. :tmb: I personally have never even tried it. :p

Frceghst8 16-07-21 22:52

Getting out without killing Willard
 
I've actually gotten out of the pit where you face off with the final boss. The game ended normally without a hitch via ps 1.

Greenapple968 17-07-21 01:09

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Originally Posted by Frceghst8 (Post 8310250)
I've actually gotten out of the pit where you face off with the final boss. The game ended normally without a hitch via ps 1.

I also managed to complete Meteorite Cavern without killing Willard; I uploaded a video of myself doing it back in 2015.

Frceghst8 17-07-21 02:14

To greenapple 968
 
Nicely done greenapple. I'm confident that anyone can accomplish the same feat with enough practice.

Greenapple968 17-07-21 16:58

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Originally Posted by Frceghst8 (Post 8310259)
Nicely done greenapple. I'm confident that anyone can accomplish the same feat with enough practice.

Thanks. I think it's quite easy to do, personally.

Frceghst8 17-07-21 20:11

Stuff I liked about TR 3
 
Hmm, I liked the desert eagle it killed enemies pretty quick, the bazooka even though it was slow to load, it blew enemies apart nicely. I liked Lara's outfit in the Nevada levels. The boss battle against Sophia Lee + Willard the spider thing.

Greenapple968 18-07-21 14:16

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Originally Posted by Frceghst8 (Post 8310349)
Hmm, I liked the desert eagle it killed enemies pretty quick, the bazooka even though it was slow to load, it blew enemies apart nicely. I liked Lara's outfit in the Nevada levels. The boss battle against Sophia Lee + Willard the spider thing.

I believe that the Desert Eagle is the best gun when you consider its power and speed. I wasn't that keen on the Rocket Launcher due to its dodgy accuracy.

Frceghst8 18-07-21 14:36

^ Huh, so it's a rocket launcher not a bazooka? You're right the aim is dodgy. Too bad they didn't bring back the M16 from TR2 I liked that gun better than the mp5

Greenapple968 18-07-21 14:38

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Originally Posted by Frceghst8 (Post 8310470)
^ Huh, so it's a rocket launcher not a bazooka? You're right the aim is dodgy. Too bad they didn't bring back the M16 from TR2 I liked that gun better than the mp5

In the game, it's referred to as a Rocket Launcher. I also prefer the M16 to the MP5.

Frceghst8 18-07-21 14:51

^ Hell, the Uzis from TR 1-2 would have been better than the mp5.

Greenapple968 18-07-21 22:03

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Originally Posted by Frceghst8 (Post 8310477)
^ Hell, the Uzis from TR 1-2 would have been better than the mp5.

The MP5 has the advantage of taking aim on enemies from further away; with the MP5 you can shoot enemies from a greater distance than the other guns. This is also the case with the M16 in TR2. Because of this, I do quite admire the M16 and MP5, not to mention that they're two of the more powerful weapons when you account for how fast they are.

Frceghst8 18-07-21 23:57

True, but I still don't care for the mp5.

Greenapple968 19-07-21 00:18

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Originally Posted by Frceghst8 (Post 8310579)
True, but I still don't care for the mp5.

Which is fine; you have to use the guns that you personally want to use. There are some people who won't use anything other than the pistols.

Frceghst8 19-07-21 01:37

So true. Getting back to what I was saying before the gun rant; Sofia Lee and the spider Willard are my favorite Boss battles.

dudedudu 09-08-21 19:55

TR3 was my very first experience ever with Tomb Raider.
I'll never stop admiring this one. The ambiences, the soundtrack, I don't have anymore words that could describe the brilliant work!

Greenapple968 10-08-21 11:59

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Originally Posted by dudedudu (Post 8314579)
TR3 was my very first experience ever with Tomb Raider.
I'll never stop admiring this one. The ambiences, the soundtrack, I don't have anymore words that could describe the brilliant work!

TR1 was my first experience, then it was TR2 and TR3. Even though TR1 was my first experience, TR3 is my favourite TR game.

dudedudu 10-08-21 13:45

I just hope one day I could have more time to finally dive into Level Editor. Unite the game design with my little musical knowledge, inspired mainly by the overall aesthetics of the TR3.

lance6439 07-11-21 01:59


Celephais 07-11-21 08:30

I completed TR 3 a couple of days ago. I'd finished it many years ago but I recently started to replay the classics.

I'd say it's my second favourite after TR2. The story line is interesting, the music was great, the new graphics added atmosphere, and honestly I can't think of any other game with such a huge variety in levels. From being a prisoner in a high security compound to being in an abandoned underground station, to unplugging giant sinks in the South Pacific, to split second swims to submersibles in freezing Antarctic water. It really is amazingly diverse. I was never that keen on the new crouch ability to be honest, but the monkey swinging was a great addition.

But's it's definitely too hard. Even after completing TR 2 (itself a pretty difficult game) I found myself having to resort to walkthroughs to understand what to do. Some of the difficulty is in level design- the Masonic temple and it's maze of closing doors is a good example. Or the Crash Site thing with blowing away parts of the wall with the heavy weapon. Very hard to figure out. Admittedly some parts that I initially thought unfair, like the penny ticket booth on Aldych just require attention to detail, (The penny ticket booth has "1"written on it, all the other booths have "2".) Other things like the underwater blades in Lost City of Tinnos are just extremely hard to get the timing right. And that's with the PC version,l where you could save anywhere. I can't imagine anyone finishing the Playstation version with it's limited save crystal.

So after the incredible difficulty of TR 3, Eidos released the even harder TR 4:D

I know some people bemoan the lack of tombs in TR 2 and TR 3 but it wasn't that big a deal to me. TR 2 was my first experience and that's what I subconsciously expect TR to be like. But I can understand why some people who played TR 1 first might complain about the lack of tombs.

kaztor 21-12-21 20:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoomTraider (Post 8270175)
I've been playing the game (currently on RX Tech Mines) and does anyone else just really hate South Pacific???

Nasty traps, questionable depictions of Melanesian people (although it was the 90s I guess), no charm to the levels...

Saying that, I think Nevada might be my favourite location in the first 3 games. Amazing music, scenery, tense, atmospheric!

Nah Shes being seen as an intruder, basically.
People take things too seriously these days, imo.

piano_raider 31-12-21 15:29

Hello there!

Made some renders in Blender - Im no expert, but it was fun :) Maybe anyone recognizes the sceneries? ;)

https://abload.de/img/render_cycles_155zjx5.jpg

https://abload.de/img/render_163jel.jpg

https://abload.de/img/highland_reder_3lgjwy.jpg

https://abload.de/img/rendered_2hzj5u.jpg

Happy new year to all of you :grouphug:

TRExpertgamer 31-12-21 15:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by piano_raider (Post 8337742)
Hello there!

Made some renders in Blender - Im no expert, but it was fun :) Maybe anyone recognizes the sceneries? ;)

https://abload.de/img/render_cycles_155zjx5.jpg

https://abload.de/img/render_163jel.jpg

https://abload.de/img/highland_reder_3lgjwy.jpg

https://abload.de/img/rendered_2hzj5u.jpg

Happy new year to all of you :grouphug:

Wow!!! You did great to make those renders!!! They look very amazing!!! :D And happy new year to you too!!!:cool:

Delamo1999 31-01-22 16:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Celephais (Post 8329552)
I completed TR 3 a couple of days ago. I'd finished it many years ago but I recently started to replay the classics.

I'd say it's my second favourite after TR2. The story line is interesting, the music was great, the new graphics added atmosphere, and honestly I can't think of any other game with such a huge variety in levels. From being a prisoner in a high security compound to being in an abandoned underground station, to unplugging giant sinks in the South Pacific, to split second swims to submersibles in freezing Antarctic water. It really is amazingly diverse. I was never that keen on the new crouch ability to be honest, but the monkey swinging was a great addition.

But's it's definitely too hard. Even after completing TR 2 (itself a pretty difficult game) I found myself having to resort to walkthroughs to understand what to do. Some of the difficulty is in level design- the Masonic temple and it's maze of closing doors is a good example. Or the Crash Site thing with blowing away parts of the wall with the heavy weapon. Very hard to figure out. Admittedly some parts that I initially thought unfair, like the penny ticket booth on Aldych just require attention to detail, (The penny ticket booth has "1"written on it, all the other booths have "2".) Other things like the underwater blades in Lost City of Tinnos are just extremely hard to get the timing right. And that's with the PC version,l where you could save anywhere. I can't imagine anyone finishing the Playstation version with it's limited save crystal.

So after the incredible difficulty of TR 3, Eidos released the even harder TR 4:D

I know some people bemoan the lack of tombs in TR 2 and TR 3 but it wasn't that big a deal to me. TR 2 was my first experience and that's what I subconsciously expect TR to be like. But I can understand why some people who played TR 1 first might complain about the lack of tombs.

I love this game! It has many tricky parts that I had to do over many times, like several timed doors. I got stuck in a long waterway that I had to redo too many times to count. However, the raptor fight with the rocket launcher is so fun! The places we get to go to are amazing! How about seeing an alien in a lab? Incredible! The boss fights rock, including the statues that come to life in India. I could go on and on about how great this game is. Let's keep this thread alive.

Delamo1999 31-01-22 16:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenapple968 (Post 8314686)
TR1 was my first experience, then it was TR2 and TR3. Even though TR1 was my first experience, TR3 is my favourite TR game.



I can't wait until they remake TRIII! This game rocks and it is a new adventure each time I play it. Sure I get stuck at timed doors, but the experience is amazing! I plan to play this game again after I finish this time.


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