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[quote]@CrystalDKarl
Long week in London doing the pre-E3 thing, so tired. Back to SF tomorrow, then LA for judges event and then back to London again in 10 days[/quote]

He's probably just speaking generally. As in all of the details and planning that goes into planning prior to E3 itself.

And that means judges week is next week. Nothing really came from it last year, but there was a cool photo album that Meagan made for it. Maybe they'll take more photos of the setup this year.

I guess our best bet at this time would be to just wait for E3 :).

[QUOTE=TippingWater;6162916]I guess our best bet at this time would be to just wait for E3 :).[/QUOTE]

Or the pre-E3 show in which there is totally going to be a TR trailer.

[QUOTE=TippingWater;6162916]I guess our best bet at this time would be to just wait for E3 :).[/QUOTE]

We might as well log off and come back in June, they ain't gonna release **** this is ridiculous...

Or May 31st, which many believe is an important date.

[QUOTE=TippingWater;6162916]I guess our best bet at this time would be to just wait for E3 :).[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I'm not getting my hopes up for anything else right now, no matter how many [I]things[/I] Karl tweets about. :pi:

I'm waiting for 31st May. Deffo!

Of course nothing is going to be released until E3. It's only logical....

i love and hate these tweets at once ..make me exciting but who knows what "things" karl thinks ...seems like nothing for us :(

[QUOTE=scremanie;6162925]Of course nothing is going to be released until E3. It's only logical....[/QUOTE]
Which is why other games are releasing stuff left and right before E3. Their marketing teams must all be so illogical!

[QUOTE=Lukass;6162924]I'm waiting for 31st May. Deffo![/QUOTE]

Well the winner for the latest Tomb Raider contest will be revealed on the 31st I believe.

High fives for may 31 !!! :jmp: ..maybe it is date when we get "pre-E3 thing"
...i must believe !!:cln:

[QUOTE=Lukass;6162924]I'm waiting for 31st May. Deffo![/QUOTE]

Why put your hopes up for something that might not even happen? Just look forward to E3 and if anything comes before it will be a plus. Remember - E3.

[QUOTE=Mikky;6162939]Why put your hopes up for something that might not even happen? Just look forward to E3 and if anything comes before it will be a plus. Remember - E3.[/QUOTE]

No one will listen. It seems like stone-cold logic has no place with these people.

[QUOTE=Mikky;6162939]Why put your hopes up for something that might not even happen? Just look forward to E3 and if anything comes before it will be a plus. Remember - E3.[/QUOTE]

:tmb:

[QUOTE=Mikky;6162939]Why put your hopes up for something that might not even happen? Just look forward to E3 and if anything comes before it will be a plus. Remember - E3.[/QUOTE]

If they reveal the trailer 31st May I'll be happy, if not, I'll be happy to wait a few more days for E3. It's not like I'm going to be devastated ;)

[QUOTE=Pietras;6162930]Which is why other games are releasing stuff left and right before E3. Their marketing teams must all be so illogical![/QUOTE]

Care to make a list for me? I must be under a rock.

I still cannot get over how good the alpha version of the game looked. I honestly believe, well based on what I have seen so far of the game, leaked video included that this game has to be one of the most beautiful and realistic video games ever made :o. It looks too good to be true :p. Maybe I am a bit biased, but Uncharted for example despite the fact that it has higher res models and textures it feels more cartoony than Tomb Raider, actually the opening cocoon scene looks really realistic, well until Lara catches fire and starts falling down.

I thought The E3 and leaked vid were before the game reached Alpha?

[QUOTE=King.Louie;6162968]I thought The E3 and leaked vid were before the game reached Alpha?[/QUOTE]

They were.

[QUOTE=scremanie;6162960]Care to make a list for me? I must be under a rock.[/QUOTE]

Assassin's Creed 3
Hitman Absolution

My expectations for the graphics are actually kinda low. I just can't imagine them looking that much improved from the screenshots and the game will never look as good as Uncharted 3, imo. I really hope I'm proven wrong though and I'll be wow-ed at E3. I literally wanna say, "Wow, the graphics are amazing!"

[QUOTE=scremanie;6162960]Care to make a list for me? I must be under a rock.[/QUOTE]
Hitman, Ubisoft with Far Cry 3 and AC III etc (they release stuff gradually)....you just get up and look around :ton:...i don´t know what is or isn´t logical,,only i gave you an examples like you wanted ;)

[QUOTE=Mikky;6162971]My expectations for the graphics are actually kinda low. I just can't imagine them looking that much improved from the screenshots and the game will never look as good as Uncharted 3, imo. I really hope I'm proven wrong though and I'll be wow-ed at E3. I literally wanna say, "Wow, the graphics are amazing!"[/QUOTE]

I actually see that happening, well but of course the graphics won't be on par with Uncharted, but they actually do not need to be. I was more than satisfied even with Angel of Darkness' graphics :p.

[QUOTE=TippingWater;6162982]...the graphics won't be on par with Uncharted, but they actually do not need to be...[/QUOTE]

Hear hear! :tmb:

People seem to be obsessed with how pretty or realistic games are rather than the gameplay. It's quite sad really.

[QUOTE=Linoshi Croft;6162990]People seem to be obsessed with how pretty or realistic games are rather than the gameplay. It's quite sad really.[/QUOTE]

Yeah this.

Though when I think of having graphics like Uncharted 3, it feels like thinking about icecream after eating 100 pounds of icecream.

[QUOTE=Linoshi Croft;6162990]People seem to be obsessed with how pretty or realistic games are rather than the gameplay. It's quite sad really.[/QUOTE]

Graphics are just as important as gameplay, and to the masses they graphics are even more important than the gameplay.Like it or not, it's just the way it is.

[QUOTE=Mikky;6162971]My expectations for the graphics are actually kinda low. I just can't imagine them looking that much improved from the screenshots and the game will never look as good as Uncharted 3, imo. I really hope I'm proven wrong though and I'll be wow-ed at E3. I literally wanna say, "Wow, the graphics are amazing!"[/QUOTE]

It won't be worse than Underworld (the pre-alpha footage looks 10x better than TRU) and TRU actually looked awesome.

[QUOTE=TippingWater;6162999]Graphics are just as important as gameplay, and to the masses they [I][B]graphics are even more important than the gameplay.[/B][/I]Like it or not, it's just the way it is.[/QUOTE]

That's when it really bothers me.

Although, some of the most beautiful games I've played have actually been Last Gen. I think realism is what people want. Although, pretty graphics don't make a good game.

Pretty graphics can add to a game, though. It can give better emphasis on atmosphere. Could you imagine the TReboot with PS2 Legend graphics? It wouldn't feel the same, the atmosphere would feel much different because everything around her looks different.

[QUOTE=Lukass;6163001]It won't be worse than Underworld (the pre-alpha footage looks 10x better than TRU) and TRU actually looked awesome.[/QUOTE]
Indeed, Reboot even in alphha stage looked better than TRU, mainly because of it's realistic approach in design:).


[QUOTE=Linoshi Croft;6163002]That's when it really bothers me.

Although, some of the most beautiful games I've played have actually been Last Gen. I think realism is what people want. Although, pretty graphics don't make a good game.[/QUOTE] I agree, but you can have a good game with good graphics. Actually those two run hand in hand :). Look at the Assassin's Creed franchise for example :).

It seems to me that TR has better graphics than AC.

Not that it means anything.

[QUOTE=Pietras;6162930]Which is why other games are releasing stuff left and right before E3. Their marketing teams must all be so illogical![/QUOTE]

Games that have only recently been announced and are still handing out the first real info on the game? We have already had two rounds of that, so are not precisely starved for info. Waiting till E3 for the third round is hardly going to kill us. If Crystal Dynamics could have got things ready in time they would have given us something, we can see the plans were in place for some exclusive magazine articles, it just never worked out.

[QUOTE=Linoshi Croft;6163002]...some of the most beautiful games I've played have actually been Last Gen...[/QUOTE]

I could say that about some of the 8-bit games I was playing back in the 1980s. While technology advances and standards naturally climb, I'd rather Crystal rein in any urge to try and create 'videogame art'. I think visuals should be practical first and pretty second.

Agreed.

[QUOTE=TippingWater;6163006]I agree, but you can have a good game with good graphics. Actually those two run hand in hand :). Look at the Assassin's Creed franchise for example :).[/QUOTE]

I never said you couldn't. They do but still the emphasis should be put on gameplay over graphics imo.

Even though, I don't think Assassins Creed is the best example :p

I think every aspect of a game is equally important so they should be worked on equally.

[QUOTE=Spong;6163012]I could say that about some of the 8-bit games I was playing back in the 1980s. While technology advances and standards naturally climb, I'd rather Crystal rein in any urge to try and create 'videogame art'. I think visuals should be practical first and pretty second.[/QUOTE]

Hmm. Good point, I agree.

[QUOTE=Linoshi Croft;6163013]Even though, I don't think Assassins Creed is the best example :p[/QUOTE]

LOL, I was gonna say that too. Revelations took a step back with its visuals IMO. Although taking a step back isn't necessarily a bad thing, Revelations itself is a crap game as a whole, so having shoddier visuals just compounds matters.