FLEP custom patches: updates, testing and discussion (Round 2) - Page 13

Caesum · 07-02-23, 08:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lwmte

I already answered your question in my previous post

Lwmte, Titak is confused because ChocolateFan said something that can be understood as a direct negation of your statement.

By "Level Editor" ChocolateFan means a level editor, meanwhile Titak probably understood Level Editor as the Level Editor, known in the community as winroomedit/ngle.

Titak, the rainbow lighting bug only appears in Tomb Editor, therefore the fix only works with the levels made with Tomb Editor.

The rainbow lighting effect happens because Tomb Editor internally uses 32-bit colours for vertex lighting, but original Tomb Raider engine uses only 16-bit lighting, so the editor converts 32-bit lighting to 16-bit while compiling level. This conversion causes precision loss, which appears as a rainbow/oily lighting in the level.

This bug is not present in original winroomedit.exe and ngle.exe because they work with 16-bit lighting already, so there's no conversion/precision loss present.

Now what FLEP patch does is it makes it possible to use 32-bit lighting in Tomb Raider itself. When you apply it and enable 32-bit lighting option in Tomb Editor, there's no conversion happening, so there's no lighting bug.

Long story short, this patch fixes a very old Tomb Editor issue, but it doesn't in any way enhance lighting in winroomedit/ngle.

Ruu11 · 07-02-23, 10:56

Wait... The random colored lights thing is finally FIXED???????????
This is a moment in TRLE history omg

thank you so much Chocolate, you're a legend!!

Lwmte · 07-02-23, 15:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caesum

Long story short, this patch fixes a very old Tomb Editor issue, but it doesn't in any way enhance lighting in winroomedit/ngle.

Caesum, I have to disagree with you. Choco's patch does not fix any Tomb Editor issue, because there was no issue in the first place in Tomb Editor. The issue was in tomb4 engine, which only supported 16-bit lighting - it doesn't matter if level is compiled with winroomedit or TE.

For your information, for the last 2 years or so, TE already shows correct lighting output consistent with 16-bit depth of tomb4, if game version is set to it. Also I am afraid it wasn't addressed by Choco in her changes to TE, so current version of Tomb Editor still shows 16-bit lighting in 3D view, when you are working on a tomb4 target.

ChocolateFan · 07-02-23, 17:39

winroomedit.exe and ngle.exe also use 32-bit lighting internally:

Code:

byte lightR = reader.ReadByte();
byte lightG = reader.ReadByte();
byte lightB = reader.ReadByte();
byte lightOn = reader.ReadByte();

Link to the code: https://github.com/MontyTRC89/Tomb-E...Loader.cs#L534.

Caesum · 07-02-23, 18:12

Ah okay so winroomedit just handles 32-bit to 16-bit lighting thing better. Either way the patch is only for TE since it has an option to compile levels with 32-bit lighting instead of hammering it down to 16-bit, right? If yes then my point still stands.

Verner Fon Cro · 21-02-23, 17:24

Hi, I was fiddling with the new blending modes and noticed something:
if I use the new blending mode n°5 (source inversion mode), the maximum black I can get is the same black as Lara's shadow

which is cool enough, but when I try to use it with the footprints gives me dull results, because the black isn't dark enough.

Even using custom blend modes, there's no way to ged a darker black, no matter what.

I also noticed that when two footprints overlap, they add their colors on top of each other.

My question is: is it possible to change the new blending modes patch adding a new blending with darker shadows? (i.e. adding two source inversions or multiplying one?)

ChocolateFan · 21-02-23, 19:43

Latest version: first post.

Fixed patches:

Fast alignment

New patches:

Fix dying flare colours
Rotate debris
Pushable Object alignment
Wibble rooms
tomb4 circle shadow

New commands:

Lift doors

Verner Fon Cro · 23-02-23, 08:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChocolateFan

Latest version: first post.

Fixed patches:

Fast alignment

New patches:

Fix dying flare colours
Rotate debris
Pushable Object alignment
Wibble rooms
tomb4 circle shadow

New commands:

Lift doors

THIS IS INCREDIBLE!! Thank you Chocolatefan, you're an angel

PedroTheGamer · 23-02-23, 16:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChocolateFan

Latest version: first post.

Fixed patches:

Fast alignment

New patches:

Fix dying flare colours
Rotate debris
Pushable Object alignment
Wibble rooms
tomb4 circle shadow

New commands:

Lift doors

thank you so much about the pushblock,Fast alignment and crazy flare dying..lift Doors yaay i was making a VCI this is all i needed

Delca · 02-03-23, 13:27

Thank you for all the great patches.

A suggestion~ would it be possible to port tomb4's Gameover menu to trng?

07-02-23, 17:39	#124
ChocolateFan Explorer Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: I am female Posts: 504	winroomedit.exe and ngle.exe also use 32-bit lighting internally: Code: byte lightR = reader.ReadByte(); byte lightG = reader.ReadByte(); byte lightB = reader.ReadByte(); byte lightOn = reader.ReadByte(); Link to the code: https://github.com/MontyTRC89/Tomb-E...Loader.cs#L534.

07-02-23, 18:12	#125
Caesum Tomb Raider Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Poland, Warsaw Gender: Male Posts: 12,046	Ah okay so winroomedit just handles 32-bit to 16-bit lighting thing better. Either way the patch is only for TE since it has an option to compile levels with 32-bit lighting instead of hammering it down to 16-bit, right? If yes then my point still stands. Last edited by Caesum; 07-02-23 at 18:14.

21-02-23, 19:43	#127
ChocolateFan Explorer Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: I am female Posts: 504	Latest version: first post. Fixed patches: Fast alignment New patches: Fix dying flare colours Rotate debris Pushable Object alignment Wibble rooms tomb4 circle shadow New commands: Lift doors

02-03-23, 13:27	#130
Delca Historian Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: France Posts: 298	Thank you for all the great patches. A suggestion~ would it be possible to port tomb4's Gameover menu to trng? __________________ Slightly confused

07-02-23, 10:56	#122
Ruu11 Archaeologist Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Spain Posts: 1,051	Wait... The random colored lights thing is finally FIXED??????????? This is a moment in TRLE history omg thank you so much Chocolate, you're a legend!!

21-02-23, 17:24	#126
Verner Fon Cro Hobbyist Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 22	Hi, I was fiddling with the new blending modes and noticed something: if I use the new blending mode n°5 (source inversion mode), the maximum black I can get is the same black as Lara's shadow which is cool enough, but when I try to use it with the footprints gives me dull results, because the black isn't dark enough. Even using custom blend modes, there's no way to ged a darker black, no matter what. I also noticed that when two footprints overlap, they add their colors on top of each other. My question is: is it possible to change the new blending modes patch adding a new blending with darker shadows? (i.e. adding two source inversions or multiplying one?)