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Old 19-12-18, 17:23   #1
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Default What are the classic elements you do NOT want to see back for future games?

Pretty straight forward title eh?

I thought it'd be a nice change of pace from the usual "things we want" threads. So what are the classic features and elements you would prefer stayed in the past??

Mine are:

- Oversexualization of Lara
- Parent drama (I can't believe we actually consider this a classic issue, the franchise has had this longer than it didn't)
- The backpack. I think Lara looks perfectly fine without it, and a tiny backpack is not exactly fashionable these days.
- Lack of narrative focus
- Levels. I love the HUB system we have, I just think it needs to reach it's full potential, and stuff like platforming and exploration within them need to done in a more challenging way again.
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Old 19-12-18, 17:37   #2
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- Oversexualization of Lara
Do you mean overexaggeration? I mean, I think I get what you mean, but I wouldn’t say classic Lara, or even LAU Lara, was oversexualized. Her appearance was really exaggerated though.

Anyway, I agree with your list. In addition to that, I’d also say:

-Tank controls and grid system
-Characters with next-to-no depth
-Poor, hammy voice acting (this was more of an issue with other side characters)
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Old 19-12-18, 17:46   #3
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Well, I'd go with:
  • "Having to constantly be grabbing a button" style of manual grab: I want manual grab back, but working in a similar way as the climbing axes already do;
  • Really slow movement;
  • The Grid System: other 3D platformers, even from 1996 (looking at SM64) show that you don't need a grid-based system to have consistent platforming;
  • "Just shoot and flip around" combat: as basic as TReboot combat is, at least there is more of a strategy going on;
  • Save Crystals: they suck. Give me the PC "save anywhere you want" system any day of the week.

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Do you mean overexaggeration? I mean, I think I get what you mean, but I wouldn’t say classic Lara, or even LAU Lara, was oversexualized. Her appearance was really exaggerated though
In-game classic Lara was an exaggerated character in an exaggerated world. She was more than fine there. Marketing Lara, on the other hand...
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Old 19-12-18, 18:02   #4
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-Grid, plenty of non-grid third person platformers exist.
-Unfair instant kill traps.
-Too much ammo like in TR1/2.
-Not developed/abandoned side characters. (Though IMO the Reboot does this the worst, Sam anyone?)
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-Grid, plenty of non-grid third person platformers exist.
-Unfair instant kill traps.
-Too much ammo like in TR1/2.
-Not developed/abandoned side characters. (Though IMO the Reboot does this the worst, Sam anyone?)
I agree with this list. Plus Sam was useless. I really hope they don't bring back her old friends in the future. If they do, they should have small roles and never appear again. I want them to move on and introduce well thought out an memorable characters.
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-Clunky slow control system
-Infinite Ammo
-Troll deaths
-LAU Bikinis or Japan Dresses
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Old 19-12-18, 19:33   #7
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- Slow shimmying and block-pushing
- Holding a button to hang off of ledges (If this must be brought back, make it a toggle)
- Infinite ammo
- Long stretches of dead silence (Looking at you, TRI...)
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Old 19-12-18, 20:16   #8
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Overly aggressive, cantankerous Lara.
Auto aim.
Tank controls (not that I need to worry about that)

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Do you mean overexaggeration? I mean, I think I get what you mean, but I wouldnt say classic Lara, or even LAU Lara, was oversexualized.
Let's not forget that oversexualized is a subjective judgement. What is oversexualized to Anita Sarkeesian probably isn't to Hideo Kojima.
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Let's not forget that oversexualized is a subjective judgement. What is oversexualized to Anita Sarkeesian probably isn't to Hideo Kojima.
True, true. Oversexualized sometimes has negative connotations, so I guess that’s why it was odd to me at first.
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Overly aggressive, cantankerous Lara.
Auto aim.
Tank controls (not that I need to worry about that)



Let's not forget that oversexualized is a subjective judgement. What is oversexualized to Anita Sarkeesian probably isn't to Hideo Kojima.
Well yeah, we got to see Raiden Nude and a constantly shirtless vampire.

I think Infinite ammo would be a necessity if we're going to have supernatural enemies, Lara can't exactly kick a flying atlantean in the face or punch a T-rex, there could be ways around it though. (The king Kong game had infinite spear piles)
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