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Stevo505 28-05-13 23:53

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Originally Posted by dream raider (Post 6802251)
Someone hasn't read the article... :mis:

I did.

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She explained that she is contemplating leaving the industry for another where her creative aspirations can be met.
She should stop contemplating and just do something else already :p

dream raider 28-05-13 23:56

I'd rather the game industry expand a little and allow her (and other writers) to fulfill her creative aspirations, without having to look elsewhere. Why should the gaming industry be inferior in this aspect?

Melonie Tomb Raider 28-05-13 23:57

I'm not a huge fan of games focusing too much on story. :/

But then again, I did like Kingdom Hearts and Final Fantasy X for their stories.

Stevo505 29-05-13 00:01

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Originally Posted by Melonie Tomb Raider (Post 6802264)
I'm not a huge fan of games focusing too much on story. :/

But then again, I did like Kingdom Hearts and Final Fantasy X for their stories.

Same here. Stories can be interesting, but I hate when they try to act like the story is more important than the actual game. I don't play games for the plot, I play games for fun and exciting gameplay. If I want a good story I'll read a book or watch a movie.

dream raider 29-05-13 00:01

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Originally Posted by Melonie Tomb Raider (Post 6802264)
I'm not a huge fan of games focusing too much on story. :/

But then again, I did like Kingdom Hearts and Final Fantasy X for their stories.

I don't think it's about the story overshadowing the game, just that the story is given enough time and care to work with the game (rather than around it) and be more fleshed out in general.

spyrostr 29-05-13 00:06

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Originally Posted by Stevo505 (Post 6802269)
Same here. Stories can be interesting, but I hate when they try to act like the story is more important than the actual game. I don't play games for the plot, I play games for fun and exciting gameplay. If I want a good story I'll read a book or watch a movie.

in KH the story is equally important along with the gameplay

Linoshi Croft 29-05-13 00:11

I think a game can equally have a great gameplay and a great plot. It's just about balance.

Rai 29-05-13 00:13

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Originally Posted by dream raider (Post 6802271)
I don't think it's about the story overshadowing the game, just that the story is given enough time and care to work with the game (rather than around it) and be more fleshed out in general.

I agree. For me, games are meant to be entertainment and I feel that the story is a part of the package. It shouldn't overshadow the gameplay, of course, but a good fleshed out story can help to enhance the experience.

It's a shame that Susan O'Connor feels that she doesn't have enough freedom with her writing to be as expressive as she'd wish. Rhianna Pratchett also feels similarly, I believe, having delivered a speech on the subject and having talked about gaming writers in interviews.

_Ninja_ 29-05-13 00:16

In order to have the freedom you need to be the main designer as well as the writer. Kind of like Ken Levine. He is able to decide how to balance the narrative needs with everything else.

Rai 29-05-13 00:24

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Originally Posted by _Ninja_ (Post 6802291)
In order to have the freedom you need to be the main designer as well as the writer. Kind of like Ken Levine. He is able to decide how to balance the narrative needs with everything else.

It shouldn't have to be that way though. Rhianna has said that writers are often brought in after the main plot has already been written and they're brought in to tidy up the mess or to just add fillers or something and often only have very short amounts of time to do their stuff. But she added that writers (in games) are beginning to be taken more seriously as games' stories are getting more attention. I'm greatly paraphrasing here. If I could find the video I'm thinking of or an article, I would. It's late here now though, and I'm about to go off to bed.

TRItheMaster 29-05-13 04:06

I finished my Classic mod. :o

http://i.picresize.com/images/2013/05/28/65x0m.png

Melonie Tomb Raider 29-05-13 04:14

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Originally Posted by TRItheMaster (Post 6802468)
I finished my Classic mod. :o

[img]http://i.picresize.com/images/2013/05/28/65x0m.png

Nice mod - I love the shorts!

Didn't realize how egg shaped Lara's head was until I saw this though :S Mind taking a pic with the glasses on her head?

Lara_Fan1 29-05-13 09:45

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Originally Posted by tomee (Post 6801761)
It's still Eidos Montréal that released the MP levels, not CD. CD is probably focusing on their new games, that's why they weren't bothered to make much SP DLC, in my opinion.

Surely CD has a say in what MP DLC gets released?

Anyway; I've come to accept the fact SP is getting nothing. Which is a huge shame.

Linoshi Croft 29-05-13 12:12

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Originally Posted by TRItheMaster (Post 6802468)

It's good. Though for personal preference I just don't like reboot Lara in shorts. :pi: it just seems wrong to me. Though well done! It looks great. I wish I could make mods.

tomee 29-05-13 15:58

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Originally Posted by Lara_Fan1 (Post 6802655)
Surely CD has a say in what MP DLC gets released?

Anyway; I've come to accept the fact SP is getting nothing. Which is a huge shame.

And why on Earth would CD hold Eidos Montréal back and disallow them to make DLC? Money is money and EM just happens to have time to develop more maps. It wouldn't sound sensible if CD tried to hold them back.

Lara_Fan1 30-05-13 09:32

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Originally Posted by tomee (Post 6802962)
And why on Earth would CD hold Eidos Montréal back and disallow them to make DLC? Money is money and EM just happens to have time to develop more maps. It wouldn't sound sensible if CD tried to hold them back.

No, I didn't say CD will hold them back I'm just saying surely they have the right to say 'No don't release that'. Obviously they won't like.

tomee 30-05-13 13:26

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Originally Posted by Lara_Fan1 (Post 6803761)
No, I didn't say CD will hold them back I'm just saying surely they have the right to say 'No don't release that'. Obviously they won't like.

But that's my point. It would be illogac if CD tried to stop EM from releasing DLC.

Niveus 30-05-13 14:08

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Originally Posted by Lara_Fan1 (Post 6803761)
No, I didn't say CD will hold them back I'm just saying surely they have the right to say 'No don't release that'. Obviously they won't like.

No, unfortunately only the holder of the rights to TR has that say, and CD don't hold any rights to TR whatsoever. They are held by Square. Square tells both studios what to make, although I think obviously there would be some conversation between the two studios.

tomee 30-05-13 18:49

Has anyone else seen Crazy Croft 20? It's hilarious, maybe the best of all. :vlol:

Stevo505 30-05-13 18:53

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Originally Posted by tomee (Post 6804175)
Has anyone else seen Crazy Croft 20? It's hilarious, maybe the best of all. :vlol:

Yes! "I'm not dying here!...I'm dying there."

tomee 30-05-13 18:57

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Originally Posted by Stevo505 (Post 6804180)
Yes! "I'm not dying here!...I'm dying there."

Himiko could summon drag queens! :vlol:
Oh and when Lara is captured by Sam and Mathias. I still can't :'D :vlol:

klona 30-05-13 19:08

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Originally Posted by tomee (Post 6804175)
Has anyone else seen Crazy Croft 20? It's hilarious, maybe the best of all. :vlol:

Saw it. xD

AimlessThunder 30-05-13 19:34

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Originally Posted by doppeL (Post 6803888)
The Truth

Hoope you like! :)

:cln:

larafan25 30-05-13 20:29

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Originally Posted by tomee (Post 6804175)
Has anyone else seen Crazy Croft 20? It's hilarious, maybe the best of all. :vlol:

"The stories about Queen Himiko say she could summon drag queens..."

lance6439 30-05-13 21:43

So.Much.Potential.


Billy959 30-05-13 21:48

altho I agree the game had potential,why is this in here? :p

lance6439 30-05-13 21:49

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Originally Posted by Billy959 (Post 6804444)
altho I agree the game had potential,why is this in here? :p

Isn't this basically the general TR thread? for all TR games?

Soul 30-05-13 21:50

"Remember when you showed me your vagina?"
"Hahaha - I was 5 years old - it was my first time!" :vlol:

Lara_Fan1 30-05-13 21:53

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Originally Posted by Soul (Post 6804450)
"Remember when you showed me your vagina?"
"Hahaha - that's 5 years old!" :vlol:

Didn't she say 'I was 5 years old, that was my first time'?

SpyrosMonster 30-05-13 21:54

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Originally Posted by lance6439 (Post 6804439)
So.Much.Potential.


This is so amazing I want to cry. :(

Soul 30-05-13 21:55

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Originally Posted by Lara_Fan1 (Post 6804453)
Didn't she say 'I was 5 years old, that was my first time'?

Indeed...I blame Camilla's accent :D

trfanX34 30-05-13 21:56

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Originally Posted by tomee (Post 6804175)
Has anyone else seen Crazy Croft 20? It's hilarious, maybe the best of all. :vlol:

Omg I just watched it. I'm DYING. :vlol:

"I'm really glad Grim's dead!"
"Stories about Himiko say she could summon drag queens!"

Lara_Fan1 30-05-13 22:00

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Originally Posted by Soul (Post 6804457)
Indeed...I blame Camilla's accent :D

Haha, it's not that bad.

Melonie Tomb Raider 30-05-13 22:06

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Originally Posted by SpyrosMonster (Post 6804455)
This is so amazing I want to cry. :(

I spent about an hour last night reading AOD articles and what the plans were for the next games. It was so sad :(

SpyrosMonster 30-05-13 22:08

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Originally Posted by Melonie Tomb Raider (Post 6804471)
I spent about an hour last night reading AOD articles and what the plans were for the next games. It was so sad :(

Ok.
I'm writing that ****ing exam tomorrow morning and I'll be playing AOD for the next 10 days! I need that game in my life :mad:

motoleo 30-05-13 22:11

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Originally Posted by Melonie Tomb Raider (Post 6804471)
I spent about an hour last night reading AOD articles and what the plans were for the next games. It was so sad :(

Every couple years I always end up doing that. It's great research.

trfanX34 30-05-13 22:14

Watching that video has made me want to replay AOD now ;__; I adore that game.

Billy959 30-05-13 22:15

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Originally Posted by lance6439 (Post 6804447)
Isn't this basically the general TR thread? for all TR games?

I thought it was Tomb Raider as in TR2013!

anyway! Aod will always remain on the top of my list when it comes to Tomb Raider!!!:hug:

spyrostr 30-05-13 22:15

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Originally Posted by Melonie Tomb Raider (Post 6804471)
I spent about an hour last night reading AOD articles and what the plans were for the next games. It was so sad :(

the most sad thing about AOD was her last smile in the ending cutscene...it was like she was saying goodbye to us.....
but thankfully she is still here and i could see a glimpse of what she'll become in the ending scene of the new one...
For me both Laras had a similar smile towards the ending the only difference is that AOD Lara was leaving us and TR reboot Lara is ready to come back and become the tomb raider i know

Spong 30-05-13 22:18

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Originally Posted by lance6439 (Post 6804439)
So.Much.Potential.

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It's like a poor man's Splinter Cell, and Sam Fisher has been replaced by a whiny, butt hurt emo girl.


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