Tomb Raider The Angel of Darkness Restoration Project - Page 164

LateRaider · 11-12-22, 00:32

PMing Reborn would probably be faster. I won't be back home until tomorrow afternoon.

Edit -

Quote:

Originally Posted by eqagunn

I've been only using quicksaves so this is the only one I have. Too bad there are no autosaves to load from them.
Well, if there is no way to fix mine, I'll gladly take one of yours then.

Assuming Reborn hasn't gotten back to you, here are our testing saves.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...el_Saves_1.zip

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...el_Saves_2.zip

eqagunn · 12-12-22, 12:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by LateRaider

Assuming Reborn hasn't gotten back to you, here are our testing saves.

Hey! He did and it's fixed. Thank you though!

EDIT:
Played with an unaltered RP v1.2.1 EXE from Tomb of the Ancients onwards. Got "stuck" again. Vasiley Full Fax wasn't where it was supposed to be. It seems it didn't spawn. I have googled up the safe code and could continue though. Savegame: https://www112.zippyshare.com/v/nGsraqUo/file.html

EDIT2:
Got the first CTD so far. The messages given was:

Code:

GAME_ERROR_STRUCTURED_EXCEPTION_HANDLE
traod_p4.exe caused a EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION in module traod_p4.exe at 0023:00522A48, ActorMgr_EvalPath()+2840 byte(s), C:\projects\tomb raider\Game\ai\ai_actor.c, line 1984+6 byte(s)
0023:00522A48 traod_p4.exe, ActorMgr_EvalPath()+2840 byte(s), C:\projects\tomb raider\Game\ai\ai_actor.c, line 1984+6 byte(s)

Loaded up the savegame and continued without problems.

EDIT3:
Now my savegame got corrupted in The Sanitarium. Saved after using Farsee and unlocking the door. Results in CTD upon attempting to load it with the message:

Code:

Generic Game Error
ASSERTION: 'index>=0 && index < MAX_POINT_PER_PATH' at C:\projects\tomb raider\Game\ai\ai_nav.cpp(1696)

Savegame: https://www45.zippyshare.com/v/ctvr8QVf/file.html
The closest other savegame I had was the start of The Monstrous Crime Scene so I used Skip Level cheat to continue from The Sanitarium.

Accandon · 12-12-22, 23:34

Hi.

I am eager to translate the text to german, but the database file is really confusing. I assume that there is some kind of index for the text strings in the db, because the german text works most of the time. Do you have something like an editor?

Also, I would like to know if there is a way to contact ATombRaiderFan. Maybe he could mux german sound and subtitles into his videos.

In any case, thanks for the great work on the Restoration Project. It makes a lot more fun to play the game once again.

LateRaider · 13-12-22, 02:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by eqagunn

Played with an unaltered RP v1.2.1 EXE from Tomb of the Ancients onwards. Got "stuck" again. Vasiley Full Fax wasn't where it was supposed to be. It seems it didn't spawn.

On top of his printer, which is on the shelf below his TV? You need to duck to pick it up. If it wasn't there, something must have gone awry.

Quote:

Originally Posted by eqagunn

Got the first CTD so far. The messages given was:

Code:

GAME_ERROR_STRUCTURED_EXCEPTION_HANDLE
traod_p4.exe caused a EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION in module traod_p4.exe at 0023:00522A48, ActorMgr_EvalPath()+2840 byte(s), C:\projects\tomb raider\Game\ai\ai_actor.c, line 1984+6 byte(s)
0023:00522A48 traod_p4.exe, ActorMgr_EvalPath()+2840 byte(s), C:\projects\tomb raider\Game\ai\ai_actor.c, line 1984+6 byte(s)

Loaded up the savegame and continued without problems.

EDIT3:
Now my savegame got corrupted in The Sanitarium. Saved after using Farsee and unlocking the door. Results in CTD upon attempting to load it with the message:

Code:

Generic Game Error
ASSERTION: 'index>=0 && index < MAX_POINT_PER_PATH' at C:\projects\tomb raider\Game\ai\ai_nav.cpp(1696)

Savegame: https://www45.zippyshare.com/v/ctvr8QVf/file.html
The closest other savegame I had was the start of The Monstrous Crime Scene so I used Skip Level cheat to continue from The Sanitarium.

You've encountered an unusual amount of errors. Can you give us your system specs, please?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Accandon

Hi.

I am eager to translate the text to german, but the database file is really confusing. I assume that there is some kind of index for the text strings in the db, because the german text works most of the time. Do you have something like an editor?

Also, I would like to know if there is a way to contact ATombRaiderFan. Maybe he could mux german sound and subtitles into his videos.

In any case, thanks for the great work on the Restoration Project. It makes a lot more fun to play the game once again.

I have let Reborn know. I'm not sure when the non-English language projects will start, but yes, we're more or less still looking for English -> other language translators for the new text. There is a lot of it now, especially since we've revised the items. But I plan on making a spreadsheet of what exactly has changed.

One thing I should let you know, though, is that so much sound effect mixing is coming that I don't think we can offer nor guarantee compatibility with non-English voice acting. Not unless we find people wanting to splice together voice lines themselves out of existing lines. If you signing on as a translator means that you want the German voice acting as well, you also might need to find someone who will edit audio for you unless you want to take that on yourself.

eqagunn · 13-12-22, 07:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by LateRaider

On top of his printer, which is on the shelf below his TV? You need to duck to pick it up. If it wasn't there, something must have gone awry.

Alright. Other guides say it's supposed to be on the floor in front of the desk.
But it's under the TV instead. Didn't crouch while inspecting the TV and therefore missed it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LateRaider

You've encountered an unusual amount of errors. Can you give us your system specs, please?

Win 11 21H2 on Asus GL752VW (i7-6700HQ, 16 GB DDR4)

reborninshadow · 13-12-22, 14:09

Please read the FAQ in the second post of this thread if you get "stuck" in levels. Not talking about obvious glitches of course.

Anyways I removed that crash and the save works after that, who knows why they added that crash there since it seems to work fine so I'll remove it on the next release by default.

Will PM you the fixed save.

kelvinsecolo · 13-12-22, 17:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by KIKO

I can’t wait for this!! Very exciting news.
Hopefully one day there will be a way to import and somehow “merge” this with the game itself.

OMG! I'm so excited to finally play this!!!!!! I remember noticing that this Boulangerie building was not present in the version we saw in some pictures and gameplay videos. I was wondered if it was included in a later or earlier version.

Accandon · 13-12-22, 21:55

Um... I'm not familiar with mixing sounds and stuff like that. It might be too much effort, but we'll see.

eqagunn · 14-12-22, 01:14

Another savegame where Lara got frozen:
https://www57.zippyshare.com/v/ldckM8EO/file.html

Playthrough done. The first Tomb Raider game I properly played (played the original briefly back in the day but that doesn't count). From a keyboard-and-mouse-with-camera-relative-controls user point-of-view here are some subjective notes on how the game (i.e., the Restoration Project) should be by default:

- Feels like Notebook entries get written down on random pages making me search through it often wondering which one is the new one. New entries should instead be added to the last page.
- Climbable walls were very indistinguishable from the regular ones. Got used to it later on, but it would be nice if the texture was somehow more obvious.
- I play with WASD+Action, but I'm forced to use Arrows+Enter for menus, and Arrows+Action for conversations/numberpads/clock. Would be nice if these were interchangeable/interusable.
- Can't skip conversations. Idealy, Action key should skip to next person speaking and Escape key should skip it completely.
- Both mouse axis inverted state has been flipped from what it's supposed to be by default and now requires user to turn it on, to have it normal/non-inverted. Trivial, but feels wrong.
- Camera is too jumpy and keeps on repositioning as you move requiring you to constantly readjust which is annoying. Shouldn't be doing that ever.
- Along with the above-mentioned, camera locking in space (like it does at the green bin at the very start) should never be happening.
- Not being able to rotate the character in spot is the biggest annoyance. Character should always face where the camera is facing (except for Look mode).
- Returning to game from Alt-Tabbing very often results in pitch-black windowed screen (not frozen, just black) which requires me to kill the process and start up the game again (or Alt+F4>Up>Enter>Alt+F4>Up>Enter).
- Lara couldn't sprint in Aquatic Research Area level. At least not for me, and only in that one (from the levels after acquiring Sprint).
- Sprinting should be available from the very start instead of for the second half of the game only. It's quite strange and sad it isn't.
- Would be great if Lara would always say something for every interactable she can't use yet (e.g., "It won't open"). Currently she does it only for some.
- Numberpads are disegaged by jumping while cameras by Ctrl. It would make more sense if you could just walk away.
- It's unusual that ScrollUp and ScrollDown can't be bound, but Mouse4 and Mouse5 can. ScrollUp and ScrollDown should change weapons by default (or alternatively control the camera zoom level).
- An autosave at the beginning of every level would be most helpful for when things go wrong.
- Additional FMVs are too big and don't play in-game out-of-the-box (apparently require LAV filters installed).
- "Developer Interviews" points to MAKINGOF.MPG, while "Making of" points to MOVIE.MPG. Seems unintentional.
- Subtitle (and Alt+F4 prompt) font looks too plain. Even by making it thicker only would look better.
- Alt+F4 should terminate the game instantly. Currently, if playing, I need to do it twice and confirm twice (Alt+F4>Up>Enter>Alt+F4>Up>Enter).

This will be all from me! Good luck with the project!

LateRaider · 14-12-22, 05:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by eqagunn

Alright. Other guides say it's supposed to be on the floor in front of the desk.
But it's under the TV instead. Didn't crouch while inspecting the TV and therefore missed it.

yes we've moved around plenty of items in this, and in fact this was noted in the FAQ. i know it's an inconvenient solution but please be sure to check it out.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Accandon

Um... I'm not familiar with mixing sounds and stuff like that. It might be too much effort, but we'll see.

yeah no problem, for now we should focus on the text. i just wanted to let you know that we probably will only be supporting english voices. if you're ok with that, i welcome you to sign on.

Quote:

Originally Posted by eqagunn

Playthrough done. The first Tomb Raider game I properly played (played the original briefly back in the day but that doesn't count). From a keyboard-and-mouse-with-camera-relative-controls user point-of-view here are some subjective notes on how the game (i.e., the Restoration Project) should be by default:

1. Unable to fix for now. We agree, though.

2. Unsure if we can or should do anything about this; a lot of Tomb Raider fans take umbrage at any form of obvious climbable surface.

3. Agreed. Unsure if Reborn can do anything though.

4. You press Look to skip conversations and voice lines.

5. I don't think we'd be addressing this since it's a simple flip.

6. Noted, thank you.

7. Fixed camera angles are a tenet of Core Design Tomb Raiders. To remove them would be wrong.

8. Again, if that is a requirement for you, I would point you to Tank Control mode. The PS2 version's camera worked more or less like this to no complaint. I don't believe LAU had "Always Behind" cameras either.

9. Unable to fix. This is inconvenient for us as we test, however, so we agree.

10. Noted, thank you.

11. We're researching ways to make the upgrade system more natural, but it's potentially a radical change that could upset many so we haven't done much looking into it yet.

12. Agreed, and we'll see what we can do.

13. Unable to fix for now, but we agree.

14. That would be nice, but not able to do for the time being.

15. Agreed, and Reborn has expressed wanting to look into this.

16. Noted, and perhaps in the future we can bundle LAV Filters with them.

17. I'm not sure if anything will be done about this since it's somewhat under-the-hood, but noted.

18. Unlikely to change.

19. Agreed. I've been pushing Reborn to implement this into the game proper.

12-12-22, 23:34	#1633
Accandon Hobbyist Join Date: Nov 2021 Posts: 10	Hi. I am eager to translate the text to german, but the database file is really confusing. I assume that there is some kind of index for the text strings in the db, because the german text works most of the time. Do you have something like an editor? Also, I would like to know if there is a way to contact ATombRaiderFan. Maybe he could mux german sound and subtitles into his videos. In any case, thanks for the great work on the Restoration Project. It makes a lot more fun to play the game once again.

13-12-22, 14:09	#1636
reborninshadow Explorer Join Date: Jan 2021 Posts: 732	Please read the FAQ in the second post of this thread if you get "stuck" in levels. Not talking about obvious glitches of course. Anyways I removed that crash and the save works after that, who knows why they added that crash there since it seems to work fine so I'll remove it on the next release by default. Will PM you the fixed save.

13-12-22, 21:55	#1638
Accandon Hobbyist Join Date: Nov 2021 Posts: 10	Um... I'm not familiar with mixing sounds and stuff like that. It might be too much effort, but we'll see.

14-12-22, 01:14	#1639
eqagunn Hobbyist Join Date: Dec 2022 Posts: 8	Another savegame where Lara got frozen: https://www57.zippyshare.com/v/ldckM8EO/file.html Playthrough done. The first Tomb Raider game I properly played (played the original briefly back in the day but that doesn't count). From a keyboard-and-mouse-with-camera-relative-controls user point-of-view here are some subjective notes on how the game (i.e., the Restoration Project) should be by default: - Feels like Notebook entries get written down on random pages making me search through it often wondering which one is the new one. New entries should instead be added to the last page. - Climbable walls were very indistinguishable from the regular ones. Got used to it later on, but it would be nice if the texture was somehow more obvious. - I play with WASD+Action, but I'm forced to use Arrows+Enter for menus, and Arrows+Action for conversations/numberpads/clock. Would be nice if these were interchangeable/interusable. - Can't skip conversations. Idealy, Action key should skip to next person speaking and Escape key should skip it completely. - Both mouse axis inverted state has been flipped from what it's supposed to be by default and now requires user to turn it on, to have it normal/non-inverted. Trivial, but feels wrong. - Camera is too jumpy and keeps on repositioning as you move requiring you to constantly readjust which is annoying. Shouldn't be doing that ever. - Along with the above-mentioned, camera locking in space (like it does at the green bin at the very start) should never be happening. - Not being able to rotate the character in spot is the biggest annoyance. Character should always face where the camera is facing (except for Look mode). - Returning to game from Alt-Tabbing very often results in pitch-black windowed screen (not frozen, just black) which requires me to kill the process and start up the game again (or Alt+F4>Up>Enter>Alt+F4>Up>Enter). - Lara couldn't sprint in Aquatic Research Area level. At least not for me, and only in that one (from the levels after acquiring Sprint). - Sprinting should be available from the very start instead of for the second half of the game only. It's quite strange and sad it isn't. - Would be great if Lara would always say something for every interactable she can't use yet (e.g., "It won't open"). Currently she does it only for some. - Numberpads are disegaged by jumping while cameras by Ctrl. It would make more sense if you could just walk away. - It's unusual that ScrollUp and ScrollDown can't be bound, but Mouse4 and Mouse5 can. ScrollUp and ScrollDown should change weapons by default (or alternatively control the camera zoom level). - An autosave at the beginning of every level would be most helpful for when things go wrong. - Additional FMVs are too big and don't play in-game out-of-the-box (apparently require LAV filters installed). - "Developer Interviews" points to MAKINGOF.MPG, while "Making of" points to MOVIE.MPG. Seems unintentional. - Subtitle (and Alt+F4 prompt) font looks too plain. Even by making it thicker only would look better. - Alt+F4 should terminate the game instantly. Currently, if playing, I need to do it twice and confirm twice (Alt+F4>Up>Enter>Alt+F4>Up>Enter). This will be all from me! Good luck with the project!