So in the cutscene when Lara speaks to Roth, she tell's him that Steph is dead... And then she says something like "It's all my falt!".
So I was thinking, didn't Karl said a while ago that this whole trip was Lara's idea...

I don't remember hearing her say that. :eek:

Karl said it might be Lara's fault in a recent interview, and Lara dores say "it's all my fault" in that cutscene.

yea me neither D:

"I was captured by a muuuaaannn".

I figured she just said that because she was upset and she felt responsible for whatever reason. It's such a cliché thing that's said in movies that I didn't even give it a second fault. But if it really is Lara's fault somehow, I wonder what it is she did exactly.

That's exactly what I thought, I just thought it was in there for no reason.

"I was captured by a muaana, Steph too. He killed Steph."

"bla blah"

"It's all my fault".

I hope we find out in the game.

Maybe there's something that Lara did when they first washed up on the beach that somehow caused them them to be captured by the scavengers or something. :pi:

IMO I'd rather they keep that bit for DLC.

lol no.

You got me before I saw the white text, I was like gurrl what?! :p

What if there will be flashbacks?

I'm not opposed to flashbacks...but...I don't think we'll need any.

They should just have any ship segments before we get on the island, same with anything that happened before Lara even got on the Endurance.

So it all goes in order. I like order.

I do too but I wish we could actually play some of the parts on the ship, it will be a cut scene fest.

It would have been too cool to be on the giant ship, in full control of Lara (exploration mode) as the ship rocks back and forth on the monstrous waves as a giant physics object.

Then waves come crashing onto the ship and stuff, and we wade through flooding tunnels, etc...

Didn't Karl (or somone else?) said the accident of the ship has something to do with Lara?

That reminds me of UC3, it was my favorite part of the whole game so I would've loved that. :(

I do think we will enter a few fleets. Kublai Khan might well be the last level you never know. :)

Or the story could end with Lara finding the real whereabouts of Kublai Khan's fleet and become a Tomb Raider to find it in the name of her fellow expeditioners. :p

Yes.

I wanted to just show everyone that part of UC3 because of how exciting it was.

Well one of the DLC packs is rumored to be named "The Lost Fleet", and I believe it has been said that the DLC takes place after the island events, in some way.

So...:pi:

I would love to explore inside ships full of water.

Aww, I hope it isn't that. I'd rather do that in the game's finale. Would that make it likely that she doesn't get off the island in the end... :pi:

Time to get the theory caps on again I feel! :jmp:

Huh? When and where did that rumor come from?

A bad-ass comic book ending would be young Lara sailing off the island after her grand solo discovery of the lost fleet, with all of her team dead, and unable to bring home more than the raft she floats off on. <3

I hope the rumors are true, that sounds so exciting, I love exploring ships. :jmp:

Well in the same article they seemed to debut The Final Hours of Tomb Raider before the proper announcement, so it could be accurate.

It was described as a tricky map I believe.

But my memory is foggy.

I think I wrote that down somewhere in this thread once too. It'd be an epic ending and a good set up for the next game. :)

Maybe that's where I got the idea, lol. :p

:eek: Take my money CeeDee.

Did Karl actually say that the accident had something to do with Lara. I know he said in one video 'and 3, this could be her fault...blah [something about why they're in this situation] blah' but I didn't realise he said the accident was somehow her fault. Though, to be fair, I can't possibly imagine what he could mean. I hope CD don't blab what it is before the game is out.

Oh yes! I remember that one now it was from GAME. The article mysteriously disappeared. :D

Maybe great minds think a like. :p

^DAMN. I was looking for it. :(

I believe he did indeed say "it could be her fault" but perhaps only because Lara herself has already said "it's all my fault".

Could anyone please tell me what all is she saying at 2:00?

Uh, I really hope there's some explanation as to why she would say/think that. Karl can't say it, Lara can't say it and we're just left wondering. :p

Edit: 'He took her, he took Sam...a man...like the one who killed Steph'.

Tbh I love that they're not telling us too much about the story this time, I mean we knew almost everything about Underworld.

It could well be Lara's fault for not co-operating. Sam seemed fine as did the rest of the crew they all had clean clothes and looked healthy and Mattheus even kept Sam fed. Maybe Lara is the real villain in this situation. They didn't seem to be in any real harm unless Lara was with them as Steph was in the same den as Lara she would've been killed in Lara's presence she's like the angel of death. :D

Indeed, I want to know everything. No plot holes.

He took sam.

A man, like the one who... killed Steph (saying it slow as she realizes she's breaking news to them).

^ Ah, thanks. :)

So, since someone said "maybe Lara wasn't cooperating and she's dirty", it makes me wonder that maybe that has something to do with Lara getting the necklace. As it was said there is a bit of a story behind it, but it has only been in and out of artwork so it can't be that big of a deal.

Also, apparently there is some story as to how Lara and Same got there together, or something.

They met in Lesbos, a lesbian porn store back in London.

Plus let's think about this... Since it is possible that Lara was the reason they went on this trip that could explain why Lara has dragon-like pendant, dragons are connected to Japan and the story is set in Japan, to be exact at Dragon's triangle.

And all this time we blamed Sam and her orange.

Lara this hoe. :mis:

Oh right, how could I have forgot this, that time in Brighton.

Maybe Lara wanted it badly, and Roth is a family friend.

"All this time I blamed myself, and it was me, I killed us"!