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Old 18-03-23, 00:42   #981
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That's a change to Lara's personality, but again, how is that political?
Because according to Wokeism all forms of imperialism, colonialism, and tomb robbery are forms of "whiteness", and "whiteness" must be punished with perpetual guilt. And that's Survivor Lara's pitiful character arc.

Had it ended with TR2013, it would've been better.

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You missed the most important one: "Tomb protector".
Lol I try to repress that ending cutscene where she gives that speech from my memory.
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Old 18-03-23, 00:47   #982
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Because according to Wokeism all forms of imperialism, colonialism, and tomb robbery are forms of "whiteness", and "whiteness" must be punished with perpetual guilt. And that's Survivor Lara's pitiful character arc.
I want to say an interesting thing, even the already woken trilogy is still criticized by many non-English players for "colonialism", "robbery", "arrogance" and "justification of aggression".
There's no point trying to please someone.
One more thing, they think Lara in the Survivor Trilogy is very hypocritical, just saying beautiful things, but actually doing dirty things.

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Old 18-03-23, 01:51   #983
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Because according to Wokeism all forms of imperialism, colonialism, and tomb robbery are forms of "whiteness", and "whiteness" must be punished with perpetual guilt. And that's Survivor Lara's pitiful character arc.
Well that's... a take. Look, I've made my criticisms of the reboot trilogy known- I think they're too serious and Lara really doesn't feel or look like the Lara from the classic or even LAU series. But I think you're reading WAY too much into things, especially with the "whiteness" thing, which is really stretching it and trying to shoehorn real world culture war stuff into a mostly apolitical series. There wasn't any moment when playing the reboot trilogy that I groaned and thought "They're just trying to push an agenda", which I would argue is the difference between a well-written story and a poorly-written one.

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Old 18-03-23, 04:33   #984
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I want to say an interesting thing, even the already woken trilogy is still criticized by many non-English players for "colonialism", "robbery", "arrogance" and "justification of aggression".
There's no point trying to please someone.
One more thing, they think Lara in the Survivor Trilogy is very hypocritical, just saying beautiful things, but actually doing dirty things.
It's worth reading some of Mokono's posts in this thread, or other threads such as here, because it's quite similar to what you're pointing out.

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Well that's... a take. Look, I've made my criticisms of the reboot trilogy known- I think they're too serious and Lara really doesn't feel or look like the Lara from the classic or even LAU series. But I think you're reading WAY too much into things, especially with the "whiteness" thing, which is really stretching it and trying to shoehorn real world culture war stuff into a mostly apolitical series. There wasn't any moment when playing the reboot trilogy that I groaned and thought "They're just trying to push an agenda", which I would argue is the difference between a well-written story and a poorly-written one.
That's part of the charm of this thread though.
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Old 18-03-23, 06:20   #985
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It's worth reading some of Mokono's posts in this thread, or other threads such as here, because it's quite similar to what you're pointing out.



That's part of the charm of this thread though.
I've seen these of course, so I think everything the official guys do is lame
The TR series itself is a game with a colonial color, no matter how you "fixed" it, this cannot be changed.
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Well that's... a take. Look, I've made my criticisms of the reboot trilogy known- I think they're too serious and Lara really doesn't feel or look like the Lara from the classic or even LAU series. But I think you're reading WAY too much into things, especially with the "whiteness" thing, which is really stretching it and trying to shoehorn real world culture war stuff into a mostly apolitical series. There wasn't any moment when playing the reboot trilogy that I groaned and thought "They're just trying to push an agenda", which I would argue is the difference between a well-written story and a poorly-written one.
Looking at the essence through the phenomenon, now the official personnel are mainly liberal, even if they have no intention of exporting their positions and ideas, they will more or less reflect this in their works.
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Old 18-03-23, 07:56   #987
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Because it's suddenly an issue isn't it? If the developers make it an issue, that means they are taking a stance on it. And people that don't like that complain.

Also, some people disagree with the exact opinion that you have about humanizing Lara, to a point where a humanized Lara isn't Lara to them.
Suddenly? Not really, its always been an issue...but never made it more mainstream.

Well of course Developers take a stance on it...its what creators do.
They take a stance on issues and put it into their content, that is not new.

I mean we are literally sitting here in a Forum about a character that was created by people who took a stance on the topic of Females in Gaming.
They literally admitted that they created Lara to tackle the problem in gaming.

If this is the kind of stuff that pisses people off, then they are here in the absolutely wrong community because Lara herself is Creators taking a stance on a political and social issue.

Of course people disagree, that some just want nothing more than a Power Fantasy from Lara Croft...is no secret nor is that a problem for me.
But i want more from the character and her World, want it to expand and be used to its full potential.
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Old 18-03-23, 08:02   #988
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Except Lara is rich. A rich woman who loves guns, killing endangered animals, and stealing from brown people. Sounds alot like a "right wing idiot" to me. But keep trying to convince yourself she'd totally hang out with you if she was real and go to rallys to protest pronouns. Lara has better things to do.

You want to know what woke is? It's destroying things people love for fun to make yourself feel important. There's literally people on the casting call thread suggesting a man in women's clothes play Lara in the next movie. You people are the definition of woke and your nonstop aggression against anything normal is tiresome.
I don't think Lara is a progressive nor a conservative, she sees all political debate in the world as noise.
she just be herself.
Of course, Reboot Lara should be liberal, I'm pretty sure.

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Word of the day; "Woke".

So, who would like the sharks to return as an enemy in Tomb Raider levels?
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Word of the day; "Woke".

So, who would like the sharks to return as an enemy in Tomb Raider levels?
I don't know what the connection between woke and shark is.
If the harpoon gun is useful, I will support it!
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