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lcroft_lc 01-02-13 03:04

PLAYSTATION 4 - Discussion Thread
 

PlayStation 4 Release Date:

North America: 15 November
Europe: 29 November


PlayStation 4 Specs:
Single chip custom processor
8 Jaguar cores x86 CPU
1.84 Teraflops GPU (18CU)
  • Sony has ditched Cell. The PlayStation 4's main processor is a single-chip custom processor, a x86-64 AMD "Jaguar" with eight cores. A second chip is dedicated to managing uploads and downloads.
  • The GPU is a similarly impressive AMD next-gen Radeon-based graphics engine that can make 1.84 trillion calculations a second.
  • Brace yourself - the PS4 packs a borderline improbable 8GB of GDDR5 memory! If you're reading this in 2016, that's still really, really fast!
  • As well as a built-in hard drive (the size is yet to be confirmed), the PS4 also features a 6x speed Blu-Ray drive (compared to the PS3's 2x speed one), an 8x speed DVD drive and USB 3.0 for high-speed transfer.
Console Features:
  • Sony says the hardware has been designed with developers' needs in mind, a stark contrast to the early days of the PS3 and the claims that it was notoriously hard to develop for.
  • A new suspend mode lets you "switch off" the PS4 and store the game's current state in its memory. When you return to the system later and press the power button, the game will instantly carry on where it left off, with no need to boot the system and load the game.
  • The new PlayStation 4 menu screen will let you see what your friends are doing, while also recommending games, TV shows, movies and music to you. These recommendations will be specific ones unique to you, based on your previous downloads. For example, if you've spent a lot of time playing FIFA 14, it'll recommend the FIFA 15 demo when it's available.
  • Much like the Wii U, the PS4 can run multiple apps at once. While playing a game, you can load a web browser to check out walkthroughs or do some online reconnaissance.
  • PlayStation 4 games will be playable on Vita via Wi-Fi using Remote Play. It's not yet clear whether this applies to every single game or whether it's a game-by-game option that developers will need to activate, as is the case for PS3. All Sony has said so far is that "your favourite PS4 games" will feature Remote Play.
  • The PlayStation App is a new app that Sony will be releasing on iOS and Android devices, allowing you to use your smartphone or tablet as a second screen that acts as a map or lets you see how a friend is doing in that particular section of the game. It's a similar idea to Microsoft's SmartGlass and, of course, the Wii U GamePad.
  • It has been confirmed that the PS4 will NOT block pre-owned games.
Network Features:
  • Digital titles purchased from the PlayStation Store can be played as they download. The system will download the first part of the game so you can start playing it quickly, then continue to download the rest of the game's assets in the background as you play. This also implies there will no longer be a need to install games as with the PS3.
  • While Sony isn't completely blocking anonymous usernames, it does want to let people play online with their real names, integrating their gaming with social networks such as Facebook.
  • Gaikai technology will let you instantly try out sections of any game on the PlayStation Store. While the way in which this happens isn't yet clear, it's likely it will come in the form of timed streaming demos, much like the OnLive console offers.
  • You can broadcast a live stream of your gameplay via Ustream, so that other gamers can see your progress.
  • If you're stuck in a game you can ask your friends to help you. This can either come in the form of text comments that will appear on the screen like notifications, or they can actually take over the game's controls and beat a section of the game for you.
  • The PlayStation 4 can be updated while the console is switched off, potentially putting an end to the dreaded lengthy firmware updates that annoyed PS3 owners.
  • The system does NOT require an always-online connection.
DualShock 4 (Controller) Features:
  • The controller features a touch pad on the front, similar to the rear touch pad on the PlayStation Vita. This is a capacitive touch pad (much like that on a phone), supporting two touches at once. This may be useful for mouse-like in control in games such as Diablo III (though it hasn't yet been confirmed if it'll use that control method).
  • A new "SHARE" button lets you add screenshots and gameplay footage to your Facebook feed. It's not yet clear how long captured videos can last.
  • An LED Light Bar, similar to the LED ball on the PlayStation Move, sits along the top of the DualShock 4. Much like the Move, it can change colour for various needs (player indicators, damage indicators etc). It can also be used for Move-like controls (see the PlayStation 4 Eye section below).
  • The Start and Select buttons have been scrapped in favour of a single Options button.
  • The controller's built-in speaker will let you hear additional sounds much like the Wii U GamePad. Alternatively, there's also a headphone jack which lets you hear these sounds in greater detail as well as friends' voices during chat.
  • Speaking of chat, the PS4 will come with a mono headset provided.
  • There's a new built-in sensor inside the pad which Sony promises will enable "highly sensitive motion control". Presumably this means the Sixaxis motion control has been improved.
  • The controller's existing buttons - most notably the dual analogue sticks and L2 and R2 buttons - have been redesigned in accordance with developers' wishes (and presumably those of the vocal gaming community).
PlayStation 4 Eye (Screenshot):
  • The new PlayStation 4 Eye new camera, expected to be bundled with the system, appears to be Sony's answer to Kinect (which, in a sense, was Microsoft's response to the first EyeToy). It features two high-sensitivity 1280x800 cameras with wide-angle lenses and 85-degree diagonal angle views which, according to Sony, "can recognise the depth of space precisely".
  • Sony claims the camera can "cut out the image of the player from the background" or track their distance from the TV, allowing players to move their bodies to play. Players can also sign in with facial recognition.
  • The PlayStation 4 Eye also includes four microphones, allowing it to accurately detect sound and where it originated from.
  • Much like the previous Eye worked with the PlayStation Move, the new Eye tracks the LED Light Bar on the front of the DualShock 4 controller (like a more accurate Wii sensor bar), allowing for Move-style controls. With every PS4 owner potentially having Move-like controls instead of it being optional, this could have interesting connotations for upcoming games.
http://images.vg247.com/current//2013/02/ps4_specs.png

Source (PDF file, Sonys Press Release)



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Screenshots:

PlayStation 4 Videos:


PlayStation 4 Confirmed Games:

  • Killzone: Shadow Fall
  • InFamous: Second Son
  • Deep Down
  • Knack
  • DriveClub
  • Watch Dogs
  • Destiny
  • Final Fantasy (TBA)
  • The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt

PlayStation 4 Confirmed Games Trailers:


More coming soon.

Evan C. 01-02-13 03:05

OMG Can't wait!

ajrich17901 01-02-13 03:08

NO plans on buying either console this time around but I'm looking forward to seeing what Sony have up their sleeves.

robm_2007 01-02-13 03:10

Lol if that announcement isn't about the PS4.

Even if I had the money come launch, I wouldn't buy one. I would wait for all the recalled consoles to get out of the way. Every console (save for Nintendo) seems to burst into flames or red ring during the first sales.

lcroft_lc 01-02-13 03:15

PS4: PlayStation Meeting 2013 heralds big news from Sony
http://images.vg247.com/current//201...eting_2013.jpg

Quote:

“Just what will Sony announce at PlayStation Meeting 2013?” is a question almost nobody is asking, because we’re all getting short odds on the answer being “PlayStation 4″.

Sony has announced a big reveal coming 6:00PM PST on February 20. You can sign up for updates via a teaser page.

The last PlayStation Meeting was called to announce the Vita, so if this one’s not the next PlayStation console, it’s going to have to be something really spectacular.

Next-generation hardware announced from Sony and Microsoft are expected this year. Although Sony CEO Kazuo Hirai told press Microsoft could make the first move, sources said Sony wanted to beat Microsoft to the punch, something back up by independent rumours.

The firm has been struggling with financial issues and may need the boost of a new hardware announce to retain stockholder faith. Some sources have suggested the new consoles might ship before the holiday season this year, but bear in mind Sony announced the Vita almost a full year before its launch.

Sony released a teaser trailer to go with the announcement, which is full of abstract shapes. Feel free to speculate on what they might mean and express your disdain for the female sigh at the end.
http://www.vg247.com/2013/01/31/ps4-...ews-from-sony/

Spong 01-02-13 04:03

LOL @ the thread title. Jumping the gun a bit aren't you LC? It's all rumours and speculation. This thread's gonna be sooo funny if the announcement has nothing to do with it :vlol: Although it probably is the PS4

TRLegendLuver 01-02-13 04:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spong (Post 6630930)
LOL @ the thread title. Jumping the gun a bit aren't you LC? It's all rumours and speculation. This thread's gonna be sooo funny if the announcement has nothing to do with it :vlol:

I'm gonna laugh my ass off if it has nothing to do with the systems. :vlol:

Spong 01-02-13 04:20

Seems like The Wall Street Journal aren't afraid to nail their colours to the mast and confidently say it is the PS4...

Quote:

Sony Corp. is planning to unveil its next-generation home videogame console during a February event, showing off a successor to its current PlayStation 3 system.

The Japanese electronics giant Thursday unveiled plans for a special PlayStation-themed event set for Feb. 20, teasing fans to "see the future" at the event. People familiar with the matter have said the new device will make its debut there, beating Microsoft Corp. to the punch in announcing its own next-generation game machine.

Sony's device will be released later this year, these people said, and will spar against Microsoft's own machine, which is also expected ...

From The Wall Street Journal

Ceamonks890 01-02-13 04:20

Even if this does turn out to be the reveal of the PS4, I refuse to purchase one until the video game industry learns to get out of their obsessive compulsive cinematic experiences that they call video games and remember that they used to make games that are actually fun and interesting to play(Many of which are still entertaining today), and didn't require all that 'cinematic experience' nonsense for many to become instant classics. I mean come on, why do you all think so many gamers are going back to retro consoles/games?

Plain and simple: Because those generations were from a time where the video game industry thrived on innovation and creativity and not trying to focus on cinematic experiences or dull realism all the time.

lcroft_lc 01-02-13 04:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spong (Post 6630930)
LOL @ the thread title. Jumping the gun a bit aren't you LC? It's all rumours and speculation. This thread's gonna be sooo funny if the announcement has nothing to do with it :vlol: Although it probably is the PS4

The last time Sony made a PlayStation show was in 2011, and to announce Vita. Now its about FUTURE. What else could it show except PS4? ;)

Spong 01-02-13 04:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcroft_lc (Post 6630946)
What else could it show except PS4? ;)

I'm not saying it isn't that, but I wouldn't go making a thread with this title just yet :p

TRLegendLuver 01-02-13 04:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spong (Post 6630942)
Seems like The Wall Street Journal aren't afraid to nail their colours to the mast and confidently say it is the PS4...

And Wall Street has been so accurate in the last 5 years. :rolleyes:
They're assuming too.

Spong 01-02-13 04:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRLegendLuver (Post 6630950)
And Wall Street has been so accurate in the last 5 years. :rolleyes:
They're assuming too.

LOL, so they're not exactly at the cutting edge of knowing stuff? I wasn't aware of that :p

Megalith 01-02-13 05:49

http://www.abload.de/img/bildschirmfoto2013-02aykya.png

Shark_Blade 01-02-13 05:50

I wonder what medium will they use this time if it is PS4.

I mean blu ray still has A LOT of capacity that they have yet to utilize fully.
Maybe it is blu ray again but with superior processor?

Hmm..

RAID 01-02-13 05:51

:jmp:

Spong 01-02-13 06:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade (Post 6630984)
I wonder what medium will they use this time if it is PS4.

I mean blu ray still has A LOT of capacity that they have yet to utilize fully.
Maybe it is blu ray again but with superior processor?

Hmm..

Most likely it'll be Blu-ray again.

Shark_Blade 01-02-13 06:09

I think that might be too. Blu ray was more expensive when they first established it on ps3 back then. They had a hard time competing whereas 360 and wii were still using DVDs. A lot of costs went to that medium's production alone and it minimizes profit.

To introduce a new format now, with Sony's financial turmoil is just too much.

TRItheMaster 01-02-13 06:19

Oh what fresh hell is this...

Spong 01-02-13 06:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade (Post 6630993)
To introduce a new format now, with Sony's financial turmoil is just too much.

True.
It seems to make sense to me that they'd probably stick with Blu-ray. Like you said, they've not really utilised the storage to its fullest extent with the PS3. Even if the PS4 & next Xbox are packing loads more power, 50GB on a dual layer disc should still be more than enough for games, surely?

michaeldt 01-02-13 06:46

If this is the PS4, I can't say that I will buy it immediately, I've had my PS3 fat from 2009 and it's still going strong, I'm happy with it :) after its released, when they've worked out all of the kinks, maybe even a price drop, then I may consider it.

sackboy123 01-02-13 06:51

If the PS4 comes out does that mean there will cancel the Internet for the PS3 like there did for the PS2 :(

Gamd1011 01-02-13 06:53

If the price isn't ridiculous (Like the PS3 was at launch), I'll be switching to Sony. I miss my Playstation(s). :(

lcroft_lc 01-02-13 06:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spong (Post 6630949)
I'm not saying it isn't that, but I wouldn't go making a thread with this title just yet :p

I just wanted to make sure I do it first. :p

Anyway,
http://www.computerandvideogames.com...lease-in-2013/

Zelda master 01-02-13 06:55

Jeaj a new console (sarcasm)... Will see what they do, another PS3 and I will piss myself with laughter...

Spong 01-02-13 06:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcroft_lc (Post 6631013)

They're just regurgitating the Wall Street Journal story that I posted in this thread earlier.

jajay119 01-02-13 07:17

Not to mention there are areas of the world where digital only media would not be wholely possible yet.

Albert1285 01-02-13 08:01

Hehe I better save some money, just in case it turns to be true that it will come this year.

Hope I get a job too. I've been applying to lots of places. This year I will definitely need a lot of money, I'll buy tons of games, and most of them I won't bought them on Release Date, but still even 50% off is still a lot of money to spend on those games. I hope PS4 has Backwards Compatibility I'm WILLING to pay $100 - $200 dollars more if they make a different model that includes it.

Jami393 01-02-13 08:04

Isn't it a bit early to call this a PS4 thread, because we don't even know if it is the PS4 they're announcing on the 20th February. We just have to sit and wait at this moment in time. It's going to be a bit funny if they do finalise the name PlayStation 4, seeing that 4 is pronounced shi in Japanese which means death.

Zelda master 01-02-13 08:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jami393 (Post 6631036)
Isn't it a bit early to call this a PS4 thread, because we don't even know if it is the PS4 they're announcing on the 20th February. We just have to sit and wait at this moment in time.

I agree completely, maybe they'll rebrand the Vita into the Mors :)

TR FAN 18 01-02-13 08:09

If it's anything like the price of the PS3 at launch, I'm not interested. £425?!

mathew9r 01-02-13 08:18

One can dream... One can dream.

What else could it be? The future of Spyro? Crash Bandicoot?

Jami393 01-02-13 08:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by mathew9r (Post 6631039)
One can dream... One can dream.

What else could it be? The future of Spyro? Crash Bandicoot?

Couldn't be Crash because I don't think he is part of Naughty Dog, any more. Also Spyro isn't part of Insomniac.

Shark_Blade 01-02-13 08:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jami393 (Post 6631036)
It's going to be a bit funny if they do finalise the name PlayStation 4, seeing that 4 is pronounced shi in Japanese which means death.

Oh who cares about that?

The Wii sounded like someone taking a piss (wee) and they don't even change it.

Jami393 01-02-13 08:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade (Post 6631043)
Oh who cares about that?

The Wii sounded like someone taking a piss (wee) and they don't even change it.

Well I see your point with the Wii, but if there are a lot of superstitious people at Sony Japan working on the PlayStation, then numbers 4-9 are considered to be the unlucky numbers. Apparently in hospitals in Japan and probably other buildings they don't even have a fourth floor because of the number's meaning.

ajrich17901 01-02-13 09:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jami393 (Post 6631048)
Well I see your point with the Wii, but if there are a lot of superstitious people at Sony Japan working on the PlayStation, then numbers 4-9 are considered to be the unlucky numbers. Apparently in hospitals in Japan and probably other buildings they don't even have a fourth floor because of the number's meaning.

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Peep Show 01-02-13 10:13

YES YES YES YES

Sony is coming to slay your faves!

Zelda master 01-02-13 11:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajrich17901 (Post 6631051)
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Well apparently Japanese people do :p

jaywalker 01-02-13 11:32

*walks in, reads* ahh so will finally be able to say something in 19 days. thank god :)

Peep Show 01-02-13 11:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaywalker (Post 6631106)
*walks in, reads* ahh so will finally be able to say something in 19 days. thank god :)

What? :eek:


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