Tomb Raider The Legend of Lara Croft - Page 272

**Rai** · 21-10-24, 08:19

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I'm on a rewatch because I apparently was so absorbed watching before, I missed a few details.

Vaskito · 21-10-24, 08:51

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I'm on a rewatch because I apparently was so absorbed watching before, I missed a few details.

Same as me! Rewatched episode 3 yesterday

griffabee · 21-10-24, 09:03

Considering myself it might be worth a rewatch, to pick up what I missed out on before.

Nothing else is calling to me on Netflix, and might aswell try to get a little more use out of it before it expires again.

Pietras · 21-10-24, 13:50

Roth's death trauma would've been a very good topic. For Rise. Not a decade later after it happened and after 2 games of another (daddy) trauma. Too late and too exhausting at this point

Bashar · 21-10-24, 14:26

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Originally Posted by Pietras

Roth's death trauma would've been a very good topic. For Rise. Not a decade later after it happened and after 2 games of another (daddy) trauma. Too late and too exhausting at this point

Precisely how I feel, hence why I am very uninterested in this anime.

Though I want them to get this story out of the way here so that the next game has nothing to do with any form of, or any remote relation to ANYONES MOMMY AND DADDY OR SAD MEMORIES thx

griffabee · 21-10-24, 14:29

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Originally Posted by Bashar

Precisely how I feel, hence why I am very uninterested in this anime.

Though I want them to get this story out of the way here so that the next game has nothing to do with any form of, or any remote relation to ANYONES MOMMY AND DADDY OR SAD MEMORIES thx

It is time they told a new story

Pietras · 21-10-24, 15:17

Now that I think more about it, it just irritates me even more that they didn't go with the obvious Roth trauma for the sequels instead of daddy issues. Like... it was writing itself basically... Lara feels guilty and has a few playable flashback levels (including opening level) in Rise depicting earlier archeo adventures with Roth. Combined with the time we already spent with him in TReboot, it would just feel natural and the players would feel connected to both of these characters and their relationship. And understand easily Lara's trauma.

It's writing 101 - ppl care about characters that they spend time with on-screen. That's why the daddy angle never work and never could work, we don't care about Richard or Amelia. With Roth being quintessential in TReboot and getting even more screen time in Rise flashbacks, it would simply work even if the writing of dialogues itself wasn't oscar-worthy. Just like it did with Von Croy. A perfect callback and reimagining of the same general idea.

griffabee · 21-10-24, 15:23

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Originally Posted by Pietras

Now that I think more about it, it just irritates me even more that they didn't go with the obvious Roth trauma for the sequels instead of daddy issues.

I didn't care much for the Amelia storyline of Legend.

The childhood flashback and Manor DLC for Shadow made Richard Croft dead interesting to me for a short while, though. It felt especially in the DLC that Lara was making her peace with her dad once and for all, and I hate we didn't get DLC8.

Pietras · 21-10-24, 15:35

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I didn't care much for the Amelia storyline of Legend.

The childhood flashback and Manor DLC for Shadow made Richard Croft dead interesting to me for a short while, though. It felt especially in the DLC that Lara was making her peace with her dad once and for all, and I hate we didn't get DLC8.

It helped a bit, but overall in the grand story scheme it was still too little too late. Had they went with Roth trauma angle instead, the connection for Lara AND the players would've been already established in a very effective way in TReboot. Same reason why by the time of AOD we cared about Von Croy's murder, he and Lara developed their own relationship on-screen in TLR. Neiher dad or mom did and tiny flashbacks can't compare to the involvement Von Croy and Roth had in TLR and TReboot respectively, and the establishing role they played in Lara's formative moments that we get to witness on screen for hours of playtime

griffabee · 21-10-24, 15:38

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Neither dad or mom did and tiny flashbacks can't compare to the involvement Von Croy and Roth had in TLR and TReboot respectively, and the establishing role they played in Lara's formative moments that we get to witness on screen for hours of playtime

A proper formative connection wasn't present for her mother or father, 100%.

21-10-24, 08:19	#2711
Rai Moderator Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 36,979	Tremolo, spoiler tags, if you're trying to use them are [Spoiler] [/ Spoiler] without the space. Otherwise it's still readable. Example. you can't see this without clicking on Show Spoiler I'm on a rewatch because I apparently was so absorbed watching before, I missed a few details. Last edited by Rai; 21-10-24 at 08:23.

21-10-24, 09:03	#2713
griffabee Member Joined: Jul 2020 Posts: 1,735	Considering myself it might be worth a rewatch, to pick up what I missed out on before. Nothing else is calling to me on Netflix, and might aswell try to get a little more use out of it before it expires again.

21-10-24, 13:50	#2714
Pietras Member Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 8,639	Roth's death trauma would've been a very good topic. For Rise. Not a decade later after it happened and after 2 games of another (daddy) trauma. Too late and too exhausting at this point

21-10-24, 15:17	#2717
Pietras Member Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 8,639	Now that I think more about it, it just irritates me even more that they didn't go with the obvious Roth trauma for the sequels instead of daddy issues. Like... it was writing itself basically... Lara feels guilty and has a few playable flashback levels (including opening level) in Rise depicting earlier archeo adventures with Roth. Combined with the time we already spent with him in TReboot, it would just feel natural and the players would feel connected to both of these characters and their relationship. And understand easily Lara's trauma. It's writing 101 - ppl care about characters that they spend time with on-screen. That's why the daddy angle never work and never could work, we don't care about Richard or Amelia. With Roth being quintessential in TReboot and getting even more screen time in Rise flashbacks, it would simply work even if the writing of dialogues itself wasn't oscar-worthy. Just like it did with Von Croy. A perfect callback and reimagining of the same general idea.