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slavo120 25-04-12 21:57
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Originally Posted by larafan25 (Post 6130988)
Hmm...if TR is all over issues in May (June issues)...then I wonder why they didn't do a tease...
Tomb Raider was in almost all games magazine all over the world last year, so maybe this year CD will be make hype in May and release some screenshots (trailer????pls god :D )etc only online through their website(tomb raider website)..before E3.............i do not expect some magazines exclusive news or something like that because it don´t make hype all over the world, only in country when will be magazines publish


....possible some ign,gamespot,eurogamer exclusive preview or gametrailers first exclusive reveal gameplay trailer be make sense

larafan25 25-04-12 22:00
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Originally Posted by Lukass (Post 6131007)
Yes, there were teaser because Tomb Raider was on the covers, right? I doubt TR will cover the magazines again this year, but there still could be info and new screenshots. And if it's there there MUST be a sign Tomb Raider on the cover, there must be a mention that there's something new TR related in the magazine.
OOOOOOHHHHHH!

So TR won't be the cover story, but will be featured in the magazine!

Sweet, this sounds plausible.

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Originally Posted by Mikky (Post 6131008)
Oh, we are. There is no way CD would go to E3 without first reminding gamers about TR. It would be really stupid if they did, imo.
Well I'm sure they could do some stupid things, but I hope you're right and we get TR info in magazines in May.

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Originally Posted by slavo120 (Post 6131010)
Tomb Raider was in almost all games magazine all over the world last year, so maybe this year CD will be make hype in May and release some screenshots (trailer????pls god :D )etc only online through their website(tomb raider website)..before E3.............i do not expect some magazines exclusive news or something like that because it don´t make hype all over the world, only in country when will be magazines publish
But those magazines were all over the world last year.

slavo120 25-04-12 22:03
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Originally Posted by larafan25 (Post 6131011)
But those magazines were all over the world last year.
yeah but if they want make hype before E3, more make sense some possible ign,gamespot,eurogamer etc. exclusive preview or gametrailers first exclusive gameplay trailer reveal.......on the magazines is too late

Alexander990 25-04-12 22:03
The cause of extension in releasing new stuff might also be the leaked footage. Perhaps they really wanted to release it but since it was leaked, they refused.

larafan25 25-04-12 22:03
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Originally Posted by slavo120 (Post 6131013)
yeah but if they want make hype before E3, more make sense some possible ign,gamespot,eurogamer etc. exclusive preview or gametrailers first exclusive gameplay trailer reveal.......on the magazines is too late
If TR is in magazines in May it would be the same time last year that TR was in magazines.

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Originally Posted by Alexander990 (Post 6131014)
The cause of extension in releasing new stuff might also be the leaked footage. Perhaps they really wanted to release it but since it was leaked, they refused.
That's silly of them, if it's the case.

If they were going to release that full footage they should have even though it was leaked, so people could properly see the footage in HD and full length the way it was meant to be seen.

I also don't understand the purpose of showing that content behind closed doors to tons of people and allowing them to talk about it, yet not releasing it.

Lukass 25-04-12 22:05
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Originally Posted by Alexander990 (Post 6131014)
The cause of extension in releasing new stuff might also be the leaked footage. Perhaps they really wanted to release it but since it was leaked, they refused.
This is what we always thought :tmb:. We could see the gameplay in HD and we could also see the wolf attacking Lara, we could see all the way up to the wolf's lair. But, because it leaked, we got nothing.

Stevo505 25-04-12 22:06
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Originally Posted by Lukass (Post 6130950)
I'm so nervous...

We're not that far from 10th May when the June magazine issues are going to be out, right? I know that when you want to pre-order the next issue, you go to the magazine website and there you can usually see the next cover. Hell, it's like the time they should reveal the covers. I don't expect TR to cover magazines, but there could be at least a sign Tomb Raider on the cover, if there's exclusive info inside right? I want to see it :pi: I wanna know if we're getting something in May :'( I can't anymore...:'( :vlol:
Omg... if Tomb Raider isn't in any magazines for June I am going to hit someone.

Alexander990 25-04-12 22:07
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Originally Posted by larafan25 (Post 6131015)
If TR is in magazines in May it would be the same time last year that TR was in magazines.



That's silly of them, if it's the case.

If they were going to release that full footage they should have even though it was leaked, so people could properly see the footage in HD and full length the way it was meant to be seen.

I also don't understand the purpose of showing that content behind closed doors to tons of people and allowing them to talk about it, yet not releasing it.
That is why i assume that it WAS actually intended to get released.

larafan25 25-04-12 22:11
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Originally Posted by Alexander990 (Post 6131019)
That is why i assume that it WAS actually intended to get released.
Well it makes no sense (on CD's part) to not release it just because it was leaked.

I mean they want it off the net, yet won't release it properly.

slavo120 25-04-12 22:12
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Originally Posted by Lukass (Post 6131017)
This is what we always thought :tmb:. We could see the gameplay in HD and we could also see the wolf attacking Lara, we could see all the way up to the wolf's lair. But, because it leaked, we got nothing.
but we saw only a few minutes what was leaked, not full demo what was present behind close door..so what is this, then ??punishment ??This is the behavior for fans ??this is "thanks" from CD ?

larafan25 25-04-12 22:18
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Originally Posted by slavo120 (Post 6131028)
but we saw only a few minutes what was leaked, not full demo what was present behind close door..so what is this, then ??punishment ??This is the behavior for fans ??this is "thanks" from CD ?
The only way it could look in this scenario would be punishment, however they'd be punishing the wrong people and I highly doubt it's punishment.

Alexander990 25-04-12 22:19
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Originally Posted by larafan25 (Post 6131026)
Well it makes no sense (on CD's part) to not release it just because it was leaked.

I mean they want it off the net, yet won't release it properly.
From what i remember Karl wasn't very happy about that, he even mentioned a website that constantly puts the footage or something. TO ME it sounds like this " you broke the rules, you get nothing" because the ones that were shown it behind closed doors were hardcore fans (I think) and so as we.
Well, I might be wrong but we cant deny it either.

P.s
That vid is on net right now huhuhu :mis::P

Stevo505 25-04-12 22:22
Leaks happen all the time, but companies don't keep things from the public just because of leaks.

Lukass 25-04-12 22:22
And yes, the leaked footage is on the internet and no1's bothered :pi:

Alexander990 25-04-12 22:25
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Originally Posted by Lukass (Post 6131048)
And yes, the leaked footage is on the internet and no1's bothered :pi:
Uhu correct :whi:

Weemanply109 25-04-12 23:15
Is there any magazine previews of Tomb Raider expected within the upcoming month?

Lukass 25-04-12 23:36
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Originally Posted by Weemanply109 (Post 6131121)
Is there any magazine previews of Tomb Raider expected within the upcoming month?
We (or at least I) hope so.

amiro1989 25-04-12 23:41
I know for a fact that Eidos Montréal has been giving all their E3 titles a rough QA session, in the past weeks, including titles from other main Square-Enix studios. Really long QA sessions, lasting complete weeks. I'm sure this mean they're gearing up for E3.

And I'm sure TR is part of that. ;)

aussie500 25-04-12 23:46
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Originally Posted by larafan25 (Post 6131015)
If TR is in magazines in May it would be the same time last year that TR was in magazines.



That's silly of them, if it's the case.

If they were going to release that full footage they should have even though it was leaked, so people could properly see the footage in HD and full length the way it was meant to be seen.

I also don't understand the purpose of showing that content behind closed doors to tons of people and allowing them to talk about it, yet not releasing it.
When did we ever get to see video footage to go with all the pre- release screenshots seen for the previews of the last nine games? Or any game for that matter. It should be pretty obvious why the media get to see it and we do not.

larafan25 25-04-12 23:47
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Originally Posted by aussie500 (Post 6131185)
When did we ever get to see video footage to go with all the pre- release screenshots seen for the previews of the last nine games? Or any game for that matter. It should be pretty obvious why the media get to see it and we do not.
It's not just the media.

They showed the Night Hub area to fans in Germany and I think Paris too.

The fans came back and spoke about what they saw.

Stevo505 25-04-12 23:48
Why the balls don't we get to see that? We're fans too D:

Lukass 25-04-12 23:49
I'm very curious what's going to be aussie500's answer to this^ D:

Stevo505 25-04-12 23:57
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Originally Posted by Lukass (Post 6131194)
I'm very curious what's going to be aussie500's answer to this^ D:
Why :p

slavo120 25-04-12 23:58
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Originally Posted by Stevo505 (Post 6131192)
Why the balls don't we get to see that? We're fans too D:
CD hate us and hate people who makes their sales:whi:

larafan25 25-04-12 23:59
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Originally Posted by Stevo505 (Post 6131192)
Why the balls don't we get to see that? We're fans too D:
Perhaps by releasing it to the public they feel as though they're being a one-trick pony but the thing is, that demo shows more platforming and isolation. In fact an article was written which said they probably should have shown that demo first.

Aside from it not being final product, I don't see why they couldn't release it.

I am willing to bet they won't ever, as once the next wave starts I'm sure it will all be new stuff.

Lukass 25-04-12 23:59
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Originally Posted by Stevo505 (Post 6131204)
Why :p
I meant larafan25's posts. Yeah, there are people who have seen the footage and more and they are TRF members, lol. Why the hell we weren't allowed to see it? :/

larafan25 26-04-12 00:00
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Originally Posted by Lukass (Post 6131210)
I meant larafan25's posts. Yeah, there are people who have seen the footage and more and they are TRF members, lol. Why the hell we weren't allowed to see it? :/
Though I don't think they were allowed to take pictures of it either, so it must have to do with the public seeing the actual content...but I still don't get it.

Lukass 26-04-12 00:01
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Originally Posted by larafan25 (Post 6131214)
Though I don't think they were allowed to take pictures of it either, so it must have to do with the public seeing the actual content...but I still don't get it.
They signed the NDA or I dunno how they call it. They were not supposed to talk about it, but they did.

larafan25 26-04-12 00:03
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Originally Posted by Lukass (Post 6131215)
They signed the NDA or I dunno how they call it. They were not supposed to talk about it, but they did.
R u sure?

They weren't supposed to talk about it?

We've heard every detail about the demo from multiple sources...yet they don't show it by now.

Spong 26-04-12 00:05
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Originally Posted by larafan25 (Post 6131188)
They showed the Night Hub area to fans in Germany and I think Paris too.
I get the sense that's such an erroneous name to use.

Lukass 26-04-12 00:08
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Originally Posted by larafan25 (Post 6131217)
R u sure?

They weren't supposed to talk about it?

We've heard every detail about the demo from multiple sources...yet they don't show it by now.
Yes, I think they've signed it. But then again, Gabi saw that footage too and wrote an article...um, it doesn't make sense to me now :/ IDK.

larafan25 26-04-12 00:08
^CD just need to freaking release it for crap sake.

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Originally Posted by Spong (Post 6131221)
I get the sense that's such an erroneous name to use.
I get the sense I'm going to have to Google that word...

Oh, no not mistaken or wrong.

It's the night hub, someone from CD coined the phrase.

It's a hub at night, I'm sure we'll see a few hubs at night.

Spong 26-04-12 00:14
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Originally Posted by larafan25 (Post 6131228)
I get the sense I'm going to have to Google that word...
LOL. I admire your honesty :tmb:

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Originally Posted by larafan25 (Post 6131228)
Oh, no not mistaken or wrong.

It's the night hub, someone from CD coined the phrase.

It's a hub at night, I'm sure we'll see a few hubs at night.
But the name suggests it's always night in that particular area. I thought the game definitely definitely definitely had dynamic time?

Lukass 26-04-12 00:14
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Originally Posted by Spong (Post 6131235)
But the name suggests it's always night in that particular area. I thought the game definitely definitely definitely had dynamic time?
I was just about to say that. +1 But the fact is CD named it a Night Hub.

larafan25 26-04-12 00:16
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Originally Posted by Spong (Post 6131235)
LOL. I admire your honesty :tmb:



But the name suggests it's always night in that particular area. I thought the game definitely definitely definitely had dynamic time?
The game's time won't change if you stand still. But as you progress through the story the time of day will change and as the time of day changes, if you travel back to a hub which was previously nighttime, it will then be daytime and take on whatever changes have occurred since you were last there.

Jak and Daxter managed a day and night cycle which changed while you stood still without feeling like forever amounts of time were passing, but CD are so obsessed with their story so I'm sure we'll know when a day goes by.

Horus-Goddess 26-04-12 00:23
That kinda makes me sad really. I wanted to be able to stand around and watch night fall or the sun rising etc.

:(

Or a storm pass even? dynamic weather too?

Spong 26-04-12 00:24
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Originally Posted by larafan25 (Post 6131238)
The game's time won't change if you stand still. But as you progress through the story the time of day will change and as the time of day changes, if you travel back to a hub which was previously nighttime, it will then be daytime and take on whatever changes have occurred since you were last there.
Then this apparent 'night hub' has to be wrongly named because there's no way to guarantee that, when a player reaches it, it'll be night time. Unless they purposely stick a bit of story/cutscene in at the start as you enter the area, a bit like some of the night missions in GTA/AC, just to cue it.

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Originally Posted by larafan25 (Post 6131238)
Jak and Daxter managed a day and night cycle which changed while you stood still without feeling like forever amounts of time were passing, but CD are so obsessed with their story so I'm sure we'll know when a day goes by.
It sounds to me that any passing time will happen during moments of moving from one area to another, during passages where the sky etc. is conveniently hidden. If that's the case, that's a cheat to me and it isn't dynamic time. If I spend an hour running around the same area, proper dynamic time will see the daylight change to dusk and then to night.

Or...

They could go with the method used in games like Zelda: Ocarina of Time. Time would be dynamic when you were in the central hub and connecting pathways, but when you entered a village or a dungeon, time would freeze.

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Originally Posted by Horus-Goddess (Post 6131252)
That kinda makes me sad really. I wanted to be able to stand around and watch night fall or the sun rising etc.

:(

Or a storm pass even? dynamic weather too?
I'd have liked that too, it adds depth to the atmosphere. Time moving forwards in stages isn't the same.

larafan25 26-04-12 00:25
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Originally Posted by Horus-Goddess (Post 6131252)
That kinda makes me sad really. I wanted to be able to stand around and watch night fall or the sun rising etc.

:(

Or a storm pass even? dynamic weather too?
I would have loved that too, I'm sure we all would.

But of course, all is lost at the hands of the narrative.

We need a certain weather at a certain time to convey a certain mood/ emotion.

I'm not sure why thought couldn't have it constantly change but enforce some weather to convey an emotion when necessary...but I guess it's sort of similar to what we have now.

Stevo505 26-04-12 00:26
I think it's probably just nicknamed the Night Hub for now since it is the only hub we've seen thus far and it is night.

larafan25 26-04-12 00:28
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Originally Posted by Stevo505 (Post 6131257)
I think it's probably just nicknamed the Night Hub for now since it is the only hub we've seen thus far and it is night.
This.

Though I wonder what the space is at the end of the E3 demo with all the ships, just a cutscene backdrop?

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Originally Posted by Spong (Post 6131255)
Then this apparent 'night hub' has to be wrongly named because there's no way to guarantee that, when a player reaches it, it'll be night time. Unless they purposely stick a bit of story/cutscene in at the start as you enter the area, a bit like some of the night missions in GTA/AC, just to cue it.



It sounds to me that any passing time will happen during moments of moving from one area to another, during passages where the sky etc. is conveniently hidden. If that's the case, that's a cheat to me and it isn't dynamic time. If I spend an hour running around the same area, proper dynamic time will see the daylight change to dusk and then to night.

Or...

They could go with the method used in games like Zelda: Ocarina of Time. Time would be dynamic when you were in the central hub and connecting pathways, but when you entered a village or a dungeon, time would freeze.



I'd have liked that too, it adds depth to the atmosphere. Time moving forwards in stages isn't the same.
I have no idea what they're going to do.

Imagined the time visually changing but only as you move. So as you're making progress in the missions, the time of day changes. But if you stay still it won't.

IDK. :/


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