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UroshUchiha 29-01-21 10:48

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Originally Posted by TombRaider_Ed (Post 8274887)
Oh hey Urosh! You were the first person in our Discord, we had a mini party on your arrival :jmp:

Hey Ed :D Hahaha yeah I spam the discord a lot, just doing my best to offer feedback when I can :D Fox and I had a lovely talk so far, a very helpful person that one. Quick to respond too.

yogalame 29-01-21 11:04

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Originally Posted by TombRaider_Ed (Post 8274889)
Best thing to do here is to copy and paste the above into an email and send direct to trrsupport@eu.square-enix.com and that will make sure a ticket gets created.

You can also join the Discord and our lovely Player Experience Manager will respond! I will respond but not helpfully as I have no idea what happens on that side of things :D

Thanks.

That's the same email as the one from inside the app.
I resend an email with new added information, will I get a ticket number back at some point?

I don't have a Discord at the moment unfortunately, maybe I will make one.

edit
I just went ahead and tried Discord so no need to answer, I did not know you could use it without the app.

Brutallman 29-01-21 14:01

Hello friends!
How can i update the gale to new 0.6.5 version if I cant find it un Google play store? My region is not supported, but i wanna play the game very much!😭

saqueadordt 29-01-21 15:38

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Originally Posted by Brutallman (Post 8274951)
Hello friends!
How can i update the gale to new 0.6.5 version if I cant find it un Google play store? My region is not supported, but i wanna play the game very much!😭

Same here, Panda VPN doesn't work for me 😭

Hi, all :)

yogalame 29-01-21 15:43

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Originally Posted by Brutallman (Post 8274951)
Hello friends!
How can i update the gale to new 0.6.5 version if I cant find it un Google play store? My region is not supported, but i wanna play the game very much!😭

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Originally Posted by saqueadordt (Post 8275002)
Same here, Panda VPN doesn't work for me 😭

Hi, all :)

The method as previously posted by UroshUchiha is:
Download Panda VPN from the Play Store.
Start and connect to a server in Thailand after watching an ad.
Clear Google Play Store data.
Start the Play Store, the app should be there.

This did not work in my case, probably a device limitation.
I had to use the Aurora store (open source Google Store client - not another App store but a way to access the Play store with an open source app) which can bypass such limitations.

The app was available there and I was able to update it.
Use Aurora Store with the generic Google account option, no need to enter your own account, plus you shouldn't as it may get blocked.

Mikky 29-01-21 20:31

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Originally Posted by yogalame (Post 8275006)
The method as previously posted by UroshUchiha is:
Download Panda VPN from the Play Store
Start and connect to a server in Thailand after watching an ad.
Clear Google Play Store data
Start the Play Store, the app should be there.

This did not work in my case, probably a device limitation.
I had to use the Aurora store which bypasses such limitations.

The app was available there and I was able to update it.
Use Aurora Store with the generic Google account option, no need to enter your own account, plus you shouldn't as it may get blocked.

Omg, thank you, thank you, thank you! :gki:

I've been trying for weeks to get the game running on my phone but this method finally worked for me! Greatly appreciated, person I've never seen around here before :hug:

Guess I'll be playing this for the rest of the night :admles:

saqueadordt 29-01-21 21:59

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Originally Posted by yogalame (Post 8275006)
The method as previously posted by UroshUchiha is:
Download Panda VPN from the Play Store
Start and connect to a server in Thailand after watching an ad.
Clear Google Play Store data
Start the Play Store, the app should be there.

This did not work in my case, probably a device limitation.
I had to use the Aurora store which bypasses such limitations.

The app was available there and I was able to update it.
Use Aurora Store with the generic Google account option, no need to enter your own account, plus you shouldn't as it may get blocked.

It didn't work for me, but I managed to update, thank you :hug:

yogalame 29-01-21 22:10

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Originally Posted by Mikky (Post 8275111)
Omg, thank you, thank you, thank you! :gki:

I've been trying for weeks to get the game running on my phone but this method finally worked for me! Greatly appreciated, person I've never seen around here before :hug:

Guess I'll be playing this for the rest of the night :admles:

Glad it worked :)

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Originally Posted by saqueadordt (Post 8275135)
It didn't work for me, but I managed to update, thank you :hug:

How did you manage if you don't mind me asking?

jackali 29-01-21 23:09

I expect the APK is floating around out there somewhere. :p

Soma Holiday 30-01-21 12:00

When the heck is this game coming out? I see some people are already playing it but it's not on the play store. Is it apple only or something? I want to get it.

jackali 30-01-21 16:52

It's currently only available in select regions for testing.

Some people have managed to get their hands on the APK floating around the Internet.

Tomb Raidering 30-01-21 17:47

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Originally Posted by lance6439 (Post 8271119)
we already have the reboot games being a stain oh and TRA

A masterpiece living in your head rent-free as it should.
_____________

Lara’s model is amazing. I love the Anniversary elements sprinkled in like the pistols, braid and holsters. But the game looks boring and repetitive, at least Relic Run was fun.

SoraSakai 31-01-21 23:31

This game is absolutely horrendous. People pretending to like it aren’t doing the franchise any favors.

For goodness sake, have some dignity.

If not for Lara, at least for yourself.

Mikky 01-02-21 00:29

Well, as someone who played Archero for a while before this and enjoyed it, I can say even though Reloaded hasn't come quite close to the quality of that, it is still some mindless fun. And of course, it's still in Beta so it has time to improve things, so we'll see how it goes.

I will say, even if I'm playing this now and enjoying it some or end up really liking it down the line, I will never encourage the series to continue to go down this route. Just because I'm having fun doesn't mean I believe it's right for TR. For example, I could be playing Flappy Bird on my phone and enjoying it, doesn't mean I think the formula would fit TR (maybe Square should have the same mindset). But for better or worse, as a TR fan, I have an undying curiousity, so... To be honest, I thought the exact same with Relic Run. I don't much care what unique twists it had to the runner formula, it's still a mindless cash grab; same goes for this.

So yeah, as a TR fan, I will always show some interest in playing, and I might have fun with them and even complete them, but that doesn't mean I will encourage or support the creation of future reskins of mobile games. I know everyone might not understand that, but that's just me - I've never been a black and white kinda guy. What I say is, if they're gonna make a TR game for mobile, make it a unique experience that isn't ripped off from another game. And if you can't do that, then don't bother at all - trust me that no-one will miss it, and Square Enix have enough money as it is.

UroshUchiha 01-02-21 01:07

Every time I see this SoraSakai person on this forum, they never comment anything positive or constructive. It's always something shady, negative and/or toxic. So I am not surprised about their post here.
Imagine telling people to stop having mindless fun. This is a type of a game you play for 5 to 10 minutes per day and if someone wants to play for more and gets fun from it, who are you to tell them to stop "pretending" and have some dignity.

Would I recommend this game to hardcore TR fans? Nope. Would I recommend it to people who need time to kill while walking their dog or something? Sure.
But I would never tell people to "have some dignity" based on what games they play in their free time cause that's just a disgusting behaviour.

charmedangelin 01-02-21 01:26

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Originally Posted by UroshUchiha (Post 8273896)
Eh so I decided to do things myself.
Downloaded Panda VPN for free (no registration needed, just watch a 30 second ad and connect to Thailand). Download the game legit from Play Store.

They fixed a lot of stuff. Masks that are above level 1 now work, spikes deal damage now, you can no longer get Keto Hull multiple times in The Lost Valley, The Lost Valley now has new stage variations, you get A LOT more EXP per stage now. Usually you finish a map with level 7-8. Now you can go up to ~14 from what I saw. There's also new animations for the collected relics.

The Lucky Wheel gives more money now, and there's a new Lucky Wheel that gives you a chance to get Gems if you watch and ad
https://i.imgur.com/S6w1kMn.png

You can also no longer cheese the game by existing and re-opening it to continue if you die. It just kicks you out and you lose your progress.

The "Increases xxx per %1 missing HP" are gone and replaced with this
https://i.imgur.com/xGAMeH0.png

And the best part of it all is that the game now works on Android emulators for PC (At least on Memu). Since the save files are now stored on Google Play Games, my files transferred to the emulator so I can now switch between playing it on the PC (with the keyboard finally!) and mobile.

Oh my God thanks for this method, Imma see what fixes were made in the new version.

Edit

I see now I can play ads to get gems and stuff. Will be way less grindy now. Save data is also now backed up to my main account. I'll try to give feedback when I can.

SoraSakai 01-02-21 02:12

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Originally Posted by UroshUchiha (Post 8275732)
Every time I see this SoraSakai person on this forum, they never comment anything positive or constructive. It's always something shady, negative and/or toxic. So I am not surprised about their post here.
Imagine telling people to stop having mindless fun. This is a type of a game you play for 5 to 10 minutes per day and if someone wants to play for more and gets fun from it, who are you to tell them to stop "pretending" and have some dignity.

Would I recommend this game to hardcore TR fans? Nope. Would I recommend it to people who need time to kill while walking their dog or something? Sure.
But I would never tell people to "have some dignity" based on what games they play in their free time cause that's just a disgusting behaviour.

Literally reloaded is the only thing that I don’t like at the moment because it’s a copy paste of the companies other lazy cash funneling “apps.”

So your description of me, based on two posts related to the same topic is incorrect and unfair. Yes, I think liking something, a thing that’s entire purpose is to frustrate you into spending money on it, is disrespectful to yourself.

This isn’t about liking a game that I dislike, or having different taste, this is about normalizing something that preys upon people with addictive tendencies and then exploiting them into wasting money on it because it happens to use imagery that they’re nostalgic for.

Not only that, but there’s zero regulation on it, meaning children can be susceptible to its insidious tactics.

charmedangelin 01-02-21 02:21

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Originally Posted by SoraSakai (Post 8275743)
Literally reloaded is the only thing that I don’t like at the moment because it’s a copy paste of the companies other lazy cash funneling “apps.”

So your description of me, based on two posts related to the same topic is incorrect and unfair. Yes, I think liking something, a thing that’s entire purpose is to frustrate you into spending money on it, is disrespectful to yourself.

This isn’t about liking a game that I dislike, or having different taste, this is about normalizing something that preys upon people with addictive tendencies and then exploiting them into wasting money on it because it happens to use imagery that they’re nostalgic for.

Not only that, but there’s zero regulation on it, meaning children can be susceptible to its insidious tactics.

This is 100% fact tbh.

Mobile games can be very predatory as many of them are specifically designed to hook people with addictive personalities. The original archero actually made a lot of changes where most things you could earn reasonably.

SoraSakai 01-02-21 02:26

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Originally Posted by charmedangelin (Post 8275746)
This is 100% fact tbh.

Mobile games can be very predatory as many of them are specifically designed to hook people with addictive personalities. The original archero actually made a lot of changes where most things you could earn reasonably.

Exactly. If this were just (what I perceived to be) a boring game that you purchase and own and then that’s the extent of its money-grubbing-ness, then absolutely, enjoy it, play it. Have all the fun in the world.

But that isn’t what it is. So I do think some self control and dignity is needed in each of us to look at Square and say, “No. We will support Lara and your games, but we are not your ATM’s.”

charmedangelin 01-02-21 03:40

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Originally Posted by SoraSakai (Post 8275748)
Exactly. If this were just (what I perceived to be) a boring game that you purchase and own and then that’s the extent of its money-grubbing-ness, then absolutely, enjoy it, play it. Have all the fun in the world.

But that isn’t what it is. So I do think some self control and dignity is needed in each of us to look at Square and say, “No. We will support Lara and your games, but we are not your ATM’s.”

I agree, that's why I'm hoping they are as forgiving as Archero and allow us to easily earn currency without paying money. I'm fine watching some ads which seems like the direction they are going in.

Edit

Well after playing the game still feels very grindy. Honestly I'm not gonna touch it again until the game releases when it's finished. You still need a ton of gems to get stuff and while you have the wheel to spin to get more the ads are always 30secs and I honestly don't have time to be just sitting there that long. Maybe they can split them up into multiple 15 sec ads that should up periodically or something.

Idk, this type of game just doesn't seem like it's for me. I'll still give it a chance upon final release because this is all alpha still.

UroshUchiha 01-02-21 08:41

Eh to each their own. I personally would never spend my money on any type of loot boxes and microtransactions because they are literally gambling. I'd rather mod the game or pirate it instead.
But TRR has yet to give me the need to actually spend my money. Is the option there? Yes, it is there. But I have never in my 30 levels of the game so far felt the need to actually buy anything, cause like I said, I only play this for a few minutes per day, run out of tickets, and move on to do something more productive with my time.
I don't really see the addiction in this one that other titles are going for to hook you in and spend your money on.

And no, my opinion of you is not based on the two comments you made here, I've seen you in other threads. Granted I don't follow every single thread on this forum, just the stuff that interests me, but in places that I have seen you it's either to be negative about something or to start/stir drama. Again, I don't visit all the threads so I'm sure you are probably positive and pleased in other discussions.

All in all, how certain people find escapism from the real world is none of my business and if it works for them, it works for them, I won't tell them to stop having fun. Even if it's them spending their own hard earned money. It's their money, they can do whatever they want with it for all I care.

“No. We will support Lara and your games, but we are not your ATM’s.” I personally have no plans to spend money on this title, but I will use it to kill some time when I need to kill some time, for that the game is good in my opinion. And you'd be surprised how many people are willing to be their ATMs. I'm in multiple fandoms and the amount of people willing to spend their monthly salaries on something trivial in a franchise they "stan" is insane, so nothing surprises me anymore.

SoraSakai 01-02-21 10:02

You personally feeling like you don’t need to spend money or won’t fall for this games attempts into tricking you to do so, just means you’re not the type of person they’re hoping to prey upon.

Just because you’re not personally susceptible to tactics that rely on manipulating addictive tendencies, doesn’t make this (TR:Reloaded) any less disgusting. You just have to think for the people that this DOES affect (like young children or people with gambling problems).

Again, the issue here isn’t: “People like something I don’t, Wah!”. We aren’t talking about me liking Angel of Darkness more than TR1. We’re talking about the normalization of predatory apps/games whose only purpose is to trick their prey (again: children and people with addictive tendencies).

I think it’s important to flat-out refuse it, and clearly, most country’s governments agree with me because there’s already plenty of discussions in regards to micro-transactions, loot-boxes and the need for them to be properly regulated.

So yes. I think if we as a fandom, have any sense of integrity and basic empathy for other people, we should reject the concept of using a character we all strongly care about in such a blatantly-manipulatively-disgustingly-greedy way.

UroshUchiha 01-02-21 11:07

"You’re not the type of person they’re hoping to prey upon" with that I have to agree. One of the examples is Guild Wars 2, I have friends who spend a ton of money on that game while I do not and I still enjoy playing it.

I know that these types of games prey upon kids and people with gambling addictions, but I leave that to the government and parents/guardians to deal with it. Not my problem honestly. I use my voice when I can but ultimately I think that gaming in general is in decline for the past ~12 years so I am used to it and lowkey gave up, just waiting for the collapse.

As for TRR, this community pretty much did reject this game, the poll on the other thread is evidence of that. And I am on their official Discord so I know how little people are there at the moment. Sure they will get a boost once the app goes public, but I still don't think people will rush to join in great numbers.

My goal is to be there and offer constructive feedback to the devs and try to improve this game as much as possible. This game is not going away, it will come out of EA sooner or later and I'd rather it be the best it can be regardless of how big or small that is. That's the only support I am willing to offer.

DVDSpike 01-02-21 16:19

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Originally Posted by UroshUchiha (Post 8275818)
"You’re not the type of person they’re hoping to prey upon" with that I have to agree. One of the examples is Guild Wars 2, I have friends who spend a ton of money on that game while I do not and I still enjoy playing it.

I know that these types of games prey upon kids and people with gambling addictions, but I leave that to the government and parents/guardians to deal with it. Not my problem honestly. I use my voice when I can but ultimately I think that gaming in general is in decline for the past ~12 years so I am used to it and lowkey gave up, just waiting for the collapse.

As for TRR, this community pretty much did reject this game, the poll on the other thread is evidence of that. And I am on their official Discord so I know how little people are there at the moment. Sure they will get a boost once the app goes public, but I still don't think people will rush to join in great numbers.

My goal is to be there and offer constructive feedback to the devs and try to improve this game as much as possible. This game is not going away, it will come out of EA sooner or later and I'd rather it be the best it can be regardless of how big or small that is. That's the only support I am willing to offer.

This is kind of a selfish mindset. “It’s not affecting me therefore it’s not my problem”.

It is your problem. It’s everyone’s problem. Why are you happy to sit idle by while companies manipulate people and governments sit by and let it happen?

This game is literally made with the mindset that this fandom will pour money into it and that’s it’s only goal. I don’t understand why a fandom would choose to acknowledge that yet be happy with it.

Square are trying to manipulate you, it’s not okay.

charmedangelin 01-02-21 16:46

Yup, once again I have to agree with Sora and DVDSpike. These kinds of apps are everyone's problem. Games shouldn't be atm machines to pump money from us.

Watch this video, I already knew about this from my days back at University, but this video does an extremely good job talking about the problem.


UroshUchiha 01-02-21 17:23

But it is not my problem regardless if you think that's a selfish mindset or not, cause I gave up on this industry a while back. I mostly just replay older titles and maybe find two interesting indie projects per year. Like I said, I use my voice and advise people against participating in predatory practices. But the best thing that I can do is close off my wallet to them. Which is exactly what I have been doing since ~2010.

I follow the content of channels like Bellular News, Upper Echelon Gamers, SidAlpha, Jim Sterling and so on, so I am very well informed of the issue plaguing the gaming community for longer than a decade at this point. And I am so tired of pretending like it'll get any better. It won't, and I am just gonna continue to not support them with my money (which clearly is not making any difference cause there will always be whales who will make these practices profitable to the greedy companies regardless of what I/we do).

I'll let the government do what it should have done years ago, close my wallet to these things, use my voice when I think I should and that's about it. Call it selfish, it really matters not to me at this point.

Honestly I am just waiting for the collapse of AAA gaming and the rise of indies to take their place to happen.

"Games shouldn't be atm machines to pump money from us", they shouldn't, but they are for a very long time. And each year it keeps getting worse and worse. And as long as there are people who "boycott" stuff like this only to spend a monthly salary on a "Special Ultimate Platinum Deluxe Edition" of the game they are so called boycotting day one on release, nothing will change. The only reason that the games will continue to be ATM machines is simply because people are still giving them money. And as long as they get the money, they will never stop.

charmedangelin 01-02-21 17:48

And they get the money because they are specifically designed to do that. It's not like people are always willfully doing it when they are being influenced by factors they aren't completely up aware of. This "not my problem" attitude is the same kind of attitude some folks have that ahs lead to this same situation today. If people took a better attitude with it then it wouldn't be a problem.

My cousin recently was in a serious car accident and one guy driving by saw what happened, but did nothing. Luckily someone who actually cared came by, helped them and called 911. Imagine if they also just drove by with this "I don't care it's not my problem" attitude. You can do what you want, but that's not a healthy mindset to have.

UroshUchiha 01-02-21 18:17

Don't misunderstand me, it is not that I am not doing anything. I am doing as much as I can to my current ability. But I am realistic and know where my limits are. I was optimistic about all this that we as a community of gamers could change this, but watching year after year how titles like Fifa (and other sports titles) which are just copy paste of a previous year edition keep making more and more money kinda broke me so my peak of participation against this is to like YouTube videos calling out predatory practices about this, share them, leave a comment here and there where I feel it is necessary and most importantly not give a single cent to these games.

A decade of this turned me pessimistic so it is what it is. There's only so much that one can do and endure without seeing any positive changes/results.

I applaud people who have the energy to keep up the good fight and I support you all and stand with you :D
But as I said, my peak at the moment is to just not give them money, and leave others to spend their money however they see fit. You earned it, you spend it however you will. If you fall into these traps that the companies are using nowadays maybe you should not be the one to handle your bank account imo. And if you are a child, well, your parents/guardians should do a better job and educate themselves how to protect you from these greedy companies cause they will never stop with "surprise mechanics".

SoraSakai 01-02-21 21:31

It’s hard for a parent to know in the first place when a game gives zero warning or rating that it’ll have gambling in it in the first place.

I find your lack of compassion for people this affects to be a little disappointing and honestly quite disturbing.

Yes, not giving money to these games helps YOU, but also not supporting them in general helps EVERYONE. This isn’t a game designed to be mindless fun. The “mindless fun” is a mask. It’s a disguise.

It’s sad seeing Lara used this way and I do think we, as a fandom, for the sake of other people NEED to reject it. Sorry but I don’t want Lara Croft to be associated with this.

Being vocal on these kinds of things does have a constructive payoff sometimes. Look at what happened with EA’s Battlefront 2.

Chamayoo 02-02-21 00:00

Ok Urosh just killed a baby or ... ?
What is the point to make them or others who have interest in this game guilty like this ?

SoraSakai 02-02-21 01:55

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Originally Posted by Chamayoo (Post 8276157)
Ok Urosh just killed a baby or ... ?
What is the point to make them or others who have interest in this game guilty like this ?

Read my posts. I was very succinct with what I said and the reasons I gave.
Supporting something like this is immoral and disturbing. You’re essentially saying “It’s okay for companies to manipulate people and treat us like morons.” You might think you’re clapping back at me or something, but you’re actually just insulting your own integrity as a person.

UroshUchiha 02-02-21 08:39

I disagree that not giving money to these projects helps only me. If more people stopped giving money to these companies then it would be helpful to everyone.

But eh, I've said everything I had to say so I've got nothing more to add to this discussion. My full reasoning is on the previous page and I stand by it.

I'm sorry it makes you disappointed and disturbed. Our points of view on this issue and how to resolve it are clearly different and it will not change so you do you and I'll do me :D

SoraSakai 02-02-21 08:43

Okay well that’s great. I’m not going to be complicit in normalizing this.

Zsott 02-02-21 12:30

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Originally Posted by jackali (Post 8275305)
It's currently only available in select regions for testing.

Some people have managed to get their hands on the APK floating around the Internet.

I'm in those regions...interesting enough, playstore says , that it's not compatible with my phone, but with an older one -which I don't use- so I downloaded the apk of the latest version... and it works well on the phone, that is not compatible. Like what?

On that note, some thoughts:
I was reading patchnotes and apparently saving progress wasn't a thing 'till this year. I mean... why?

When I started to play, I tried to be positive, since Relic Run was a positive disappointment (generally i see no appeal in any temple run type of games)
So I fired it up and... microtransactions all over the place, the levels are just no.
I thought it would be something like GoL, but heavy on shooting and locations will be recognizable. (From TRA and/or TR1)
I played for a good 20 minutes, but it's just no. Not for me.
The only positive thing I can say, that some of the musics are enjoyable.

UroshUchiha 02-02-21 15:21

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Originally Posted by Zsott (Post 8276369)
I was reading patchnotes and apparently saving progress wasn't a thing 'till this year. I mean... why?


Saving progress was always a thing, it's just that with the latest update the save files are also transferred to the cloud on Google Play Games so you can play the game on multiple devices.
What they did ruin in my opinion in this latest update is that if you close the app mid level, all your progress in that level is lost and you can't continue from the stage you were on. While on the previous update you could continue at any point. But people abused that when they are low on health, just close the app, reopen it and get fully healed and continue mid point into the level. Could even avoid death using that.

Mikky 02-02-21 15:27

The grind on this game is just insane. The amount of times I had to replay stages to get coins and EXP just so I could complete the Caves chapter... That's chapter 2 for those who don't know. And after all of that, only to immediately get overpowered and bombarded by enemies on the very first stage on the City of Vilcabamba. Now what, it's back to completing the same chapter over and over again to gain EXP? There's just no balance here.

Don't get me wrong, I know what kind of game this was going in and I could be shouting at a wall here, but as I said before, I played Archero for a while in preparation for this and the difference between these games are very apparent. Yeah, the mechanics are virtually identical, but in Archero, it felt like you were actually making steady progress, fair progress, while still being somewhat challenging. After the first chapter in Reloaded, the game just goes from 10-100 and it is very off-putting.

I know this is still in early access and there's time to change and improve stuff, and I'm not sure if this is somehow deliberate to pad out an otherwise short early access "demo", but if not, they've got to get to work. I do get that they want to make money, but the developers also need to understand that this model is off-putting to players as it is, and they'll definitely alienate players further if they do not balance the progression system. I think I got to around chapter 5 in Archero before it became this hard but even then, I felt like I could have still continued on fairly fine without grinding too much. They should at least make chapter 1-3 playable without excessive grinding, to draw players in and give them a real taste of the gameplay. They can do what they like after that.

A few other minor improvements that I think could go a long way: increase Lara's base rate of fire. As in, the rate of fire you start of with. It's too slow as is. The aiming system is general is kind of wonky; sometimes I can't seem to aim at the enemy closest to me. I don't know how else to describe it, there's just something off. Also, the run cursor (virtual analog stick?) gets in the way too often. I don't know how they can improve it but that never seemed to be a problem in Archero.

I hope the devs are seeing the posts here anyway. I know this game is already notorious but I think they might as well improve whatever they can to make the game more welcoming/enjoyable on the full release.

charmedangelin 02-02-21 16:56

Honestly if it wasn't changed much after this big update, I'm not gonna hold my breath for the grinding to change much in the final version. They want you to spend money after all, they need people to buy the gems and the in game gear.

What we see is the barebones of the game, and if they ever ended support for it, the game would.be completely unplayable without purchasing gems and gear.

DVDSpike 02-02-21 18:29

I don’t think grinding is an issue. I think grinding can be fun. There just comes an issue when you purposely make the grinding boring and then offer paywalls to get past it.

I think a lot more effort needs to be put into this game in order to make the grinding fun, because this game was made with a “money first game second” mindset.

I think this project is salvageable, though.

Like I said to Ed on Twitter I’ll keep an open mind but the only thing I’m looking forward to so far is the music. But even then that makes me worried because of the live orchestra. They’re going to have to justify the costs of a live score somehow and unfortunately that probably means making the grinding more unappealing than it already is so you’ll spend more on the micro transactions.

SoraSakai 02-02-21 21:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikky (Post 8276423)
The grind on this game is just insane

I wonder why that would be.

Chamayoo 07-02-21 11:14

I managed to install the new version but I lost all my progression. RIP


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