20-03-21, 23:33 | #11 | ||
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There is a blatant structural racist element here when the statistics of people being murdered and harassed by U.S police are mostly back people. And in fact there is a structural racist element when you look at the poverty in black and Asian communities in the U.S - which drives the robberies, murders and all things in between you are now choosing to weaponize for your argument, and this structural racism was brought to the US by white people the day they decided to seal Native American land as 'settlers'. And another thing... nobody is saying it is resolutely white people doing it to black people, and nobody is saying all white people are bad. Most people of colour, who are definitely of the left, hold intersectionality with great importance and are only happy to bring up the question of internalised racism within ethnic minorities. There has been lots of work on that done particularly in the Arab world where the brutal racism against South Asians is ripe. It is clear you are delving into this subject with shallow motives. The hard left can be fascistic in their own way, but you are currently not proving you are any better. Quote:
I can't imagine how terrifying it must have been, and how petrified the families of the victims are. Last edited by Bashar; 20-03-21 at 23:42. |
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20-03-21, 23:58 | #12 |
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Not sure why there isn’t an argument going around that it could possibly because sex and race related.
Asian women are fetishized by right wing extremists for being subservient and quiet while also being attractive and desirable. |
21-03-21, 06:04 | #13 | |
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Being mad that you can't have sex with Asian women and killing 6 of them is racism. But also, trying to brush that off is utterly disrespectful. 6 Asian women died in something that was most definitely a racially charged event (which you even admit because you must think it's about race a little if you say "more than race"), and the first thing you try and do is come and brush it off and say, "well black on Asian crime happens too". ??? Last edited by DVDSpike; 21-03-21 at 06:06. |
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21-03-21, 07:12 | #14 | |
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First, remember Dylan Roof, and the mosque shooter in New Zealand? They were racist killers, and admitted it right away. They were proud of it. This guy is NOT saying anything like that. He says he is a sex freak. (not in so many words, but...) Probably has plenty of other things wrong with him too, from the look of him. Second, I suspect this guy frequented Asian spas because he was somewhat afraid of women. Doesn't want the brash blonde hooker who is naked under her raincoat at the corner, he wants a safer environment with meeker women. So, Asians, in spas. This has nothing to do with racism, unless you want to tie in what was said above, about some right-wing white males wanting submissive women. I regard that as a separate subject. Anyway, it's too late now, "they" have decided this is a racist incident. The ritual sacrificing has already begun, an educator out west has already been nailed for her "racist anti-asian" tweets. Plus, "organized" protests are breaking out. It's too bad those women got killed. But prostitution is a dangerous profession. Just ask the victims of Jack the Ripper. Probably a prostitute is being killed right now somewhere in the world as I type this. The worst part is women forced into it, in those "spas". In my state they tried to clean up that sort of thing but it's awfully hard to stamp out. |
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21-03-21, 07:12 | #15 |
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Conversely though, downplaying how much sex workers get targeted in violent crimes by only talking about the racism aspect is also pretty disrespectful.
It's a complex situation. |
21-03-21, 13:51 | #16 | |
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I agree with that, it's both, but talking about the dangers of sex work does not negate that specifically Asian women were targeted in this attack.
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I do think there's a point in saying that interracial crime often gets very sensationalised beyond a degree that is reasonable, and granted sometimes it's an interracial crime where race actually wasn't a motive and it's made out to be (by literally all groups regardless of political affiliation, because most racial groups are very tribal and don't like seeing their own get attacked by outsiders). That's fair, but in this case, it's still clearly and objectively an attack where race was a factor and we don't get to dismiss that just because it's awkward and uncomfortable. Last edited by Yeauxleaux; 21-03-21 at 14:10. |
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21-03-21, 22:49 | #17 |
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Well, the FBI is saying they have no evidence of a hate crime in the case, so reason prevails.
I hope this guy enjoys what is going to happen to him in prison. |
21-03-21, 22:53 | #18 |
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Yeah because the FBI is always reliable
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22-03-21, 03:33 | #19 |
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You want everything to be racist.
Did your momma ever read you Dr. Suess books when you were little? Congratulations, you are a pre-conditioned racist. Last edited by Sir Launcelot; 22-03-21 at 03:34. |
22-03-21, 13:56 | #20 | |
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So removing the "temptation" was key, but I also think that he fixated on women of another race is not incidental. White supremacy has always taught that minorities are inherently over-sexed and promiscuous, therefore they presented a temptation deliberately. |
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